Reverse vs. Regular Tri
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2009-02-07 9:26 PM |
Master 1281 Long Beach, CA | Subject: Reverse vs. Regular Tri In two weeks I'm doing my first reverse sprint, after having done 8 regular sprints. Do any of you have any tips that have done reverses? I'm worried about blowing my legs out on the run. How does biking feel after running? How is the transition to swimming after having just biked and run earlier? Would love any and all advice! Thank you! |
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2009-02-07 9:40 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Champion 7233 | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri running after biknig is just like a duathlon, your legs are warmed up so you get up to speed better, just dont quite have the top end speed. swimm last, haha have fun with that;-) |
2009-02-07 9:43 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri I've done one reverse tri and I had a blast. Swimming is my strength if you could call it that. People were so tanked that I was having to swim under them to pass(pool swim). I think I passed 30 or so people in 400 meters. So if you pace correctly you should be okay. |
2009-02-07 10:10 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Regular 98 , Oklahoma | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri I've never had a problem biking after a run - actually feel like I can push myself much harder on the run and get a better time and not affect myself on the bike. To get ready to swim, the last few minutes on the bike I kinda sit up and let my HR normalize, then just go at a steady, but not all-out pace through transition. The first 100 yards or so will feel weird during the swim, but it will normalize if you don't try and go all out at the beginning. Best of luck, I actually like these reverse sprints. |
2009-02-07 10:11 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Champion 5781 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri I've done one and wasn't a big fan...but then I'm really a runner first and not being able to just blow it out in a puke-inducing anaerobic kick at the end of the race sort of makes it less fun for me. Anyhow, I ran the 5K about 25 seconds off my PR pace (i.e., about 8 sec/mile slower) and was fine getting on the bike. Looking at my race report, I was 4th of 18 in my AG, so I'm pretty sure that was an okay pace for the run...basically, I ran it like I'd run an open 5K, but didn't kick to the finish, just held an even pace. The swim was a blur, really...kind of a mad dash to the pool--throwing helmet, sunglasses, and shoes on the ground in the TA--and jump in. Had someone swim over me at the crossover from one lane to the next (honestly, people, do we always have to turn tri swims into a contact sport...). I was pretty gassed and it was only 100 yds and I'm an okay swimmer. Most tri pool swims are comparatively short, though, so you kinda can suck it up and just get through it as fast as you can, knowing it'll be over shortly. Oh...and at this particular tri, they wanted you to have your bib number on you in the pool. I ended up folding mine up in a pocket of my tri shorts (long story) and showing it at the finish after the swim. |
2009-02-07 10:19 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Extreme Veteran 495 Denton | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri I think the transitions will be the most awkward part : ) I had to do a run-to-swim transition in a race a few weeks back and seeing a bunch of runners try to pull swim caps on and yank running shoes off while running through sand was truly hilarious (and I know I looked just as awkward as the next athlete). Assuming it's just a sprint distance, I wouldn't worry about it endurance-wise - just figure out how you're going to approach those transitions and have fun. |
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2009-02-07 10:28 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Regular 98 , Oklahoma | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri Personally, I wouldn't wear a swim cap especially if it is short distance. I never have, and my hair comes down to my low back. Yes it's a mess, but saves me time overall. |
2009-02-07 11:56 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Master 1281 Long Beach, CA | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri Thanks for the advice. I am a weak runner, but always go all out because I know it is last. I'm worried about using up too much energy on the run. I had a 5k last weekend where I ran hard...so hard I couldn't have done 12 miles of biking after. This will be tough. The transitions will be weird. I need to practice them ahead of time. Traditional transtions are like clockwork now, but I'm afraid these will be weird. I could never forgoe a swim cap! My hair is too thick and long. Plus, as an ex swimmer, it would drive me crazy. I'm not too worried about being too tired for the swim, since it is my strength. My biggest worry is being BOP so soon. I usually come out of the swim toward the front of the pack. During the bike I fall to the back of the middle of the pack and thoughtout the run I fall WAY to the back. I know that 5 minutes in, I'll be BOP right away! Yikes! Wonder what that will do to the self esteem! But, it will be fun to try something new! |
2009-02-08 7:28 AM in reply to: #1950945 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri I'm doing one at the end of March, but it is a mini, so only 1.4 mile run, 4 mile bike and 250 yard swim. I plan on being so far ahead of everyone by the time that I hit the pool that I could swim elementary back stroke and still win! |
2009-02-08 7:36 AM in reply to: #1951038 |
Master 1675 Suwanee, Ga. | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri sealiongirl - 2009-02-08 12:56 AM Yikes! Wonder what that will do to the self esteem! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just PM Rick.....I am SURE he has some extra that he can spare. |
2009-02-08 8:23 AM in reply to: #1950945 |
Expert 966 Decatur | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri did one once. not the biggest fan
but if you do it correctly, you will pass like 8-10 people in the pool. Here's how mine went. dead last on run. DEAD last. passed ~15 people on bike (got lots of cheers coming in) passed another 10 people in the pool.
