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2009-02-24 1:11 PM

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I'm 36yr 6'5 and 250.  I went to the pool last week for the first time (swimming laps) in about 25yrs.  I was completely embarrassed at my performance.  I know I need lessons, but are there any exercises to help with endurance.  I tried to keep my head in the water but could not do it, which ment my butt went down into the water further.  I will be back at it tonight, so if someone cold give a few pointers I would appreciate it

 

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2009-02-24 1:39 PM
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mrtimbro - 2009-02-24 1:11 PM

I'm 36yr 6'5 and 250.  I went to the pool last week for the first time (swimming laps) in about 25yrs.  I was completely embarrassed at my performance.  I know I need lessons, but are there any exercises to help with endurance.  I tried to keep my head in the water but could not do it, which ment my butt went down into the water further.  I will be back at it tonight, so if someone cold give a few pointers I would appreciate it

 

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Dude:

I was 43 when I started this tri stuff. I hadn't swam (other than on tropical vacations/body surfing stuff) since I was 12. The first time I got into the pool I was crushed when I could hardly swim 25 meters without practically needing mouth to mouth!!!  I had done swim team way back then and had basic swimming skills but really needed help. SO, I took some lessons at my Y. Luckily there was just 2 of us in the class (for adults) so we had lots of one on one. I then did a clinic through our local tri club that helped with specific drills. Bottom line, there are NO short cuts to endurance. It is a matter of doing laps, laps and more laps. 

You'll be fine, just brush up on the basics and get some time in the pool. 

2009-02-24 2:03 PM
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Your endurance will come with time and if you're consistent with your training it can come pretty quick. When I picked up swimming again, 2 laps was a real challenge. Fast forward 3 months and I'm regularly swimming 1.5 to 2 miles in one shot.

Lessons are a great idea to help get your form set correctly before you build bad habits but endurance only comes with getting the pool and hitting up those laps. Try doing reasonable sets with rest and work your way up.

2009-02-24 2:19 PM
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last year i started back swimming, also.  I remember when 25 yard kicked my butt.  What help me, was remember to relax and flow with the water.  After that i went from struggling wit h100 yds, to 45+ min, non stop, almost over night.  OWS, that is a different story.

 

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2009-02-25 2:55 AM
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Ditto what everyone else has said.

Another thing to try is finding a "masters" swim group. It's "masters" as in "old people" not "masters" as in really good swimmers.

Most masters swim groups have ALL levels of capability and experience. Talk to the coach and start in the "slow" lane and move up as the coach tells you. If you've had swimming experience, you'll move faster than you imagine.

Swimming with a group is great motivation.

Good luck!
2009-02-26 12:12 PM
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Thanks everyone for the support and motivation.  I went swimming the other night and things went alot better.  I kept my head in the water for the most part, and lowered my 25yd swim by about 5 seconds.  I will be swimming 3 times a week, working on endurance and getting  in touch with a swim coach when we both have time to get together. 


2009-03-03 2:11 PM
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If its your fist time in 25 years dont worry. You prabably doing what all first timers do. They remember at the glory of child hood were your memory tells you you could swim full speed ahead for whats seemed like endless distances.

So you today you just jumped in the pool and went full gas for about a half lap. You wouldn't run a 5K at a Sprinters pace.

Relax in the water and slow way down.. the distance will come just learn to regulate your throtltle a little.

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2009-03-03 4:40 PM
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Just keep at it.  I had no real experience swimming at the beginning of the year.  I picked up a couple pointers, watched people that knew what they were doing, and now I'm regularly swimming at least 1500 yards without stopping.  That's in less than two months.  I've been swmming 2-3 times a week.  It'll come, don't worry!   Just keep at it!
2009-03-03 4:49 PM
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Get some good quality coaching. You will gain more by learning to swim correctly than just doing laps with poor technique. Learning to swim with poor technique means it takes longer to break those bad habits later...trust me I know about this.

I'm going on my 6th year of training and am finally after 5 winters of swim lessons improving. 

2009-03-04 10:28 AM
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mrtimbro - 2009-02-24 2:11 PM

I'm 36yr 6'5 and 250.  I went to the pool last week for the first time (swimming laps) in about 25yrs.  I was completely embarrassed at my performance.  I know I need lessons, but are there any exercises to help with endurance.  I tried to keep my head in the water but could not do it, which ment my butt went down into the water further.  I will be back at it tonight, so if someone cold give a few pointers I would appreciate it

Thanks

This looooooong post might help you out.  Best to print it out and read it over time:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=117554&start=1

Good Luck!

 

2009-03-04 11:53 AM
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BIGFuzzyDOUG! You're a stud! Thanks for the nuggets... I can't wait to hit the pool!


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Frazier1975 - 2009-03-04 12:53 PM BIGFuzzyDOUG! You're a stud! Thanks for the nuggets... I can't wait to hit the pool!

Wait until you can swim a mile, non-stop, in 25 minutes or less, before calling me a stud.  While I threw out the nuggets, it's the performance improvement on YOUR part that I'm most interested in!  Good luck!

Laughing

 

2009-03-04 1:13 PM
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for me, the bad thing about swimming is that if you take any time off, it seems SO hard to get back into it.  I get tired pretty easily...

BUT, the good thing about swimming, it doesn't seem to take long to get back into shape for it...

2009-03-04 1:49 PM
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Hey there, swimming is something you have to continuously do to get good at. The easiest thing to think of is "Long and Strong" , you will get tips on every little thing from hand postion to pointing your toes and having relaxed ankles. Try to swim clean "no bubbles" reach as far as you can and have your hand always come out by your hip. Start there and if you can think of that you will notice a huge difference even in a few weeks. Hope it helps,,,,Pete
2009-03-11 1:10 PM
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First of all, I would like to thank everyone that has given me some pointers.  I really appreciate it.  Although, slow, I have gone from 400yds to 1000 yds in a few weeks time.  I will meet with a swim coach probably next week, when her championships are done.  Until then, when you build endurance in the pool should I do nothing but endurance, or should I try speed drills, or both.  Right now I am doing 50 yds (4x) resting between each one then 25 yds resting after each one.  I am not worried about speed right now, just want to make it without stopping every 25 yds.

 

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2009-03-11 2:24 PM
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Tim, I would bet it's more about your breathing and less about your fitness. I think you're having to stop after 50 yards because because you're working too hard for the amount of O2 you're getting.

Practice breathing drills in the shallow end without swimming. Bend at your waist and put your face in the water and grab the edge of the pool.

1) While your face is in the water, breathe out gently through nose and mouth the entire time
2) After a few seconds, rotate your head just far enough to get a breath (don't lift your head)
3) Repeat many times on either side (or both sides)
4) After you get this down, add in some gentle arm movements (pretend swimming) and link these to your breathing

Note: You should be able to do this drill for as long as you like, if you get winded, you're doing something wrong. Make sure to take just the air you need, don't over-breathe. Also, you should be breathing in or breathing out the entire time you're swimming, no holding breath at any part of the stroke.


2009-03-11 2:39 PM
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I've just started training for my first tri (YAY!) and I am doing two swim sessions a week.  One is a short swim and the other a long swim.  So... my question is:  Should I be more focused on distance or on the amount of time spent?  And, how does that work when breaking it up between speed on my short swim and endurance on my long swim?

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