McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate
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2008-09-24 2:29 PM |
Subject: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Just saw this on MSNBC. One benefit of being unemployed, besides 10 am rides and runs.... is seeing what goes on all day long. OK, not a benefit really. Anyway, there is already a "debate" among the campaigns as to who asked for it first, Obama or McCain Plan is to suspend the campaigning and return to DC to work on the economy. |
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2008-09-24 2:31 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Master 1821 | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate mccain statement: Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me. I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem. We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night's debate until we have taken action to address this crisis. obama statement: At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details. |
2008-09-24 2:45 PM in reply to: #1693799 |
Pro 4040 | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate jimbo - 2008-09-24 3:31 PM mccain statement: Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me. I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem. We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night's debate until we have taken action to address this crisis. obama statement: At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details. ...stay tuned for a live feed of McCain and Obama making out. |
2008-09-24 2:51 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Mountain View, CA | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate ChrisM - 2008-09-24 12:29 PM Just saw this on MSNBC. One benefit of being unemployed, besides 10 am rides and runs.... is seeing what goes on all day long. OK, not a benefit really. Anyway, there is already a "debate" among the campaigns as to who asked for it first, Obama or McCain Plan is to suspend the campaigning and return to DC to work on the economy. From what I've read, the "me first" debate is not about who was first to suggest suspension of the campaign(s), but who was first to call for joint action/statement on the economy. I haven't seen anything that indicates Obama wants to suspend his campaign, only that McCain made the overture to Obama. |
2008-09-24 2:56 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Master 1821 | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Biden's statement: Look, do you think Lincoln and Douglas canceled their debates during the economic crisis of 1816-1819? No, by golly, they got on the radio and duked it out. I mean, think about it. Stephen Douglas. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence. A noun, a verb, and the Kansas-Nebraska Act. Palin's statement: *crickets* |
2008-09-24 3:02 PM in reply to: #1693889 |
Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate jimbo - 2008-09-24 12:56 PM Biden's statement: Look, do you think Lincoln and Douglas canceled their debates during the economic crisis of 1816-1819? No, by golly, they got on the radio and duked it out. I mean, think about it. Stephen Douglas. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence. A noun, a verb, and the Kansas-Nebraska Act. Palin's statement: *crickets* This is why we love you As for what the candidates are claiming about what they claimed and who claimed it before the other guy claimed it preventing the second guy from claiming that he actually claimed it first, when in reality the first one claimed it first and the second guy claimed it second, but the second guy said I claimed something different and the first guy said well my claim was better and the second guy says you're a poopy head... I have one word Whatever |
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2008-09-24 3:15 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Not dismissing McCain's genuine interest in fixing the economy, but I can't help to think this is a very Rovian political move. --McCain is falling further behind in the polls By suspending his campaign, he demonstrates leadership. And the type of leadership that the American public likens to. But more importantly, he paints Obama into a corner Obama's options-- 1. Don't suspend and he wants to continue on with the debate and he seems to put politics above the people 2. Don't suspend but lets McCain out of the debate and he doesn't get to address foreign policy (his said weakness) 3. Suspend the campaign and return to DC. He is following McCain's lead and might look weak on domestic issues (his strength) IMO, he shouldn't suspend his campaign but issue a statement that he will be a part of any meetings. But in the meantime, he says he wants to be with the people that are impacted the most by the 'failed economic policies' of the current administration. (Personally, I don't think they will resolve anything by all meeting in DC.) |
