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2008-08-26 8:46 PM

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Subject: Converse shoe company is frickin' stupid and money grubbing ......

These only come in 2 colors ...... red and dark blue.

http://www.journeys.com/catalog_detail.aspx?c=guys&s=shoes%2fNew&id=80025

Please tell me these are marketed to any other group then the Bloods and Crips ........... your full of sh-t if you think they aren't.

Why in the hell would they do that other than to make a quick buck???  What are they going to do when ignorant wannabe street punk wears these thinking he is all cool and then gets shot or ends up in the hospital from a beat down for wearing the wrong colors in the wrong neighborhood???

Irresponsible marketing for sure.



2008-08-26 8:55 PM
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2008-08-26 9:13 PM
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I am a nightmare walking, psychopath talking
King of my jungle just a gangster stalking
Living life like a firecracker quick is my fuse
Then dead as a deathpack the colors I choose
Red or Blue, Cuz or Blood, it just don't matter
Sucker die for your life when my shotgun scatters
We gangs of L.A. will never die - just multiply
2008-08-26 9:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Converse shoe company is frickin' stupid and money grubbing ......
Daremo - 2008-08-26 9:46 PM

 

Please tell me these are marketed to any other group then the Bloods and Crips ........... your full of sh-t if you think they aren't.

Probably no self-respecting blood or crip would wear them. So, their no doubt marketed to wiggers.

2008-08-26 9:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Converse shoe company is frickin' stupid and money grubbing ......
run4yrlif - 2008-08-26 9:16 PM
Daremo - 2008-08-26 9:46 PM

 

Please tell me these are marketed to any other group then the Bloods and Crips ........... your full of sh-t if you think they aren't.

Probably no self-respecting blood or crip would wear them. So, their no doubt marketed to wiggers.

WORD!!!  and I won't have to wear that bandana on my head any more.  The shoes got me covered that too.

2008-08-26 10:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Converse shoe company is frickin' stupid and money grubbing ......
I heard a comedian once say that in order to keep from getting beat up by the bloods or crips he decided to wear plaid one day. Then two golfers beat the hell outta him!


2008-08-26 11:30 PM
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2008-08-26 11:32 PM
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LOL, guess I am full of sh-t then    How bout them Bollicine people?  red and blue only.  Bastards! http://www.shop.com/Floto_Bollicine_Handbag_in_Red_or_Blue-82164417-p!.shtml

Actually, Crips prefer British Knights because the BK also stands for Blood Killers.  Columbia Knights stands for CK - Crip Killers

One of the big problems in recent years with local gangs is the advent of Air Jordans and other $150+ shoes is gang members stealing kids shoes... some get killed for them

they ain't stealing $49 converse hi tops

OK, a little googling, the reason converse are used by gangs (along withBK, CK, Nikes, etc) is the five point star logo which apparently is the same as some gang cr#p



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2008-08-27 10:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Converse shoe company is frickin' stupid and money grubbing ......
Daremo - 2008-08-26 6:46 PM

These only come in 2 colors ...... red and dark blue.

http://www.journeys.com/catalog_detail.aspx?c=guys&s=shoes%2fNew&id=80025

Please tell me these are marketed to any other group then the Bloods and Crips ........... your full of sh-t if you think they aren't.

Why in the hell would they do that other than to make a quick buck???  What are they going to do when ignorant wannabe street punk wears these thinking he is all cool and then gets shot or ends up in the hospital from a beat down for wearing the wrong colors in the wrong neighborhood???

Irresponsible marketing for sure.

This problem of creating product line and marketing to gangs goes MUCH, MUCH deeper than you could possibly imagine.

2008-08-27 11:03 AM
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Just a little heads up... be mad at Nike... they purchased Converse a couple years ago.
2008-08-27 11:12 AM
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ChrisM - 2008-08-27 12:32 AM

LOL, guess I am full of sh-t then    How bout them Bollicine people?  red and blue only.  Bastards! http://www.shop.com/Floto_Bollicine_Handbag_in_Red_or_Blue-82164417-p!.shtml

Actually, Crips prefer British Knights because the BK also stands for Blood Killers.  Columbia Knights stands for CK - Crip Killers

One of the big problems in recent years with local gangs is the advent of Air Jordans and other $150+ shoes is gang members stealing kids shoes... some get killed for them

they ain't stealing $49 converse hi tops

OK, a little googling, the reason converse are used by gangs (along withBK, CK, Nikes, etc) is the five point star logo which apparently is the same as some gang cr#p

So you're saying that the bloods must also love Burger King.  Which clearly means...Peter Griffin is a blood.

 





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2008-08-27 11:23 AM
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Ethically, it is a poor decision about marketing...  I'm embarrassed for them...  It's in very poor taste.

However, they shouldn't be held "responsable" if gang members are killing themselves based on colors and these shoes...  If so, then we may have to blame the NFL, MLB and NBA, who's jersey colors are also appealing to gang members as well.  The shoe companies for producing high priced shoes that kids are getting killed over as well.

The shoes are an embarrassment, but I shy away from stating that companies need to take responsability of what individuals may do with their products....

2008-08-27 1:41 PM
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I'm not saying that Converse/Nike should be held responsible for any gang activities.  I'm saying that they have some serious ethical issues with specifically targeting and marketing to an area of society that is problematic.

