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2008-09-28 4:08 PM

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Ok so I am about a week or 2 from purchasing my first trainer, looking probably at the CycleOps fluid.  I am just trying to figure the essentials that I would need.  I suppose I will be getting a sweat net, and also a riser block for the front wheel.  The trainer will be on carpet so do I really need a floor mat?  I will be putting many hours a week on it and I have heard that the trainer can be hell on your tire, so would you guys consider getting a whole new wheel and tire specifically for the trainer a necessity?  I am trying to keep this purchase somewhat cost-effective.  I am pretty trainer illiterate so please let me know if you can think of any other accessories I might need, thanks!!


2008-09-28 4:34 PM
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I got my first trainer about 2 weeks ago.  The only accessory I got was the front tire block.  I just use a hand towel between my aerobars as my "sweat net".  I do know some people use the movable gym mats beneath the supports for their carpet, but I keep my trainer in the garage (rainy days in Florida is the only bad training weather we have).

As far as tire ware goes I couldn't tell you.  I think the only concern I would have is if I torque up the rear riser too much and put too much pressure/force on the rear portion of the bike.  But again, I couldn't imagine you putting more pressure on your tire from a trainer than you are from road conditions.

2008-09-28 4:36 PM
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I use a fan and towels instead of a sweat net. If you want to keep cost down, you could use a phone book instead of a riser. A mat might keep your trainer from leaving marks in the carpet. You will go through tires, plus I have heard of others talk about small bits of black left on the floor behind. I use a tire specifically made for trainer use, and have no problems.

You might want to consider this trainer here http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/shop/product.php?productid=16371&c... it is the best fluid trainer available at a price you cant beat.

Just so you know the best fluid trainer is a kurt kinetic road trainer.

2008-09-28 4:36 PM
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IMO I don't think there are any other essentials for a trainer.  Here's what I use:

  • Phone book in place of a riser block - in the past I have also used a box of tiles and left over pieces of laminate flooring
  • Towel - lay it over the top tube and top cap, stem and most of handlebars
  • Tire - old retired road tire; I leave one bike on the trainer all winter - if you only have one bike and will be using it on the trainer and outdoors, then maybe an extra wheel is in order

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2008-09-28 4:38 PM
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ScottyBoy - 2008-09-28 4:34 PM

As far as tire ware goes I couldn't tell you.  I think the only concern I would have is if I torque up the rear riser too much and put too much pressure/force on the rear portion of the bike.  But again, I couldn't imagine you putting more pressure on your tire from a trainer than you are from road conditions.



The problem with tires on a trainer is heat build up. the trainer surface heats up more than a road, cause you keep riding on it. and that heat transfers to the tire.

2008-09-28 4:42 PM
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I second the Kurt, set mine up yesterday.  I am hoping to wear out my tire this winter, good excuse to buy new ones

Joe



2008-09-28 4:47 PM
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Keep it simple:

Fan..must have
towel to wipe sweat or like me two wash clothes..to wipe my head and my nose
spray bottle to keep myself cool
music
Block for front

Get the continental trainer tire...about $22 at Probikekit.com
You can not ride that tire outside so if you riding inside/outside it means changing your tire ever time.

I have bought cheap $10 tire and used it one winter, last year I bought a cheapish heavy duty tire for trainer but it was $30. I have used old Pro 2 tires but they tend to start making noise and slipping. I figured this year it was time to get the continental trainer tire. It is made out of different material so it doesn't shed like other tires do.

This year I have a new bike..cyclocross bike..that I'll use for winter riding with fenders so my power tap wheel will stay on the trainer on my tri bike for hard winter interval workouts.



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2008-09-28 6:58 PM
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Ditto the fans and many cloths/dish towels for sweat absorption. The whole setup is also on top of a big towel (okay, so I sweat A LOT). A radio is important to counteract the boredom. I rode all summer on my trainer tire from last winter without incident. I know that many would recommend against this, but my LBS seemed to think it was okay, and it worked. My Kurt Kinetic has been great...no complaints.
2008-09-28 8:12 PM
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davhamm - 2008-09-28 5:38 PM  The problem with tires on a trainer is heat build up. the trainer surface heats up more than a road, cause you keep riding on it. and that heat transfers to the tire.

I know the tire gets a lot hotter on the trainer, but this explanation makes no sense.  Yes, the tire is on the trainer the whole time, but hopefully when I am on the road, the tire is in contact with the road the whole time as well. 

I use a riser block, a small hand towel and a fan (which never seems strong enough).  I usually have a dvd going as well, or an iPod with a magazine (but that seems harder to sustain than the visual distraction of TV).

2008-09-28 8:13 PM
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I bought a Kurt Kinetic that came with the trainer mat, riser block and computer.

A thick rubber trainer mat is a necessity IMO - for noise reduction, protection and keeping the buckets of sweat off my hardwoods. 

