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2009-03-30 4:35 PM


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Subject: Afraid of Sharks
I have my first Ocean Swim coming up soon. I saw Jaws as a kid and can't get it out of my mind. Should I be concerned? Or am I just being a pansy?


2009-03-30 4:39 PM
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Funny you should mention this. I have the exact fear for the same reason, damn movie! What makes is worse, I use to live in Florida and still won't go in the ocean!
2009-03-30 4:42 PM
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It depends... is it a phobia or just a conscious fear? As in, can you control it, or do you start shaking, sweating, and sh....ing at the thought of swimming with sharks?

 How much you should be concerned is really relative to how much the fear effects your performance. If you can get offer the fear, I think the sharks will leave you alone, for the most part.

2009-03-30 5:05 PM
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You really should be concerned. Sharks kill around 100 triathletes in races every year all over the world.
If I were you I would back out of that race.
2009-03-30 5:42 PM
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I didn't particularly like the idea of swimming out far into the ocean when I first started, and I still don't for training.  But when the race gun goes off, and there's 2000 other people out there, it all goes away.  Part of it is probably the odds at that point, and part of it is that it's a race.  I might not like being the last of the group. :-)  But in the middle, that seems ok.

The same thing sort of happens for me with riding the bike down hills "too fast."  Not in training, but race day is totally different.



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2009-03-30 6:12 PM
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Yes you are being a pansy....ha ha.  Of course you should not be concerned.  Do you know how many people are swimming in shark infested waters every minute of every day and doing just fine.  I am a former shark marine biologist and I can tell you that I also think about it but sharks are like any animal.   They are programmed to attack based on a few ques such as size, shape, vibration etc.  A human almost never represents these ques.  In very rare circumstances they are but does a pack of 300 triathletes trudging through the water sound like anything you would find in nature....no...therefore probablility of shark attack ....0  Then again If you go to South Africa and do the same thing during seal season ...probability of shark attack....100%i


2009-03-30 6:46 PM
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I have the same fear and live in SW FL. For whatever reason, as long as I know someone is with me or at least watching me from shore, I'm fine. But if I'm on my own, I panic. However, sharks have never stopped me from diving or snorkeling when I lived in the Cayman Islands. Then again, you could see straight down for 250ft. But seriously, when you're out with a pack of other swimmers, with kayaks/boaters following, you really have nothing to fear sharks. (Unless you live in Austraila...that's a who different eco system all together.) I've done over a dozen open water swims in Florida and the Caribbean and never had an issue. I won't train in the water alone, but I have no problem swimming in a group during a race. My biggest fear: jellyfish!!! Got hit by a Man O' War once and had to go to the hospital. Those things don't care at all about large splashy groups of people. I'd rather swim with sharks than jellyfish!!
2009-03-30 7:19 PM
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Fact:  When you enter the ocean, you enter the food chain.

 

I still say race.

2009-03-30 8:41 PM
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Trail_Runner - 2009-03-30 8:19 PM

Fact:  When you enter the ocean, you enter the food chain.

2009-03-30 10:38 PM
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I was never really afraid of sharks until I swam off the coast in Florida and about 4 sharks were trailing me. I am not kidding. I am now scared shi#less.
2009-03-30 11:30 PM
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cafenervosa - 2009-03-31 10:46 AM I  (Unless you live in Austraila...that's a who different eco system all together.)

Lol - So I did open water swims in Australia this summer...

 

To the OP - Its ok to be scared but realisitically in an event you are safe!



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energy7OMgirl - 2009-03-30 11:38 PM I was never really afraid of sharks until I swam off the coast in Florida and about 4 sharks were trailing me. I am not kidding. I am now scared shi#less.

I'm assuming you didn't get bitten...

To me, it seems like that should allay your fears, cause if they were dangerous, you'd have teeth marks.

 

2009-03-31 6:44 AM
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I'm more afraid of riding my bike than I am swimming in the ocean. Also I have heard that you have a better chance of being killed/injured by deer than a shark
2009-03-31 6:56 AM
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Just don't be the slowest person and you will be fine.


I can handle this if you want..... please read on!

Quint: Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad fish. Not like going down the pond chasin' bluegills and tommycods. This shark, swallow you whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', an' down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your tourists, put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's just too many captains on this island. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.
2009-03-31 6:57 AM
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Sharks do not want to eat you! The only reason they would bite you is if they mistake you for food. Triathlons usually scare away all the bait fish, so the sharks follow them. No worries....
2009-03-31 7:53 AM
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evomike1 - 2009-03-31 7:57 AM Sharks do not want to eat you! The only reason they would bite you is if they mistake you for food. Triathlons usually scare away all the bait fish, so the sharks follow them. No worries....