And yes Jim, I didn't want to say that and had edited that out of my post before putting it up.  But the reality is that Joe Whiteboy from Azz Pimple, Iowa will be the one who buys them to be cool and also probably will be the one to get his azz kicked badly by gang members .......

2008-08-27 1:57 PM
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Daremo - 2008-08-27 1:41 PM

I'm not saying that Converse/Nike should be held responsible for any gang activities.  I'm saying that they have some serious ethical issues with specifically targeting and marketing to an area of society that is problematic.

And yes Jim, I didn't want to say that and had edited that out of my post before putting it up.  But the reality is that Joe Whiteboy from Azz Pimple, Iowa will be the one who buys them to be cool and also probably will be the one to get his azz kicked badly by gang members .......

Are there Bloods and Crips in Azz Pimple, Iowa?  I never knew.

2008-08-27 1:59 PM
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Yo, I need a pair to show off my homeys in cubicle-ville.  They be trippin' and all.  BANGIN'!
2008-08-27 2:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Converse shoe company is frickin' stupid and money grubbing ......
Daremo - 2008-08-27 11:41 AM

I'm not saying that Converse/Nike should be held responsible for any gang activities.  I'm saying that they have some serious ethical issues with specifically targeting and marketing to an area of society that is problematic.

 

I cannot think of a single reason why the LA Dodgers (whose primary color is Blue) would sell this hat, other than to target gang members (minority youth?)

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3012081&cp=1452355.1452790.1454568

Same with the Yankees:

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2722177&cp=1452360.1452526.2016109



2008-08-27 2:21 PM
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First, it's a bit presumptive to state that minority youth = gang member.  Among other things.

Second, what am I missing?  I think Rick's post has more credence (even tho it's a little reactionary in my view, but so be it), than saying that a black baseball hat with a red logo is targeted to gang members.   Yes, Dodgers color is blue, but teams for years have been marketing apparel with alternate colors/schemes. 

I am looking at a black Alcatraz Sharkfest Swim cap with red letters.  Is that also gang related?  Is the purple logo targeted at homosexuals (to borrow another oft used association)?

Third, why shouldn't a team located in a highly Hispanic area market to its audience... i.e., minority youth? 

I guess I am just a little less conspiratorial than others.

If you want  to go after companies truly marketing to gang members, why not go after record companies selling t shirts with gangsta rappers on them.... or flannel shirt makers.... 



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ChrisM - 2008-08-27 3:21 PM

  • ... or flannel shirt makers....




  • paul bunyan. O.G. (though i'm not sure how he'd explain his "blue" ox.)



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    2008-08-27 2:49 PM
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    I know certainly that these are not the only products that specifically target the "thug" youth mentality.  It is all over the hip hop "culture."  And it sells

    The fact is that these are only available in two colors, WITH ASSOCIATED COLORED BANDANNAS.  Not black, or green or yellow or some other color.  Just the two known rival gang colors of the two largest and most recognizable gangs out there with their most recognized symbol included in the shoe.  And it is not an inner city of large metropolis area problem.  We have branches of the two gangs in frickin' way out suburban Baltimore!!

    The simple observation through the media that this type of thing does not bother people and will more than likely just get swept under the rug shows the complacent attitude of the US populace and is a crying shame .......... It ain't in my neighborhood so why should I care?

    Well, it is in your neighborhood, you just have your blinders on.  (Not directed at any one person, but at society).

    2008-08-27 3:25 PM
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    ChrisM - 2008-08-27 12:21 PM

    First, it's a bit presumptive to state that minority youth = gang member.  Among other things.

    It looks a little wrong the way I typed it - I admit. They were meant to indicate to separate, but linked groups of people.

    However, I'd be willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of gang members are young (under 30), non-anglo males...

    2008-08-27 3:33 PM
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    coachese - 2008-08-27 1:25 PM
    ChrisM - 2008-08-27 12:21 PM

    First, it's a bit presumptive to state that minority youth = gang member.  Among other things.

    It looks a little wrong the way I typed it - I admit. They were meant to indicate to separate, but linked groups of people.

    However, I'd be willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of gang members are young (under 30), non-anglo males...

    As would I, but the Venn diagram would say most gang members are minorities, but not that most minorities are gang members.  I know you aren't saying that though.

    Still disagree Rick.  Being born and bred in LA I am well aware of the issues, but disagreeing that Converse is marketing to gang members doesn't mean it's being swept under the rug.  I prefer to focus on more salient (to me) issues, such as the lack of males/fathers in the inner city communities and minority on minority crime.  While the "converse" issue may to you seem more palatable, on the list of things contributing to the Thug Life it's way down there, among say aftermarket products to turn your Chevy Impala into a low rider.

    Of course, it's all my opinion.  YMMV



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    the three available colors in these shoes are Blue, Red and both with white.

    why do you hate France?

    2008-08-27 3:45 PM
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    Daremo - 2008-08-27 2:41 PM

    ...Joe Whiteboy from Azz Pimple, Iowa .......

     

    you rang?  (btw: it is pronounced "Asbury, Iowa"

     

    unless the shoes were sold at "The Buckle," I wouldn't have considered purchasing them...



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    2008-08-27 3:49 PM
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    Or Ohio State/Michigan fans

     

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    ScottoNM - 2008-08-27 4:49 PM

     

    Or Ohio State/Michigan fans

     




    Don't type those names so close together. Although you do have the correct order.
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