An open letter to Baggyman

Dude, you flaked and then raced?

Only right thing to do is pay up.

Not attacking you.

I gave him 10 days in an original PM to get in contact with me. I saw he read the message, but he has made no effort to contact me. I told him at that point that if he didn't respond, I'd post it on the forums. 

He didn't respond, so I posted it on the forums, like I said I would. 

Here's the thing. BT is not "THAT" kind of place. We don't attack each other, we aren't (generally) pissy to each other, and each and every person I've met thus far has been awesome in their own right. 

That's why I didn't really think twice when I fronted $4500 for a rental house in Idaho, for a bunch of people on the internet. 

I've been on this site for over 4.5 years. I like it here. I've already received PM's from BT'ers offering to pay to make up the difference. People that didn't even GO to Idaho, or have anything to do with the race at all! That's the kind of place this is.

So no, no one will attack you. 

And I'd like to hear what Baggyman has to say, actually.

what happened to the threads on the other forums?

Oh well, he logged today so I find hard to believe he is not aware of the situation/threads which can just leads us to believe he is avoiding to provide any explanation at all. He could just PM whizzz, get this straight up by paying, request whizzz to get the threads pulled and voila all back to normal. But choosing to remain silent just make him look bad (to avoid using other adjectives...)

Can't cross pollinate. 

Indeed.  It's the complete silence ( not the lack of paying ) that is the most disturbing/frustrating.

A simple PM saying I'm having a rough time, and can't pay you now ( if that's the case ) anytime in the past few weeks, and we'd not be here today reading this thread.

He reads the PMs asking for the courtesy of a reply, but no reply ever comes.

No explanation of why he committed but didn't show up.  We were wondering up until the day of the race if he was going to show up at the house or not, since the only contact we had was a brief message that he was possibly injured and not sure if he was racing ( 2 days before we all left for CdA ).  Apparently he did show up and race, so he stayed somewhere.

I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, he just needs to let us know what the story is.

What a loser.  Thanks for posting it on the "Arizona" forum Whizzzzz! 

It was on there long enough to let us other Arizonan's know to stay away from him.  For the most part, we're a pretty close-knit group and he's definitely NOT invited!

Wow......That is such a childish act Baggyman....

We are all adults here, we are all reasonable people......

Whizzzzz - 2008-07-08 7:00 AM He removed his real name. And his email address. I just don't understand it.

It's not like if someone so was inclined, that they couldn't get his real name from the IMCdA thread, and his email address is out there already.  Although I don't know what they'd do with it.

Very strange behavior.  I hope that you get your money, or at the very least, an explanation which sounds at least halfway plausible.

That took some character to post, Baggyman.  You admitted the fault, and made no excuses.  I wasn't even in the house and I appreciate that you finally came forward.  There is no reason to leave BT; you explained what happened.  I would be willing to bet that if you offered to pay $20 a month until the thing was paid off, the folks in the house would appreciate it, and everyone would move on.

We are all human; we all make mistakes; we all go through hard times.  This sport, and especially this site, is full of people willing to help out.  Did you handle this situation poorly up until now?  Yep.  Will you be forgiven?  Yep.

As for those who sent hate mail; shame on them.  A friendly encouragement to come forward is one thing, but cussing you out, etc. is against the spirit of the site and is uncalled for. 

Stick around, rebuild the friendships you have made on here, and make good on the debt, even if it is in small increments.  Oh, and more importantly, congrats on getting custody of your kiddos, and I hope you are able to move forward with some positive momentum. 

p.s. - a 13:39 time at CDA is pretty darn good as well.

We humans are such odd and funny creatures. 

Human, as defined in Merriam Websters dictionary, as an adjective:  susceptible to or representative of the sympathies and frailties of human nature <such an inconsistency is very human>. 

To err is human (for sure) and to forgive is divine. 

Sorry to hear about your divorce Baggyman.  Divorce, especially when young children are involved, is one of the most stressful events a person can go through.  

Perhaps in the future, when you get back on your feet again, you can make right with the faulted financial commitment.   

X2.

Whizz, you acted in good faith based on your trust in the BT community, and should not have to incur a financial loss because of it. The better members of this community would be happy to make a small donation to restore that faith and make you financially whole again.

It takes a lot of trust and no small amount of work to organize and arrange a "BT house" for these kinds of events. But they are fun, add to the event, and can even save a few bucks.  I would hate to see this practice ends because of one bad incident.