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fgoebert - 2009-03-31 1:12 AM Yes you are being a pansy....ha ha.  Of course you should not be concerned.  Do you know how many people are swimming in shark infested waters every minute of every day and doing just fine.  I am a former shark marine biologist and I can tell you that I also think about it but sharks are like any animal.   They are programmed to attack based on a few ques such as size, shape, vibration etc.  A human almost never represents these ques.  In very rare circumstances they are but does a pack of 300 triathletes trudging through the water sound like anything you would find in nature....no...therefore probablility of shark attack ....0  Then again If you go to South Africa and do the same thing during seal season ...probability of shark attack....100%i

 

Oh Crap - when exactly is seal season.................

I think about sharks EVERY time I am in the water.  I am terrified and I prefer swimming with my goggles fogged up a bit and in rough sea because of this.  Yes, odd I know.  I have once had a panic attack in the sea because I thought am sure I saw a shark, luckily it was in a race and I called the safety boat to come and get me.

But I do live in South Africa and sharks, including a Great White have been seen off our beaches.  In fact a Great White was spotted the day before we did a sea swim last month.  But saying all this, nobody has ever been attacked in our area and there are a LOT of us in the sea regularly.  Although I am terrified, you can get over it and sea swimming is now my favourite part of triathlons.  I try and get in the sea at least once a week, and now with Ironman coming up I have been OWS twice a week. 

I suppose there are things you can do to avoid attacks, like staying out of the water at dusk and dawn (or so I have heard).  Dont go swimming in the middle of a sardine run or near a seal colony.  But other than that....  How would you rather go?  Doing something you love or of boredom because you spent all your life on the couch?

I always thought I was safer in a group but lately the words "bait ball" seem to keep popping up in my head.  Especially after watching this video of a sea swim in Australia earlier in March..... 

 

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/Sharks-Hammerhead-Underneath-Swimmers-In-Surf-Lifesaving-Race-In-Sydney-Australia/Video/200903315242175?lpos=World+News_6&lid=VIDEO_1837063_Sharks+Close+In+On+Swimming+Race&videoCategory=World+News

 

2009-03-31 9:06 AM
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I get the same thing when I'm surfing, more because you are just bobbing out there in the water with nothing to think about.  I've only seen one once (a great white) and that was when I was on an Assault Ship (USS Duluth) and luckily not in the water.

 Is it an unreal phobia?  Yeah, but we all have them.  I have a major phobia of Mountain Lions when I go trail running or mountain biking.

2009-03-31 9:11 AM
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probability or not once you see a shark 2-3 ft next to you and you are 500 yrds from land.  you won't be so tough. 

2009-03-31 9:40 AM
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For me, as long as there are other people in the water with me, I'm ok.  BUT put me in the water alone and I can't swim at all.  I just keep looking all around expecting a shark to come out of nowhere.  Unfortunately for me, this also will happen in a pool.  Feel free to point and laugh now.
2009-03-31 9:46 AM
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trix - 2009-03-31 10:11 AM

probability or not once you see a shark 2-3 ft next to you and you are 500 yrds from land.  you won't be so tough. 

Depends on the shark. And really, if I can see it, my odds are pretty good. If you're gonna  be scared, you should be more scared about the ones you can't see.

Cause they are always there.



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I am a criminal defense attorney so when the other sharks see me they take off out of mutual respect.  Just swim near me and you will be fine.....
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doubleplay - 2009-03-30 5:05 PM

You really should be concerned. Sharks kill around 100 triathletes in races every year all over the world.
If I were you I would back out of that race.


This is misleading. Sharks don't kill 100 triathletes in every race. Sure, 100 racers get eaten in a few events, but that's pretty rare and in the longer distances. Usually, it's like a dozen racers get attacked by sharks in a triathlon, and that's an Olympic distance. It's less for a sprint.

I was surprised at so many fresh water sharks in the Chicago triathlon. The victims were too, ha, ha, ha!!
2009-03-31 10:15 AM
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Granted swimming like bait, and scuba are vastly different....

But, we dive around alot of big sharks, mostly without incident unless we are spearfishing.

Diving is more comforting because you can sit on the bottom and see them coming (mostly) and identify species and gather what risk you are in...

As others said, odds are pretty slim.

Remember you don't have to swim faster than the shark, just faster than the guy beside you

2009-03-31 10:23 AM
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I was in Maui when there was massive storm...the ocean literally turns red from the red dirt being dumped into the water from the flooding rivers. The next day I was going to do an open water swim down K'aanapali beach when the lifeguard (who I have known for years), asks me, "what the hell are you doing brother?" I told him about a 45 minute swim, and told me I was such a tourist and that I should stay out of the water until its blue again. Why, well the tiger sharks come in and eat everything that gets dumped into the ocean (racoons, skunks, feral cats), and its basically like chum. Tigers will eat dead things...unlike most of the big sharks, and they will come into shallow water to do it. I chose to stay out of the water, and that same freaking day a toursit got hit on the big island in Hawaii. She only lost about a bit sized chunck of her calf (in 4 feet of water).

With that said, the wife and I are planning open water swims next week down the same beach. I will have my head on a swivel!!!

It's irrational, but growing up in Santa Cruz and seeing Jaws, I'm terrified of sharks.
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