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 2008-09-18 8:24 PM in reply to: #1682500 |
Elite  3022   Preferably on my bike somewhere |  Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon RacesI'd think a camelback would be unnecessary for that distance. However, your hydration needs will depend on you, your ability to sweat, the temperature, and your experience. If 32oz of fluid (2x16oz water bottles) isn't enough, do what you need to do to get you across the finish line safely, and back out there the next day for a cool down run.  Truth be told, I'll take a camelback with me on a 30mile ride just because I tend to get far away from help. You might look a little funny with a camelback, but who the cares? You're racing YOUR race. If anyone has a problem with it, they can go themselves. Right? |
| 2008-09-18 11:37 PM in reply to: #1682543 |
Elite 2608  Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races Donskiman - 2008-09-18 1:59 PM I've seen people with Camelbaks even in sprint races. IMO it's a huge sign screaming "I'M A NEWBIE!" For an Oly, 2 bottles should be sufficient. Plus many Oly races have at least one aid station on the bike. Others have alredy covered the tool considerations. But if you don't have cages or a seat bag, and the Camelbak is all you have, then by all means use it. Sorry Donskiman, I know you're a fellow Coloradan and all, but statements like this are opinionated bullsh*t. Perhaps for sprints it's a bit overkill, but Camelbaks are great. I don't know if doing two races puts me in a more "experienced" category or still a newbie, but I think drinking out of a Camelbak is way easier than reaching for a bottle. And while it is true that aid stations should be well stocked, "veteran" racers know not to depend on the aid stations. Just look at what happened at the Chicago marathon last year. Also, you avoid any potential of crashing into another cyclists while reaching for a bottle at the aid station. Ironically, if you ever do an off-road tri or even a mountain bike race, nothing screams "smart mountain biker" like someone with a Camelbak. When I did my first off-road tri, the RD highly recommended wearing a Camelbak on the bike. Good MTBers know that reaching down for a bottle while going over rocks and roots on a singletrack is just a wreck waiting to happen. |
| 2008-09-18 11:42 PM in reply to: #1682752 |
| Elite 2608 Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races dlb3830 - 2008-09-18 3:10 PM Lisbeth Kristensen, 11th place female in Kona 2006, ran with a camelback. Stupid newbie. Apparently, the Camelbak kept her nice and cool. Either that or she put an M&M in her bra, perhaps as a snack during the run. I want one of those hats. |
| 2008-09-19 8:53 AM in reply to: #1683610 |
Regular 156 | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races I've used one for an olympic and a HIM. I think one benifit is that I was constantly sipping as the tube was so close to my mouth. Didn't have to reach for a bottle. I did have a 20 oz. bottle w/ powerade which I drank from throughout. One potential disadvantage to rear mounted bottle cages is losing bottles. At a relatively mild railroad crossing, it was a sports bottle graveyard. I bet a dozen bottles had been ejected. Imagine the shock of reaching back for a bottle that isn't there. As far as time (aerodynamics) I did the same olympic with and w/ out a camelback and my split was within a minutes difference. |
| 2008-09-19 9:18 AM in reply to: #1682862 |
Expert 832 Framingham, MA | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races dgunthert - 2008-09-18 4:48 PM The bottom line, though, is do what works for you. Harry, there's your answer. Just make sure you have fun at your race, that's more important than anything else, regardless of what you read here. |
| 2008-09-19 9:20 AM in reply to: #1682500 |
Pro 4277 Parker, CO | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races my wife recently bought me a camelback. I haven't used it for a tri but last week when I was racing I thought during the ride it sure would have been nice to have the camelback rather than reaching down and the sitting up to take in fluids. If a person is comfortable with carrying the camelback I think it's a pretty good idea. Takes very little time to throw on you back and personnally I find I drink more with the camelback. Who cares if you look like a "newbie"! |
| 2008-09-19 9:21 AM in reply to: #1683610 |
Pro 4277 Parker, CO | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races MikeTheBear - 2008-09-18 10:42 PM dlb3830 - 2008-09-18 3:10 PM Lisbeth Kristensen, 11th place female in Kona 2006, ran with a camelback. Stupid newbie. Apparently, the Camelbak kept her nice and cool. Either that or she put an M&M in her bra, perhaps as a snack during the run. I want one of those hats.M&M...that's exactly what I was thinking. I like M&Ms! |
| 2008-09-19 9:27 AM in reply to: #1683926 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races Use whatever you need and whatever you are comfortable with. Damn anyone who comments otherwise. But for ME it is a simple matter of course supported. For an oly. I take one large bottle on the bike. If for some reason I am on a course that might be longer and doesn't provide fluids, I'll put on my behind-the-seat bottle holder which can do two more bottles. |
| 2008-09-19 12:35 PM in reply to: #1682828 |
Expert 828 | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races [. FWIW, I never indicated that having something indicating "I'M A NEWBIE!" was a bad thing. At one time all of us were newbies and most likely looked like one. I know I did. And wow, if your wife needed 56 ounces of fluid for a sprint it may signal that she is a bit out of the ordinary. Not that it's a bad thing. How would she ever get enough fluid for a longer race? She couldn't possibly carry more than 200 ounces for a HIM - could she? She goes thru 56oz in a 55min spin class...granted that is hot and enclosed. She did the Aquabike event in Macon, 56 mi. when it was 93 degrees. She went through two bottles in her cages, one alterra and grabbed water at every handoff....and still complained she couldn't drink enough....fwiw, she is blonde, blue eyes, fair skin, and overheats when it's 80 degrees.... |
| 2008-09-19 2:33 PM in reply to: #1682500 |
