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2009-03-05 10:51 AM

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Subject: Upcoming Swim Challenge - the 6000 club

I've always been a pretty good swimmer. I've got a pretty strong background in the field, but received a good awakening when I joined the local Master's Team. My times have dropped, distance increased, and overall ability is a huge plus. No complaints.

Well the coach seems to have some form of challenge every few months or so to keep in interesting and give us something to strive for. Great!

His latest challenge is the "6000 Club". He's going to hold the challenge every 3months or so. It will consist of 60 x 100 on 2:00 send offs. It's all or nothing; no partial credit. After each challenge, the names will be reset and you have to earn your spot on the wall each time.

Now, going through my logs, I'm swimming 2800-3500yrds 3x per week generally in 65-80mins and have been doing so for a few months now. But, the 6000yrd has me a little nervous

Some of my latest TT - 1:25/100, 1:29/100, 1:32/100, 3:20/200, on Feb 18.

Is it even reasonable to think I could essentially double my distance in the same time, with only 3mo under my belt? Is it reasonable to even think that my training is at a point to try this, or should I hold out for the next one? I'm thinking I ought to hit the pool a little more than just Masters for some practice, so should I throw in a series of 100's for practice?

I want to shoot for it, but I'm a little skeptical. Ideas?



2009-03-05 10:53 AM
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What's there to lose? You get to 50 and blow up? That's not bad, sounds like a good workout!
2009-03-05 11:09 AM
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2:00 sendoffs?  Dang, I wouldn't even make 5 right now.  Sad . . . .
2009-03-05 11:23 AM
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smilford - 2009-03-05 11:53 AM What's there to lose? You get to 50 and blow up? That's not bad, sounds like a good workout!

Agreed.  It's worth trying.  

When I did workouts like this when I was on swim team, one of the important things was pacing.  In your case, I might shoot for 1:45 - 1:50/100.  You get a little bit of rest and you won't be too tired.
2009-03-05 11:24 AM
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That would make for a long workout...

For me, I would probably start with 15" of rest by swimming easy, but I'm sure that would slow down to a continuous swim after about 4000 yards...  Yikes.

I bet I could do it if I treated it like a race or challenge, and not just another workout...  But that would be the longest swim I ever did by about 1200 yards....  I would have to look to see If I ever did 5k before...



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2009-03-05 11:33 AM
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you must have a patient coach if all he does is sit at the end of the pool and blow his whistle every 2 minutes for 2 hours.


2009-03-05 11:53 AM
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BRinSM - 2009-03-05 11:33 AM you must have a patient coach if all he does is sit at the end of the pool and blow his whistle every 2 minutes for 2 hours.

One time deal. I mean, he has patience and all, but he doesn't mull around very much. Usually he's on the deck pacing watching for strokes, making corrections, checking in w/ everyone, and keeping up with our time trials. Quite the busy man.

 

2009-03-05 11:57 AM
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I'm a swimming newbie as well, but that sounds like a cool challenge to me. Anything to keep it interesting.
2009-03-05 11:58 AM
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BRinSM - 2009-03-05 12:33 PM you must have a patient coach if all he does is sit at the end of the pool and blow his whistle every 2 minutes for 2 hours.

Whistle? That's what pace clocks are for. Workouts like that are just good excuses for coaches to go sleep in the office.

Back in the day, we uswed to have new year's eve workouts where we would swim the new year in 100s on 1:10.

So... 84x100 on 1:10.

Fun stuff.

Now...you kids...get offa my lawn!

2009-03-05 11:59 AM
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dpeeples - 2009-03-05 12:57 PM I'm a swimming newbie as well, but that sounds like a cool challenge to me. Anything to keep it interesting.

That's funny...to me, there is absolutley nothing interesting about repeat 100s.

2009-03-05 12:10 PM
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dpeeples - 2009-03-05 12:57 PM I'm a swimming newbie as well, but that sounds like a cool challenge to me. Anything to keep it interesting.

That's funny...to me, there is absolutley nothing interesting about repeat 100s.



I wrote that because I really enjoy running and biking, but swimming just seems completely boring to me. 60 X 100 might look like it sucks, but it doesn't look boring (to me, anyway).


2009-03-05 12:12 PM
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I have to say thats pretty crazy to say the least.  Im good for like 8-10 or so.
2009-03-05 12:20 PM
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meh, I think it's a good challenge for yourself.  Not up to you to excite other posters with your swim workouts

My coach recently blogged about finally reaching her milestone...  100 x 100 on 100 (seconds, 1:40).  yowza........

most I ever did was 40 x 100 on 1:40 for coach's 40th birthday.  It's interesting the watch the progression and when the second wind comes on



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2009-03-05 12:21 PM
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Here in Boston a pro triathlete/coach does 100 100s on New Years Eve...for 10K yards. They set up lanes by pace and send off times. I have no desire to do such a thing but the paces would be to fast for me if they did.

Go for it...if you have the desire.

2009-03-05 12:39 PM
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Do ya get a t-shirt?
2009-03-05 12:40 PM
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smilford - 2009-03-05 11:53 AM

What's there to lose? You get to 50 and blow up? That's not bad, sounds like a good workout!


Agreed ^^^

Why not? What is the worse that could happen, you have to wait three months to try again?

What is the rest interval between 100's? I am not getting the 2:00 send off thing. You have to do each 100 in 2:00 or under? Whatever you swim under 2:00 is your rest period. Meaning, you swim in 1:30/100, you get :30 of rest?