2008-09-24 3:16 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Elite 2706 Hurst, Texas | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate ^^^^^^^^ POST OF THE DAY! (greatness, Chris) **ETA** $1.79 posted first, but my p.o.t.d. comment was meant for ChrisM's "whatever" post. Edited by OldAg92 2008-09-24 3:17 PM |
2008-09-24 3:17 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate What happens if the economic crisis lasts for more than 41 days? |
2008-09-24 3:20 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Runner | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Chris, I believe the answer to all this is in your sig block. |
2008-09-24 3:24 PM in reply to: #1693944 |
Mountain View, CA | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate ADollar79 - 2008-09-24 1:15 PM Not dismissing McCain's genuine interest in fixing the economy, but I can't help to think this is a very Rovian political move. --McCain is falling further behind in the polls By suspending his campaign, he demonstrates leadership. And the type of leadership that the American public likens to. But more importantly, he paints Obama into a corner Obama's options-- 1. Don't suspend and he wants to continue on with the debate and he seems to put politics above the people 2. Don't suspend but lets McCain out of the debate and he doesn't get to address foreign policy (his said weakness) 3. Suspend the campaign and return to DC. He is following McCain's lead and might look weak on domestic issues (his strength) IMO, he shouldn't suspend his campaign but issue a statement that he will be a part of any meetings. But in the meantime, he says he wants to be with the people that are impacted the most by the 'failed economic policies' of the current administration. (Personally, I don't think they will resolve anything by all meeting in DC.) I think there's a fourth option for Obama, which is to propose that they change the topic of Friday's debate to the economy. ETA: Not saying that McCain will take him up on it, or even that it's an ideal option, just saying it's an option. Edited by puellasolis 2008-09-24 3:24 PM |
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2008-09-24 3:36 PM in reply to: #1693955 |
Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:20 PM Chris, I believe the answer to all this is in your sig block. What.... is McCain working on hill repeats???? Oh, wait a minute, you mean you are referring to your quote in my sig line... How vain..... |
2008-09-24 3:39 PM in reply to: #1693999 |
Runner | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate ChrisM - 2008-09-24 4:36 PM Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:20 PM Chris, I believe the answer to all this is in your sig block. What.... is McCain working on hill repeats???? Oh, wait a minute, you mean you are referring to your quote in my sig line... How vain..... Good reason to suspend a campaign in my book. "Working on a marathon PR, gotta get in some hill repeats." Then Obama says that he has been training more intelligently, and has a much better plan for completing said marathon. Then the two of them get into some sort of sissy-girl slapfight, and I sit here and laugh at the commentary about who hits more or less like a girl. Edited by Scout7 2008-09-24 3:42 PM |
2008-09-24 3:41 PM in reply to: #1693999 |
Champion 5345 Carlsbad, California | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate ChrisM - 2008-09-24 1:36 PM Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:20 PM Chris, I believe the answer to all this is in your sig block. What.... is McCain working on hill repeats???? Oh, wait a minute, you mean you are referring to your quote in my sig line... How vain..... Whew, I thought for a second that he was telling America to HTFU |
2008-09-24 3:42 PM in reply to: #1693967 |
Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate puellasolis - 2008-09-24 4:24 PM I think there's a fourth option for Obama, which is to propose that they change the topic of Friday's debate to the economy. ETA: Not saying that McCain will take him up on it, or even that it's an ideal option, just saying it's an option. the irony there is that the debate WAS on domestic issues (probably the economy) but both campaigns switched it to foreign policy. it could be switched but debate prep would be difficult given the short timeline Edited by ADollar79 2008-09-24 3:43 PM |
2008-09-24 3:42 PM in reply to: #1694008 |
Runner | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate WaterDog66 - 2008-09-24 4:41 PM ChrisM - 2008-09-24 1:36 PM Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:20 PM Chris, I believe the answer to all this is in your sig block. What.... is McCain working on hill repeats???? Oh, wait a minute, you mean you are referring to your quote in my sig line... How vain..... Whew, I thought for a second that he was telling America to HTFU That, too. |
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2008-09-24 3:43 PM in reply to: #1694006 |
Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:39 PM ChrisM - 2008-09-24 4:36 PM Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:20 PM Chris, I believe the answer to all this is in your sig block. What.... is McCain working on hill repeats???? Oh, wait a minute, you mean you are referring to your quote in my sig line... How vain..... Good reason to suspend a campaign in my book. "Working on a marathon PR, gotta get in some hill repeats." Then Obama says that he has been training more intelligently, and has a much better plan for completing said marathon. Then the two of them get into some sort of sissy-girl slapfight, and I sit here and laugh at the commentary about who hits more or less like a girl. Don't forget the website. I could use the hits |
2008-09-24 3:44 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Expert 1357 Mukwonago, WI | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate I don't know if Obama will actually suspened his campaign as it suggests he might actually have to vote on something. |
2008-09-24 3:45 PM in reply to: #1694017 |
Runner | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate ChrisM - 2008-09-24 4:43 PM Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:39 PM ChrisM - 2008-09-24 4:36 PM Scout7 - 2008-09-24 1:20 PM Chris, I believe the answer to all this is in your sig block. What.... is McCain working on hill repeats???? Oh, wait a minute, you mean you are referring to your quote in my sig line... How vain..... Good reason to suspend a campaign in my book. "Working on a marathon PR, gotta get in some hill repeats." Then Obama says that he has been training more intelligently, and has a much better plan for completing said marathon. Then the two of them get into some sort of sissy-girl slapfight, and I sit here and laugh at the commentary about who hits more or less like a girl. Don't forget the website. I could use the hits pfffttt... What does seaweed and fish have to do with our melting economy and presidential debates? Goober. |
2008-09-24 3:53 PM in reply to: #1694028 |
Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate pfffttt... What does seaweed and fish have to do with our melting economy and presidential debates? Goober. Someone clearly hasn't been paying attention, to wit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU7MSaN6zUU (And, FTR, he has a valid point, even some enviros out here in California want the oil rig sub surface structures to remain in place as they are a thriving habitat) |
2008-09-24 4:36 PM in reply to: #1694027 |
Pro 3906 St Charles, IL | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate wildee - 2008-09-24 3:44 PM I don't know if Obama will actually suspened his campaign as it suggests he might actually have to vote on something. You keep harping on this, but have you checked who has missed the most votes in the current session of Congress ( missing 65% of votes cast so far ). |
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2008-09-24 4:44 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Master 2277 Lake Norman, NC | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Think about the obvious people... THE OBVIOUS! McCain is limited to Federal matching funds. Obama has probably 20 times more money. Of course McCain would want to "suspend" BOTH campaigns for any amount of time. It allows him to spend what little he has in a shorter period of time and get more bang for the buck. Here's why it's a mistake:
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2008-09-24 4:49 PM in reply to: #1693787 |
Expert 892 | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate This is probably best for both sides, given neither really has a solution to this crisis, but I can't help but think this is EXACTLY the moment we should have potential leaders debating. Hell, let's hear their non-scripted views/ideas... let's see how they react when they aren't perfectly prepared. That said, wouldn't you think if Sen. McCain really wanted to make this a non-political issue he could have made the offer in private to Sen. Obama? Instead, he immediately went to the news sources proclaiming to the world how he's gonna get back to Washington to help solve the crisis. Is multi-tasking now off the table for our Presidential candidates? Sorry, but if it smells like a pig with lipstick.... |
2008-09-24 4:50 PM in reply to: #1694198 |
Champion 5345 Carlsbad, California | Subject: RE: McCain to suspend campaign and ask to delay debate Bigfuzzydoug - 2008-09-24 2:44 PM Think about the obvious people... THE OBVIOUS! McCain is limited to Federal matching funds. Obama has probably 20 times more money. Of course McCain would want to "suspend" BOTH campaigns for any amount of time. It allows him to spend what little he has in a shorter period of time and get more bang for the buck. Here's why it's a mistake:
That's an interesting take on his recent action. Do you think he will be going back to Washington to rally the troops and bring the strays (Republicans) back into the fold? Or do you think he will play the "maverick" card and join the dessenters in voicing skepticism/outrage at the prospect of a Republican Congress and President being party to the "Socialization of America". (Paraphrasing some of the recent testimony) |
2008-09-24 4:54 PM in reply to: #1694186 |
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