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2008-06-27 8:49 AM in reply to: #1493639 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark alltom1 - 2008-06-26 10:33 PM It's tough to say sometimes..Neil Young/Bobby Dylan/Elvis Costello all have pretty bland stretches - Anyone remember ReAcTOr and Trans? - followed by years of incredible creativity. I think it's true that 'classic' acts have a much harder time getting people to listen to their newer stuff..Folks just want the nostalgia trip. My best idea for the list would be Elvis P. Two great years followed by, well, it was generally pretty bad.. Yeah, stuff like "Suspicious Minds", "Burning Love", "In The Ghetto", etc. was all cr*p. I would argue that Fat Elvis was even better than skinny Elvis because he wasn't just ripping off what many black artists had been doing before him. He was actually fusing Gospel and Rock 'n' Roll and his Vegas days were spectacular (when he wasn't all doped up.) |
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2008-06-27 8:54 AM in reply to: #1494003 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark scoobysdad - 2008-06-27 8:49 AM alltom1 - 2008-06-26 10:33 PM It's tough to say sometimes..Neil Young/Bobby Dylan/Elvis Costello all have pretty bland stretches - Anyone remember ReAcTOr and Trans? - followed by years of incredible creativity. I think it's true that 'classic' acts have a much harder time getting people to listen to their newer stuff..Folks just want the nostalgia trip. My best idea for the list would be Elvis P. Two great years followed by, well, it was generally pretty bad.. Yeah, stuff like "Suspicious Minds", "Burning Love", "In The Ghetto", etc. was all cr*p. I would argue that Fat Elvis was even better than skinny Elvis because he wasn't just ripping off what many black artists had been doing before him. He was actually fusing Gospel and Rock 'n' Roll and his Vegas days were spectacular (when he wasn't all doped up.) Yeah, google "68 comeback special" as a starting point. |
2008-06-27 10:03 AM in reply to: #1491510 |
Expert 828 | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark I can't believe I am actually putting this one on here as I am a HUGE fan....John (Cougar) Mellancamp....His original stuff in the 80's was great stuff....I need a Lover, Jack and Diane, Smalltown, Ain't Even Done with the Night, Hurt So Good...etc....then somewhere along the way he lost the songs about rock 'n roll and sex and came out with (good music) but all political songs...Peaceful World, Rain on the Scarecrow, American Dream.....I saw him in concert in '89 and it was an awesome 2 hour show....saw him again a couple of years ago and there was too much politics in the music and when he talked....my sister saw him a couple years back in Indy and during his political rambling a couple people told him to "shut up and sing".... ...and I'll agree on U2....I have never been on board with the music, and then Bono doing his thing...good intentions but it is too much at some point..... |
2008-06-27 11:09 AM in reply to: #1494024 |
Master 2485 Atlanta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark the bear - 2008-06-27 9:54 AM scoobysdad - 2008-06-27 8:49 AM alltom1 - 2008-06-26 10:33 PM It's tough to say sometimes..Neil Young/Bobby Dylan/Elvis Costello all have pretty bland stretches - Anyone remember ReAcTOr and Trans? - followed by years of incredible creativity. I think it's true that 'classic' acts have a much harder time getting people to listen to their newer stuff..Folks just want the nostalgia trip. My best idea for the list would be Elvis P. Two great years followed by, well, it was generally pretty bad.. Yeah, stuff like "Suspicious Minds", "Burning Love", "In The Ghetto", etc. was all cr*p. I would argue that Fat Elvis was even better than skinny Elvis because he wasn't just ripping off what many black artists had been doing before him. He was actually fusing Gospel and Rock 'n' Roll and his Vegas days were spectacular (when he wasn't all doped up.) Yeah, google "68 comeback special" as a starting point. Seen it several times - The parts where the band is on stage in the middle of the audience was pretty great. When he was so inclined, he brought it. Trouble is, he wasn't usually inclined. I do have a couple of 'Memphis Sessions' cds lying around that strongly hint at what he could have been doing with his time, in which case he would not have been my nominee. Best ever movie review: NYT in the mid 60's on one of Elvis' flicks - Just one line: 'Not up to his usual standard.' |
2008-06-29 9:01 PM in reply to: #1491510 |
Regular 206 | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark Reading through this I guess I'm the only metalhead. For me I would say Metalica. In their early years they did interviews saying any band doing videos was selling out to the corporations and MTv. Along comes "And justice for all" and they do a video. Ok, acceptable since One was a cool song based on a cool movie, based on a cool novel. The "Black Album" they released what, ten videos, produced by the same guy that did Def Leppard's videos? Then they have an absolutely terrible double live album, followed by a couple more lousy albums accompanied with whining about how the evil "pirates" are costing them so much money. Bah, I saw them live five or six times. Never again. |