2009-03-05 12:40 PM
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docrust - 2009-03-05 1:39 PM

Do ya get a t-shirt?


If a T-shirt is on the line, then DEFINITELY do it!
2009-03-05 12:45 PM
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Coldfire - 2009-03-05 12:40 PM

Agreed ^^^ Why not? What is the worse that could happen, you have to wait three months to try again? What is the rest interval between 100's? I am not getting the 2:00 send off thing. You have to do each 100 in 2:00 or under? Whatever you swim under 2:00 is your rest period. Meaning, you swim in 1:30/100, you get :30 of rest?

Yea, the pace clock will be set for 2:00. You swim your 100yrds. If you finish in 1:40, you get a :20 rest interval. If you finish in 1:59, well you catch your breath and go again.

Basically there will be 120mins to do the event in. Finish it or not.

Going back, part of me really wants to do it, just to try to see where I am. To have a challenge. But the other part of me really doesn't want to get in the way and keep the guy/gal behind me from making their splits.  I'm thinking of trying it at least. Success is built upon many failures - right?

Oh, and no tshirt for it. Just your name on the wall. That's it.

I already got a tshirt for the Polar Bear Challenge (place in the top 10 among swimmers for Jan-Feb).

2009-03-05 12:55 PM
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Coldfire - 2009-03-05 12:40 PM

smilford - 2009-03-05 11:53 AM

What's there to lose? You get to 50 and blow up? That's not bad, sounds like a good workout!


Agreed ^^^

Why not? What is the worse that could happen, you have to wait three months to try again?

What is the rest interval between 100's? I am not getting the 2:00 send off thing. You have to do each 100 in 2:00 or under? Whatever you swim under 2:00 is your rest period. Meaning, you swim in 1:30/100, you get :30 of rest?


Yep, that's right. Very doable is you can cruise at 1:30. Chris coach doing them on the 1:40 would be a solid challenge.
2009-03-05 1:10 PM
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i'm going to do it tomorrow, will let you guys know how it goes.

i feel like i am in for some sore shoulders.
2009-03-05 1:27 PM
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This past Sunday, my main set was a 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100 pyramid (total 3,600 yd) with send-offs on multiples of 2:00 per 100 (2:00 for 100, 4:00 for 200, 6:00 for 300, etc.) and using a pull buoy for the odd # swims.  I've got to admit that coming back down the pyramid I was struggling to make it by the next send-off for some of the swims, but the ones I pulled weren't too bad.  I could maybe make it pulling, but to do that for a full 6,000 yd swimming would probably rip my arms off.

I say go for it!



2009-03-05 1:40 PM
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run4yrlif - 2009-03-05 10:58 AM

BRinSM - 2009-03-05 12:33 PM you must have a patient coach if all he does is sit at the end of the pool and blow his whistle every 2 minutes for 2 hours.

Whistle? That's what pace clocks are for. Workouts like that are just good excuses for coaches to go sleep in the office.

Back in the day, we uswed to have new year's eve workouts where we would swim the new year in 100s on 1:10.

So... 84x100 on 1:10.

Fun stuff.

Now...you kids...get offa my lawn!

Heh. That was our workout too, first one of the new year. We had a little more leeway, my last one was 85 100's on 1:20.

Still ended up swimming the last 3k or so straight...

John 

2009-03-05 1:56 PM
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dang, that sounds pretty cool. i would go for it.
2009-03-05 2:18 PM
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Coldfire - 2009-03-05 12:40 PM

Agreed ^^^ Why not? What is the worse that could happen, you have to wait three months to try again? What is the rest interval between 100's? I am not getting the 2:00 send off thing. You have to do each 100 in 2:00 or under? Whatever you swim under 2:00 is your rest period. Meaning, you swim in 1:30/100, you get :30 of rest?

Yea, the pace clock will be set for 2:00. You swim your 100yrds. If you finish in 1:40, you get a :20 rest interval. If you finish in 1:59, well you catch your breath and go again.

Basically there will be 120mins to do the event in. Finish it or not.

 

Do you have to stop each 100? Can you bank time? Suppose you do 500 without stopping and happen to hit the 500 at the 1:50 mark but want to rest longer than 10 secs? Do you have to go when the 2:00 mark is reached no matter what?



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2009-03-05 2:26 PM
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mrbbrad - 2009-03-05 12:18 PM
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Coldfire - 2009-03-05 12:40 PM

Agreed ^^^ Why not? What is the worse that could happen, you have to wait three months to try again? What is the rest interval between 100's? I am not getting the 2:00 send off thing. You have to do each 100 in 2:00 or under? Whatever you swim under 2:00 is your rest period. Meaning, you swim in 1:30/100, you get :30 of rest?

Yea, the pace clock will be set for 2:00. You swim your 100yrds. If you finish in 1:40, you get a :20 rest interval. If you finish in 1:59, well you catch your breath and go again.

Basically there will be 120mins to do the event in. Finish it or not.

 

Do you have to stop each 100? Can you bank time? Suppose you do 500 without stopping and happen to hit the 500 at the 1:50 mark but want to rest longer than 10 secs? Do you have to go when the 2:00 mark is reached no matter what?

Yes.  (at least that's what XXX on the X:XX means in general swimming terms)  Otherwise, it's not 60 x 100.  If you need to rest longer than the interval, you can't do it yet

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