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2008-07-09 10:37 AM

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I once read a post on here that said (paraphrasing) "most people ride to hard on their easy days, and not hard enough on their hard days"....Well, yesterday was 45 min hard on the bike with a hard, short run afterwards. Now today is supposed to be a recovery ride according to the plan. In the past, I have a feeling I have been working too hard on these days. How do you guys/gals ride on your easy days? Zone 1/2 or just Z1 or Z2??? Thx...

2008-07-09 10:49 AM
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haha i feel like it might have been me that said that.

for me a recovery ride is very very easy, spinning at a high cadence (over 90), and in a gear that feels like i am NOT WORKING AT ALL. i am just trying to get the legs spinning, not pushing or putting out much effort.

an easy ride and a recovery ride are not the same thing, an easy ride you cruise, in a recovery ride you are just trying to do enough to get the ride done with the least effort
2008-07-09 10:52 AM
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mid to low Z1.  These are just to get the blood flowing in your legs to aid in recovery.  If you push too hard, not only are you not recovering, but you won't get much return on your effort. 

2008-07-09 10:54 AM
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Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.
2008-07-09 11:00 AM
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squishybelly - 2008-07-09 4:54 PM Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.

Walking, perhaps.

2008-07-09 11:03 AM
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squishybelly - 2008-07-09 11:54 AM Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.

Yes, there are recovery runs jogs.  See something like mcmillians run calculator for suggested recovery jog paces. 



2008-07-09 11:15 AM
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squishybelly - 2008-07-09 7:54 PM Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.

 

I guess that depends on your run fitness.  If running at all is difficult, then probably not.  However for a lot of people, a 8-9 min/mile run is slow enough to be a recovery run.  For others, maybe it's a 10min/mile run. 

2008-07-09 1:51 PM
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squishybelly - 2008-07-09 11:54 AM

Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.


Sure it just has to be slow enough compared with your race pace. So If I race a 5k in 18:00 (5:50), a recovery pace of 8:15 is pretty easy.

If someone is racing at 8:15, your recovery pace may actually be closer to a brisk walk or run/walk!

My opinion most beginning runners only have a single pace, they race, train, long run all at the one pace, which always makes it hard to ever recover.
2008-07-09 2:06 PM
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squishybelly - 2008-07-09 11:54 AM

Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.




My opinion most beginning runners only have a single pace, they race, train, long run all at the one pace, which always makes it hard to ever recover.


But isn't that the best way to start? If I did speed work when I first started, it would have been a 3 min workout. As it was, 20 min at a pace that got my feet off of the ground was about to kill me....Is there anything wrong with doing but aerobic work for 6 mos at first....Then move on to speed?
2008-07-09 2:16 PM
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Rad-Onc PA - 2008-07-09 3:06 PM
hurtin - 2008-07-09 1:51 PM
squishybelly - 2008-07-09 11:54 AM Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.
My opinion most beginning runners only have a single pace, they race, train, long run all at the one pace, which always makes it hard to ever recover.
But isn't that the best way to start? If I did speed work when I first started, it would have been a 3 min workout. As it was, 20 min at a pace that got my feet off of the ground was about to kill me....Is there anything wrong with doing but aerobic work for 6 mos at first....Then move on to speed?

I think you are missing something here.  Yes, doing aerobic work for x number of months is a great way to start.  But Hurtin was saying that many beginners(me included) try do this at race pace, not at their aerobic pace. 

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Rad-Onc PA - 2008-07-09 3:06 PM
hurtin - 2008-07-09 1:51 PM
squishybelly - 2008-07-09 11:54 AM Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.
My opinion most beginning runners only have a single pace, they race, train, long run all at the one pace, which always makes it hard to ever recover.
But isn't that the best way to start? If I did speed work when I first started, it would have been a 3 min workout. As it was, 20 min at a pace that got my feet off of the ground was about to kill me....Is there anything wrong with doing but aerobic work for 6 mos at first....Then move on to speed?

I think you are missing something here.  Yes, doing aerobic work for x number of months is a great way to start.  But Hurtin was saying that many beginners(me included) try do this at race pace, not at their aerobic pace. 



ahhh...gotcha. That was true for me as running a race and a training run would have been done at the same pace....slow. (thankfully that is improving and I have several paces at which I now run) Thx for clarifying....

2008-07-09 4:13 PM
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ohiost90 - 2008-07-09 3:16 PM

Rad-Onc PA - 2008-07-09 3:06 PM
hurtin - 2008-07-09 1:51 PM
squishybelly - 2008-07-09 11:54 AM Is there such a thing as a recovery run? It would seem much harder to accomplish than a recovery ride.
My opinion most beginning runners only have a single pace, they race, train, long run all at the one pace, which always makes it hard to ever recover.
But isn't that the best way to start? If I did speed work when I first started, it would have been a 3 min workout. As it was, 20 min at a pace that got my feet off of the ground was about to kill me....Is there anything wrong with doing but aerobic work for 6 mos at first....Then move on to speed?

I think you are missing something here.  Yes, doing aerobic work for x number of months is a great way to start.  But Hurtin was saying that many beginners(me included) try do this at race pace, not at their aerobic pace. 



Yeah that was exactly my point.

Interestingly enough, I'm now going through this same process with Biking and Swimming, you went through with running. I Race at virtually the same pace I train at! So I could use some others advice on those sports.
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