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2009-03-30 10:26 AM

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Subject: Job satisfaction or training time

I am debating sacrificing my job satisfaction for more training time.  The new job I have now is just alright.  I am a software developer and they are really far behind in technology.  I don't have many opportunities available to me since good paying tech jobs are far and few here in Augusta.  My commute is 10 minutes or so but I am unhappy with what I am doing and it is a constant battle to get them to move forward.  I have another job offer that pays slightly more and the work would be far more interesting but the commute is 1 hour one way.  So basically I can suffer and have more time for training or take a new job but lose training time.  This sickness of triathlons makes us do some strange things.



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2009-03-30 10:31 AM
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Yeah I know exactly what you mean.  My current project is pretty boring and leaves me lots of free time to train (there's a pool and indoor track here) so I get a lot of time to train at work.

But it would be nice to have more work to do during the day to keep things interesting.

2009-03-30 10:32 AM
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Pays "slightly" more?  Is the "slightly" going to offset your expense to commute 2 hours a day?  Consider too your time.  Is it worth 2 hours of your time at whatever your current hourly rate would be if you divided out your salary etc.?

 

2009-03-30 10:36 AM
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Big Mac - 2009-03-30 11:32 AM

Pays "slightly" more?  Is the "slightly" going to offset your expense to commute 2 hours a day?  Consider too your time.  Is it worth 2 hours of your time at whatever your current hourly rate would be if you divided out your salary etc.?

The pay increase would cover gas expenses plus some to spare but not anywhere close to my bill rate if I were doing consulting work.  I would ahve 2 more weeks of vacation at the new place though.

2009-03-30 11:17 AM
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If I were in your situation I would ask myself the following: Given that the company I work for is behind the times technologically, how long do I think my current job will exist and how marketable will I be when it goes away? If the answer is "not long and not very" then I would probably be seeking new employment asap. I'm not saying to take this job offer, but I'd definitely look for something else.

I think life is too short to be unhappy in something that you do 40+ hours a week.
2009-03-30 11:58 AM
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For me, my job allows me to train and pretty much do what I want outside of work.  In general, I'm bored at work, but I'll take that any day.  Paycheck is there and the reason I have a job is so that I can afford what I do outside of my job.

But I am weird like that.



2009-03-30 12:32 PM
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Marvarnett - 2009-03-30 11:58 AM

For me, my job allows me to train and pretty much do what I want outside of work. In general, I'm bored at work, but I'll take that any day. Paycheck is there and the reason I have a job is so that I can afford what I do outside of my job.

But I am weird like that.



That's pretty much how I am. This job blows donkey balls, but it allows me the time to train and it pays for me to do things I want outside of work. Once tri season is over I'm going to start looking for another job, but I'm stuck here until October at the earliest.
2009-03-30 12:40 PM
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csharp1171 - 2009-03-30 9:26 AM
but the commute is 1 hour one way. 

For me, no job exists on the planet for which I'd sit in a car 10 hours/week. That's 9% of your life (assuming 8 hrs sleep/day).
2009-03-30 12:48 PM
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JBrashear - 2009-03-30 12:32 PM
Marvarnett - 2009-03-30 11:58 AM

For me, my job allows me to train and pretty much do what I want outside of work. In general, I'm bored at work, but I'll take that any day. Paycheck is there and the reason I have a job is so that I can afford what I do outside of my job.

But I am weird like that.

That's pretty much how I am. This job blows donkey balls, ...

Well, I certainly wasn't a recipient of that.

2009-03-30 1:20 PM
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breckview - 2009-03-30 1:40 PM
csharp1171 - 2009-03-30 9:26 AM but the commute is 1 hour one way. 
For me, no job exists on the planet for which I'd sit in a car 10 hours/week. That's 9% of your life (assuming 8 hrs sleep/day).

 

Never thought of it like that... werid!

2009-03-30 1:44 PM
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breckview - 2009-03-30 1:40 PM
csharp1171 - 2009-03-30 9:26 AM but the commute is 1 hour one way. 
For me, no job exists on the planet for which I'd sit in a car 10 hours/week. That's 9% of your life (assuming 8 hrs sleep/day).

what if you drove a cab for living?



2009-03-30 1:55 PM
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I could probably just stay where I am and lose my job skills as long as the company doesn't go under.  They could manage to stay in business for as long as Microsoft supports classic ASP which will probably be for some time.  They are just really so far behind and they have put it off for so long that it almost seems like they can never move ahead.  Throw in the fact that "the site works right now" arguement and they just don't feel an urgency to convert to a modern language.  Driving for 2 hours a day doesn't sound fun but feeling satisfied with what you do counts for something. Before I started doing triathlons I wouldn't have thought much about it but throw in a 30 mile bike ride after work you start to appreciate the spare time.

2009-03-30 1:58 PM
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If you end of liking the job could you move close to it?

Often time in a car is great downtime. You can listen to music, books on tape, call friends that you never get a chance to.

I agree - a commute sucks (and I am blessed to work from Home). However enjoying some downtime in the car 10 hours per week is a WHOLE lot better than disliking your job 40+ hours per week.

2009-03-30 2:01 PM
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Wolff27 - 2009-03-30 1:58 PM If you end of liking the job could you move close to it? Often time in a car is great downtime. You can listen to music, books on tape, call friends that you never get a chance to. I agree - a commute sucks (and I am blessed to work from Home). However enjoying some downtime in the car 10 hours per week is a WHOLE lot better than disliking your job 40+ hours per week.

Great way of putting it.

Also, keep in mind, how much does disliking your job affect other areas of your life?

2009-03-30 2:04 PM
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condorman - 2009-03-30 2:44 PM

breckview - 2009-03-30 1:40 PM
csharp1171 - 2009-03-30 9:26 AM but the commute is 1 hour one way. 
For me, no job exists on the planet for which I'd sit in a car 10 hours/week. That's 9% of your life (assuming 8 hrs sleep/day).

what if you drove a cab for living?

I think you would not be working hard enough if you only worked at your job for 10 hours/week.  Unless you made mad tips.  Oooo, ooo, I know - you target rich people and hold them hostage in the cab until they pay up!  Then you make your pay in 10 hours, leaving the rest of the time free to train!

2009-03-30 2:43 PM
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condorman - 2009-03-30 12:44 PM

breckview - 2009-03-30 1:40 PM
csharp1171 - 2009-03-30 9:26 AM but the commute is 1 hour one way. 
For me, no job exists on the planet for which I'd sit in a car 10 hours/week. That's 9% of your life (assuming 8 hrs sleep/day).

what if you drove a cab for living?


I'd quit yesterday.


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