If you go with a Kurt Kinetic, the optional watt computer that attaches to your rear wheel and fairly accurately measures your power - useful training tool.

Spinervals/training DVDs or for that matter, and DVD of movies, television series - anything to keep you sane. Trainer miles are worse than treadmill miles. 

2008-09-28 8:34 PM
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gearboy - 2008-09-28 8:12 PM

davhamm - 2008-09-28 5:38 PM  The problem with tires on a trainer is heat build up. the trainer surface heats up more than a road, cause you keep riding on it. and that heat transfers to the tire.

I know the tire gets a lot hotter on the trainer, but this explanation makes no sense.  Yes, the tire is on the trainer the whole time, but hopefully when I am on the road, the tire is in contact with the road the whole time as well. 



But the road that tire is in contact with keeps changing. The trainer(road) is the same one, that little roller gets hot, hence why they have cooling fins on the trainer, but the roller still gets hot and so does the tire. Also the load on the tire is greater on the trainer, so the wheel does not slip more load more heat.


2008-09-28 8:55 PM
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davhamm - 2008-09-28 9:34 PM
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davhamm - 2008-09-28 5:38 PM  The problem with tires on a trainer is heat build up. the trainer surface heats up more than a road, cause you keep riding on it. and that heat transfers to the tire.

I know the tire gets a lot hotter on the trainer, but this explanation makes no sense.  Yes, the tire is on the trainer the whole time, but hopefully when I am on the road, the tire is in contact with the road the whole time as well. 

But the road that tire is in contact with keeps changing. The trainer(road) is the same one, that little roller gets hot, hence why they have cooling fins on the trainer, but the roller still gets hot and so does the tire. Also the load on the tire is greater on the trainer, so the wheel does not slip more load more heat.

My trainer gets hot, but not hotter than black asphalt in the summer in South Carolina.

2008-09-28 9:06 PM
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I burst a tire on my trainer. I had it at about 120 psi, in the hot garage in the summer, and was cranking right along. Felt a thump thump thump just before the thing blew.

I went to computrainers website and bought a "Trainer Tire" I dont know what type of rubber it is made out of but it has been on my trainer wheel ever since.
2008-09-28 10:40 PM
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If you are using a trainer tire, you probably don't need a mat. If you are using a regular or old tire, you'll end up with black rubber dust in your carpet, but you don't need a special mat. A towel under the back wheel or and old sheet works.

I use an old text book or two under the front wheel instead of a block.

Since I only have one road bike and try to ride through a good section of the winter, I have a second wheel. I had been using a cheap tire, but it needs to be replaced this winter and I'll be picking up a conti trainer tire. I'm hoping to also pick up a set of studded tires for my mountain bike and use the trainer a lot less this year.
2008-09-29 12:25 AM
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i have a kurt kinetic road machine and i love it.  i've had it for almost a year.  i use a phone book in the front and i have an extra yoga mat that i place under it to catch the black rubber bits.  i use a hand or dish town over my aero bars.  nothing fancy, except the trainer. 
2008-09-29 10:05 AM
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A mat of some type under the trainer is probably a good idea.  When I got mine, rather than buying the $40 mat specifically for bike trainers, I just hit Target and bought a cheap yoga mat that I didn't mind getting beat up.


2008-09-29 10:52 AM
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If you have an extra rear wheel, use that one as a trainer wheel.  I spent the money to get a trainer tire (thicker and doesn't squeal). 

Just use some old towels to absorb the sweat.  I put one on my top tub and wrap one over my aero bars so I can still see my PM readout. 

I recommend getting a risor block because you can use it to adjust the height of your front wheel to simulate climbing, etc.  YES, you can use a phone book too, but when I come out of the saddle to "power up a hill", I don't want to slide off of it. 

I really like my 1-up btw.  And, if you wait until you attach the roller to the wheel to pump it up, you will get a tighter fit and it will squeal less.

2008-09-29 11:12 AM
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For risers I use a phone book and biology text book

 I have a trainer tire but never use it because too much of a hassle and time to put it on and off when I ride outdoors.

 You MUST have a fan, tv, and or radio....ok that's a joke. Enjoy the sweat fest.

2008-09-29 12:06 PM
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I just put an old sheet under the trainer/bike set up then throw it in the wash every now and then. Also use a small towel to wipe up the sweat...
2008-09-29 12:23 PM
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has anyone ordered the unit from bikesport. How do I know that its the Road Machine before I order it?
2008-09-29 12:37 PM
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jrubin80 - 2008-09-29 1:23 PM has anyone ordered the unit from bikesport.

Yes many have.

How do I know that its the Road Machine before I order it?

call them, number is on the website.



2008-09-29 12:40 PM
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Thanks! Called, verified, ordered. I was gonna start the ebay/craigslist hunt for a good used fluid, but never thought of this for the price. Sweet deal, thanks guys
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