2008-06-29 9:07 PM in reply to: #1491510 |
Veteran 405 Memphis, TN | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark Pearl Jam. Ten was a great album, vs. was o.k. and then complete crap since. Things went downhill when Eddie Veder started hanging out with Neil Young. |
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2008-06-29 9:09 PM in reply to: #1491510 |
Davenport, IA | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark Another band I hate to put on the list: The Beastie Boys. Loved the earlier stuff...new stuff way to political for me. Seems like a band that kinda lost it a bit. |
2008-06-29 9:23 PM in reply to: #1497861 |
Master 1821 | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark Wolfhound668 - 2008-06-29 10:01 PM Reading through this I guess I'm the only metalhead. For me I would say Metalica. In their early years they did interviews saying any band doing videos was selling out to the corporations and MTv. Along comes "And justice for all" and they do a video. Ok, acceptable since One was a cool song based on a cool movie, based on a cool novel. The "Black Album" they released what, ten videos, produced by the same guy that did Def Leppard's videos? Then they have an absolutely terrible double live album, followed by a couple more lousy albums accompanied with whining about how the evil "pirates" are costing them so much money. Bah, I saw them live five or six times. Never again. indeed. lars ulrich is a whiny little troll. i tried watching their documentary "some kind of monster" a couple years ago and had to turn it off b/c lars was so detestable. i read that chris cornell is collaborating with timbaland. no, thankyou. aerosmith when they did the cryin/crazy/amazin videos with alicia silverstone. garth brooks when he did that chris gaines album. GNR when they did an $4M video, or when axl had a new album coming out for a decade and then showed up a tired, old man on the mtv music awards with a guy with a bucket on his head. |
2008-06-29 9:23 PM in reply to: #1497872 |
Elite 2443 Athens, Georgia | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark jccbulldog - 2008-06-29 10:07 PM Pearl Jam. Ten was a great album, vs. was o.k. and then complete crap since. Things went downhill when Eddie Veder started hanging out with Neil Young. X2 They still have time to change my mind but Coldplay is on the slide |
2008-06-29 10:23 PM in reply to: #1497872 |
Master 1821 | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark jccbulldog - 2008-06-29 10:07 PM Pearl Jam. Ten was a great album, vs. was o.k. and then complete crap since. Things went downhill when Eddie Veder started hanging out with Neil Young. no. Edited by jimbo 2008-06-29 10:28 PM |
2008-06-30 7:31 AM in reply to: #1497917 |
Regular 206 | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark jimbo - 2008-06-29 9:23 PM Wolfhound668 - 2008-06-29 10:01 PM indeed. lars ulrich is a whiny little troll. i tried watching their documentary "some kind of monster" a couple years ago and had to turn it off b/c lars was so detestable. i read that chris cornell is collaborating with timbaland. no, thankyou. aerosmith when they did the cryin/crazy/amazin videos with alicia silverstone. garth brooks when he did that chris gaines album. GNR when they did an $4M video, or when axl had a new album coming out for a decade and then showed up a tired, old man on the mtv music awards with a guy with a bucket on his head.Reading through this I guess I'm the only metalhead. For me I would say Metalica. In their early years they did interviews saying any band doing videos was selling out to the corporations and MTv. Along comes "And justice for all" and they do a video. Ok, acceptable since One was a cool song based on a cool movie, based on a cool novel. The "Black Album" they released what, ten videos, produced by the same guy that did Def Leppard's videos? Then they have an absolutely terrible double live album, followed by a couple more lousy albums accompanied with whining about how the evil "pirates" are costing them so much money. Bah, I saw them live five or six times. Never again. I'm right with you on Aerosmith. I always said they did their best music back when they were all on drugs and couldn't stand each other. |
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2008-06-30 8:21 AM in reply to: #1498016 |
Master 1584 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark jimbo - 2008-06-29 10:23 PM jccbulldog - 2008-06-29 10:07 PM Pearl Jam. Ten was a great album, vs. was o.k. and then complete crap since. Things went downhill when Eddie Veder started hanging out with Neil Young. no.