Member 50 | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races I'll now have to get a helmet cover (afro or mowhawk) and attach my blinker to my Camelback. Yep. I'll be setting the "stay away from him" pace. Maybe I can find some M+M's along the way too.  (Aviator glasses optional) |
| 2008-09-19 2:38 PM in reply to: #1682778 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races harryjuice - 2008-09-18 4:16 PM The race is Naylor's beach and it is a smaller evernt, capped at 500, and not at 100% yet. The bike map is here http://www.racesonline.com/uploads/naylorsbeachtri_bike.pdf and I can't tell what stations are where (but did read race reports from previous years and think there is good aid) but the abbreviation key is missing from the map. I have an email to race director as we speak. The Camelback weight is not that bad and It's really just a small one and my Trailblazer is MUCH bigger and heavier, so weight will be better than what I'm used to training in. I asked about the expo and will bring a bottle with me just so I know I have one. Harry Having done the race, I can say that you'll probably want the Camelback more on the run than you will on the bike. There is good aid on the bike and when I did it they did a bottle hand off. The run was very hot and open. I wished I had more water than what was provided on the course. |
| 2008-09-19 2:48 PM in reply to: #1684723 |
Member 50 | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races Artemis - 2008-09-19 3:38 PM harryjuice - 2008-09-18 4:16 PM The race is Naylor's beach and it is a smaller evernt, capped at 500, and not at 100% yet. The bike map is here http://www.racesonline.com/uploads/naylorsbeachtri_bike.pdf and I can't tell what stations are where (but did read race reports from previous years and think there is good aid) but the abbreviation key is missing from the map. I have an email to race director as we speak. The Camelback weight is not that bad and It's really just a small one and my Trailblazer is MUCH bigger and heavier, so weight will be better than what I'm used to training in. I asked about the expo and will bring a bottle with me just so I know I have one. Harry Having done the race, I can say that you'll probably want the Camelback more on the run than you will on the bike. There is good aid on the bike and when I did it they did a bottle hand off. The run was very hot and open. I wished I had more water than what was provided on the course. I asked Laurie and she said no water support on the bike. Was it other stuff than water? I just got word from her on that yesterday. Hmph. |
| 2008-09-19 2:54 PM in reply to: #1684749 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races harryjuice - 2008-09-19 3:48 PM Artemis - 2008-09-19 3:38 PM harryjuice - 2008-09-18 4:16 PM The race is Naylor's beach and it is a smaller evernt, capped at 500, and not at 100% yet. The bike map is here http://www.racesonline.com/uploads/naylorsbeachtri_bike.pdf and I can't tell what stations are where (but did read race reports from previous years and think there is good aid) but the abbreviation key is missing from the map. I have an email to race director as we speak. The Camelback weight is not that bad and It's really just a small one and my Trailblazer is MUCH bigger and heavier, so weight will be better than what I'm used to training in. I asked about the expo and will bring a bottle with me just so I know I have one. Harry Having done the race, I can say that you'll probably want the Camelback more on the run than you will on the bike. There is good aid on the bike and when I did it they did a bottle hand off. The run was very hot and open. I wished I had more water than what was provided on the course. I asked Laurie and she said no water support on the bike. Was it other stuff than water? I just got word from her on that yesterday. Hmph. I did it in 2006, so I'm sure they've changed it since then. There used to be a bottle handoff around mile 12. It doesn't look like it's on the map anymore and Laurie will have the most up to date information. Either way, you might want to consider it for running, too. |
| 2008-09-19 3:25 PM in reply to: #1684760 |
Member 50 | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races Artemis - 2008-09-19 3:54 PM harryjuice - 2008-09-19 3:48 PM Artemis - 2008-09-19 3:38 PM harryjuice - 2008-09-18 4:16 PM The race is Naylor's beach and it is a smaller evernt, capped at 500, and not at 100% yet. The bike map is here http://www.racesonline.com/uploads/naylorsbeachtri_bike.pdf and I can't tell what stations are where (but did read race reports from previous years and think there is good aid) but the abbreviation key is missing from the map. I have an email to race director as we speak. The Camelback weight is not that bad and It's really just a small one and my Trailblazer is MUCH bigger and heavier, so weight will be better than what I'm used to training in. I asked about the expo and will bring a bottle with me just so I know I have one. Harry Having done the race, I can say that you'll probably want the Camelback more on the run than you will on the bike. There is good aid on the bike and when I did it they did a bottle hand off. The run was very hot and open. I wished I had more water than what was provided on the course. I asked Laurie and she said no water support on the bike. Was it other stuff than water? I just got word from her on that yesterday. Hmph. I did it in 2006, so I'm sure they've changed it since then. There used to be a bottle handoff around mile 12. It doesn't look like it's on the map anymore and Laurie will have the most up to date information. Either way, you might want to consider it for running, too. Hmm. Maybe I'll have to plan for that. I did hear the run is hot. |
| 2008-09-19 5:10 PM in reply to: #1684882 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races harryjuice - 2008-09-19 4:25 PM Hmm. Maybe I'll have to plan for that. I did hear the run is hot. There's really no shade for the whole run, so if it is sunny and warm it gets really really hot on the road. |
| 2008-09-19 5:18 PM in reply to: #1682966 |
Veteran 200 Golden, CO | Subject: RE: Camelbacks and Triathlon Races ChrisM - 2008-09-18 4:30 PM dlb3830 - 2008-09-18 1:10 PM Lisbeth Kristensen, 11th place female in Kona 2006, ran with a camelback. Stupid newbie. Camelback whatever, use whatever works,,,, but THANKS for posting that pic! Was there a camleback in that picture? I will need ot go back and look again... |
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