Drastic Increase in bike time/miles
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2008-09-30 9:52 AM |
Expert 828![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesI've read frequently that it is important to slowly ramp up the running time/miles and understand the reasons for, and ramifications of doing so too rapidly. My question is, What about the bike? Does this slow progression apply? I'd like to hear thoughts on how fast you guys/gals think miles can be added for long rides.... I can easily go ride 50 miles now but I haven't done really long rides in a year. I have a 140 mi. fund-raiser coming up in 3 weeks (same ride that my avatar pic comes from).....Suggestions on how hard to hit it b/t now and then??? Thx....Scott Edited by Rad-Onc PA 2008-09-30 9:53 AM |
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2008-09-30 10:00 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
Member 381![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesI don't know the conventional wisdom for this one, but my opinion is that you can ramp up distances on the bike much more quickly. I tend to ramp my long ride by 30 minutes each week. It seems the critical factor for me is that I tend to bonk towards the end of long rides once they get to four hours. That is what limits my progression rather than fear of injury. I find I can extend my rides by thirty minutes each week without fear of having to call home for a ride. |
2008-09-30 10:16 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
Expert 2555![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesIt's somewhat amazing that people plan to do longish events, then think they can wait until a few weeks out to start training. Kinda like cramming for a test. The difference is that the body typically doesn't respond like that. However, it is what it is and the best you can do at this point is to start getting in some biking mileage. Maybe a daily 10-15 miler and a longer ride on the weekends 50-70 miles. If your event is some sort of charity thing you will likely have the opportunity to get off your bike at numerous aid stations. Take advantage of that to stretch out some, especially your neck and back. The legs may be able to handle the mileage, but the neck and back can get really sore when they haven't been properly adapted to long rides. Have fun! |
2008-09-30 10:19 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
Regular 204![]() ![]() BA, Oklahoma | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesI cannot cite you a source, but I have read that the 10% increase per week rule that applies to running does NOT apply to biking. I think the rule is in place to keep your body safe and adjusted to all the pounding that runs inclficts on your joints. Biking does not have that same effect, so, as long as your bike is properly sized and fitted to you, you should be ok. Edited by toader 2008-09-30 10:22 AM |
2008-09-30 10:23 AM in reply to: #1705999 |
Expert 828![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesDonskiman - 2008-09-30 10:16 AM It's somewhat amazing that people plan to do longish events, then think they can wait until a few weeks out to start training. Kinda like cramming for a test. The difference is that the body typically doesn't respond like that. However, it is what it is and the best you can do at this point is to start getting in some biking mileage. Maybe a daily 10-15 miler and a longer ride on the weekends 50-70 miles. If your event is some sort of charity thing you will likely have the opportunity to get off your bike at numerous aid stations. Take advantage of that to stretch out some, especially your neck and back. The legs may be able to handle the mileage, but the neck and back can get really sore when they haven't been properly adapted to long rides. Have fun! Have fun I will!! But there is only so much fun to be had after the 100 mile point.... It isn't as if I have not done anything. I do a fair amount of short, hard rides, about 25 miles averaging about 20mph....I've done a lot of those over the last 8 months. My time is just usually very limited and it prevents me from the 4 and 5 hour rides I used to do....I have to admit that I did just jump on the bike for this ride 2 years ago with zero training. I made it 85 miles and literally could not turn the pedals one more time....and yes, my neck was sore for a week...You bring up a great point there... I figure I will do a couple of 60 mile rides. One this Sat. then one next Friday...then I am just going to spin my legs 3 or 4 times in the week leading up to the ride...thx. Edited by Rad-Onc PA 2008-09-30 10:25 AM |
2008-09-30 10:33 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
Expert 3324![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() central Iowa | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesMy guess is that your neck, back, and seat will be screaming at you by the end. But hey it's for charity right? |
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2008-09-30 10:37 AM in reply to: #1706067 |
Cycling Guru 15134![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesIt all depends on your overall cycling base. If you have been doing it a long time, then you can usually get away with ramping it up hard. For my IMLP build I went from doing at most 40 - 50 mile rides right up to 4 consecutive weeks of 100+ mile long rides with a few shorter mid week rides thrown in. I guess you could say I jumped about 200% or so in one week and just held that ........ |
2008-09-30 10:42 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
Master 1718![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Loughborough, England | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesIf it were me I would ride as much as possible in the next two weeks, with the emphesis being on long rather than hard/fast. That then gives you a week to back off slightly so that your legs are rested for the 140 miles. |
2008-09-30 10:43 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
Pro 3883![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Woodstock,GA | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesSince cycling is low impact you can get away with ramping up a bit faster than running. As a general rule you can also ride 20-30% longer than your longest ride (i.e. if your longest ride is 50 miles then ~70 or so shouldn't be a big jump). I am assuming that your 140 miles are over two days? If that is the case then you should focus more on recovery between the rides. |
2008-09-30 10:54 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
Member 297![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesI think a sudden large increase in your cycling volume is typically not going to harm you, assuming you have good form and provide your body with the necessary hydration, calories, and electrolytes. I've done 24 hour races and the Tejas 500, as well as completed an 11,000 mile tour in five months, so I have some background with high volume riding. I say go for it. Matt CazalasTechnical Writer
Edited by sbrstlouis 2008-09-30 10:56 AM |
2008-09-30 11:01 AM in reply to: #1705896 |
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2008-09-30 12:32 PM in reply to: #1705896 |
Veteran 691![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesI just did the MS ride to the Jersey shore. While part of my training for IMFL was to do this with limited stops, the ride back was much more laid back. If it's for charity, you can stop, refuel, socialize and get it together. Which ride is this btw? Go and have fun. |
2008-09-30 12:55 PM in reply to: #1706124 |
Expert 828![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesRocket Man - 2008-09-30 10:43 AM I am assuming that your 140 miles are over two days? If that is the case then you should focus more on recovery between the rides. 2 days? Nope. Actually, the 140 miles is over about 10 hours total time including stops every 25 to 30 miles and a lunch break of about 30 min. Actual pedal time the last 5 years has been 7 1/2 hours give or take a few min. It was slowed to 8:15 by a cold headwind and rain 2 years ago...The mantra is "we maintain 18mph"...kind of a joke like "the checks in the mail"... Inevitably it ends up at 22 or 23 mph for stretches and people get irritated. Then the bigger hills near the end really slow it down... |
2008-09-30 8:34 PM in reply to: #1705896 |
Fishers, IN | Subject: RE: Drastic Increase in bike time/milesIt's one thing to cover the distance its another thing to cover it fast. If you are just doing it to do it without regard to pace, go for it. You can go 70-80 next weekend then 100ish then 140. You will have a sore hind end and be happy to get off that bike I assure you. A few years ago, my first year of riding, my longest ride was a 70 miler then I did a 165 mile ride at a fairly good pace across the state. I had a pretty decent base mileage just no long rides. In the end the feeling was much like my first marathon, a new appreciation for glycogen. Drink lots and get your carbs as you go. At that distance nutrition becomes a big factor. |
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