x 1 million. PJ Rocks |
2008-06-30 8:22 AM in reply to: #1494232 |
Expert 1603 Westchester, NY | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark ...and I'll agree on U2....I have never been on board with the music, and then Bono doing his thing...good intentions but it is too much at some point..... This response is not directed any specific poster. Just a general thought. I just never understood this attitude. The dude has made millions of $ making music and for years now (i.e. not a passing fad for him) he has tried to do some real good in the world...and people dislike him for it? THAT BASTARD! I suppose it'd be better if he just pi$$ed it all away on drugs, cars and hookers? |
2008-06-30 1:35 PM in reply to: #1498315 |
Expert 828 | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 8:22 AM ...and I'll agree on U2....I have never been on board with the music, and then Bono doing his thing...good intentions but it is too much at some point..... This response is not directed any specific poster. Just a general thought. I just never understood this attitude. The dude has made millions of $ making music and for years now (i.e. not a passing fad for him) he has tried to do some real good in the world...and people dislike him for it? THAT BASTARD! I suppose it'd be better if he just pi$$ed it all away on drugs, cars and hookers? I did a bad job of making my point....I think it is fantastic he does what he does.....It is how what he does is rolled into his music and how it makes his music soooo great. It isn't. It sucks. But what he does for helping the worlds poor is fabulous.....sorry. I was trying to be brief and it came across wrong....There comes a point at which they need to be showing Bono and what he is doing without his awful music to go along with a video documentary....... |
2008-06-30 1:39 PM in reply to: #1499411 |
Expert 1603 Westchester, NY | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark Rad-Onc PA - 2008-06-30 2:35 PM Fatdoggy - 2008-06-30 8:22 AM I did a bad job of making my point....I think it is fantastic he does what he does.....It is how what he does is rolled into his music and how it makes his music soooo great. It isn't. It sucks. But what he does for helping the worlds poor is fabulous.....sorry. I was trying to be brief and it came across wrong....There comes a point at which they need to be showing Bono and what he is doing without his awful music to go along with a video documentary....... ...and I'll agree on U2....I have never been on board with the music, and then Bono doing his thing...good intentions but it is too much at some point..... This response is not directed any specific poster. Just a general thought. I just never understood this attitude. The dude has made millions of $ making music and for years now (i.e. not a passing fad for him) he has tried to do some real good in the world...and people dislike him for it? THAT BASTARD! I suppose it'd be better if he just pi$$ed it all away on drugs, cars and hookers? Again, was not directed at you specifically....a few on this thread have said similar things and this attitude goes way beyond BT. Shoot, on South Park a year or two ago there was an entire episode devoted to how Bono was actually a giant piece of poo that had taken human form. ;-) But I DO disagree with you on the music. There have been a few misses post "Joshua Tree" but their last album is great IMO. |
2008-07-01 1:53 AM in reply to: #1492293 |
Extreme Veteran 441 windsor, ontario | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark
``Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?
"Why do you have all of that duct tape in the closet"
"To tape things"
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2008-07-01 9:32 AM in reply to: #1491510 |
Expert 1158 A Husker stuck in VA | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark The Cure. I don't remember the album but when I was a teenager I remember them saying that if they ever had a song go to number one on the pop charts they would disband. Like a year later they hit number one and started work on a new, sucky album. BTW, I can't stand Bono or U2!! |
2008-07-01 11:04 AM in reply to: #1501408 |
Master 2060 Northern California | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark NavyTRIChief - 2008-07-01 7:32 AM The Cure. I don't remember the album but when I was a teenager I remember them saying that if they ever had a song go to number one on the pop charts they would disband. Like a year later they hit number one and started work on a new, sucky album. BTW, I can't stand Bono or U2!!
Well, technically The Cure never reached No. 1 on the "Pop" Charts, which is really called the "Billboard Hot 100." They did reach No. 1 a few times on whatever the "Modern Rock Tracks" Chart is. |
2008-07-01 1:55 PM in reply to: #1491510 |
Elite 2673 Muskego, WI | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark I'm gonna dip my toes in the water here and say STYX. Many of you probably never liked STYX in the first place, but they came on strong when I was just hitting my early grade school/middle school prime. They always were a tad manic-depressive with the soft songs with hard beats later, like LADY and COME SAIL AWAY. Still, I like(d) it. Whatever album had BABE on it (Cornerstone?) was the end, the sappy stuff won out. |
2008-07-01 2:00 PM in reply to: #1502200 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark morey1 - 2008-07-01 1:55 PM I'm gonna dip my toes in the water here and say STYX. Many of you probably never liked STYX in the first place, but they came on strong when I was just hitting my early grade school/middle school prime. They always were a tad manic-depressive with the soft songs with hard beats later, like LADY and COME SAIL AWAY. Still, I like(d) it. Whatever album had BABE on it (Cornerstone?) was the end, the sappy stuff won out. Don't you be hatin' on "Mr. Roboto" now. It's the last song we play at the office to close out the work week every Friday afternoon. I don't even know why. It's just tradition. Edited by scoobysdad 2008-07-01 2:00 PM |
2008-07-01 2:00 PM in reply to: #1491510 |
Master 1967 | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark Information Society |
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2008-07-01 2:12 PM in reply to: #1491510 |
Master 2014 Ohio | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark X2 on Aerosmith. My all time favorite band. They still put on a good show but the last really good album they put out was PUMP. A few good songs here and there but since they got off the drugs, not so much. David |
2008-07-01 5:16 PM in reply to: #1491592 |
Master 1924 Denver | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark wes mantooth - 2008-06-26 8:58 AM scoobysdad - 2008-06-26 9:38 AM In this thread, we're looking for bands that started out with a ton of promise and integrity, released a great album or three, then for whatever reason ("new" creative direction, old age, change of line-up) became a silly, irrelevant, overblown or just plain bad version of themselves. For bonus points, cite the exact moment when they jumped the shark. Perhaps it was the release of a certain single, album or maybe even a specific concert or appearance on a TV show. Here's a few to get started: Stevie Wonder???? WHAT? Shut your mouth. Stevie being on this list is almost sacreligious.
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2008-07-01 5:24 PM in reply to: #1502243 |
Master 2060 Northern California | Subject: RE: Bands that jumped the shark David tri's - 2008-07-01 12:12 PM X2 on Aerosmith. My all time favorite band. They still put on a good show but the last really good album they put out was PUMP. A few good songs here and there but since they got off the drugs, not so much. David
And even PUMP was mostly thanks to Desmond Child. |
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