not last! whoo! |
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2009-02-08 8:45 AM in reply to: #1950945 |
Master 1702 Southern Ontario | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri Ha ha! They had one here. The first year they called it the "Ordinary Man Triathlon". It was basically me and a bunch of police officers. (It's since been moved to a bigger venue with a regular setup.) We ran first, because they figured that if we ran we would be more likely to get in the water ... So it was Run - Swim - Bike. I stayed within sight of the leaders, then kicked it up on the swim/bike. (Running wasn't my forte back then....) |
2009-02-08 3:54 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Extreme Veteran 335 Herriman, Utah | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri Just don't do what I did - forget the goggles on T2 (bike-to-swim)...d'oh! That donned on me as I was running from the bike rack and nearly made it to the pool, so I had to run an extra hundred yards or so. Fun (not really). I had the same exact fear as you - I am a BOP runner, so I was at the tail end right from the get-go. It actually was less demoralizing since I wasn't passed up by a ton of people! Not that I get demoralized usually - but you know what I mean. The fun part for me was the bike. It's my forte (well, the least weak of my weak links) so I was able to pick people off one by one and ended up passing about 25 bikers, who were pooped out going up some hefty hills after a tough run. I also passed a person or two in the pool, got passed a time or two after retrieving my goggles(!), and had the same sense of satisfaction at the finish line as I did at any regular tri. Pace yourself and have fun. If you dislike the run, just think of it as eating your veggies before your dessert |
2009-02-08 4:01 PM in reply to: #1951516 |
Regular 102 Glendale | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri I'll be doing that race in two weeks. I was wondering how does it work if the swim is 400 meters - do they have 4 lanes so one has to swim down that lane then dive under the lane divider at the end of the pool to get to the next lane and so on? Sealion - maybe I'll see you out there - I'll be the one with the trisuit that says "Deaf Racer" on the back. |
2009-02-08 4:04 PM in reply to: #1951038 |
Extreme Veteran 591 New Port Richey, FL | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri sealiongirl - 2009-02-08 12:56 AM Yikes! Wonder what that will do to the self esteem! I find there's nothing better for the self esteem than continually passing people (as opposed to being passed more and more frequently as the run progresses). |
2009-02-08 4:24 PM in reply to: #1951524 |
Master 1281 Long Beach, CA | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri chowbisou - 2009-02-08 2:01 PM Sealion - maybe I'll see you out there - I'll be the one with the trisuit that says "Deaf Racer" on the back. I'll keep an eye out for ya! I'll have on black short, a gray t-shirt and an LA Tri club hat for the run (probably arm warmers too). Same except black bike shorts and a helmet for the bike. I'll be just in a black tri suit for the swim. Hope to see you there! |
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2009-02-08 4:26 PM in reply to: #1951528 |
Master 1281 Long Beach, CA | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri Meerkat Surprise - 2009-02-08 2:04 PM sealiongirl - 2009-02-08 12:56 AM I find there's nothing better for the self esteem than continually passing people (as opposed to being passed more and more frequently as the run progresses).Yikes! Wonder what that will do to the self esteem! Good point! Haven't had that before! |
2009-02-08 4:30 PM in reply to: #1950945 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri Practice some run/bike bricks...as it feels a bit different. If you haven't been practicing I might transition to bike ride after all my runs next two weeks. Don't go all out and be fearful about being last as that will hurt your overall time. Remember goal is to get to the finish line fastest. Tanking after to hard a run won't help you accomplish this. It is all about doing our best and having fun. Enjoy! |
2009-02-09 1:59 AM in reply to: #1950989 |
Veteran 175 Penn Valley, | Subject: RE: Reverse vs. Regular Tri btchance - 2009-02-07 8:28 PM Personally, I wouldn't wear a swim cap especially if it is short distance. I never have, and my hair comes down to my low back. Yes it's a mess, but saves me time overall. I thought swim caps were always required. Are they not required in a reverse tri?
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