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2005-05-11 2:25 PM

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Subject: Don't you sometimes feel like going longer?
Lately, (I have been out of work), the 1/2 hour bike ride or run during the week seems so short. These are the workouts that I mapped out for myself, but I find myself wanting to go longer more like I do on the weekend around an hour. Anybody else start feeling good (or bad) and start wanting to push themselves harder?


2005-05-11 2:39 PM
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I always want to go longer. It's tough finding a partner to ride longer with me tho'. When I go solo I go for as long as I want.

2005-05-11 2:48 PM
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I always want to ride or run longer, but I have serious time management issues (a 12-14 hour work day is not uncommom). However, I try the best I can to stick to my planned workout. I do occasionally go longer (not too much) on the weekend if I feel good. In my novice opinion, I guess it would depend on what type of base training you had. If you have a solid base, maybe you could re-evaluate your current training program and up the hours. If you are still in your base, I would stick to the lesser hours. I am always cautious of over-training or burnout.
2005-05-11 2:50 PM
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I find myself wanting to go longer on the short workouts in the 16 wk Oly plan I'm doing, but by the time I finish one of the hardest training weeks I'm glad to get the recovery time. It seems to be pushing me about the right amount and forcing me to back off when I need to. If you're never getting the feeling that you're pushing yourself maybe you need to take your whole plan up a notch.
2005-05-11 3:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Don't you sometimes feel like going longer?
yup. and sometimes I did. But now I have a terrificly painful ITBand problem, and it is 4 days before my race. What I learned? Even if I feel good now, it could cause me to feel bad later...
2005-05-11 3:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Don't you sometimes feel like going longer?
Today, I wanted to run longer, but I had already biked an hour prior to my run.  I am reminded of the Suzuki method of violin instruction.  One "rule" in teaching a very young child is to have him stop practicing before he wants to stop.  That way, he is fired up for the next practice session and won't hate practicing (as much ).  I forced myself to stop today, knowing it was in my best interest to do so.

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2005-05-11 3:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Don't you sometimes feel like going longer?
Renee - 2005-05-11 1:39 PM

I always want to go longer. It's tough finding a partner to ride longer with me tho'. When I go solo I go for as long as I want.

Damn, I have the same problem and end up doing a LOT of solo riding. Wouldn't it be nice if we all LIVED in the same community? No one would ever be at a loss for a riding/running/swimming partner.

2005-05-11 3:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Don't you sometimes feel like going longer?
yea I always feel like doubling or tripling my bike lol but I do agree with the 10% rule so you don't get injured, etc.. b/c I have ventured out and pushed myself into not being able to run for a week which is worse than anything.. but if you don't want to go longer try increasing your intensity doing sprints for a lil while and slowing back to normal.. you'll be tired in the end if you go hard
2005-05-11 4:00 PM
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yea that's another problem.. your friends want to get into it and then they want to ride with you.. so your always pretty much stopping to wait for them to catch up
2005-05-11 4:14 PM
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the bear - 2005-05-11 1:33 PM
Renee - 2005-05-11 1:39 PM

I always want to go longer. It's tough finding a partner to ride longer with me tho'. When I go solo I go for as long as I want.

Damn, I have the same problem and end up doing a LOT of solo riding. Wouldn't it be nice if we all LIVED in the same community? No one would ever be at a loss for a riding/running/swimming partner.

No sh**. It's tough getting 'normal' people to want to go for long rides and whatnot with you on a regular basis.  You tend to get labeled as nuts. In fact, I called one of my friends last night and the first thing out of her mouth was "Oh hey, so-and-so and I were just talking about how crazy you are." Hmmm, great.

2005-05-11 4:17 PM
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kimj81 - 2005-05-11 3:14 PM "Oh hey, so-and-so and I were just talking about how crazy you are." Hmmm, great.

You probably get a LOT of that, don't you?



2005-05-11 4:29 PM
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the bear - 2005-05-11 2:17 PM

kimj81 - 2005-05-11 3:14 PM "Oh hey, so-and-so and I were just talking about how crazy you are." Hmmm, great.

You probably get a LOT of that, don't you?

Umm, yeah.

2005-05-11 4:33 PM
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Always have to remember alot of people are going to say your crazy or the body isn't meant for that.. oh that can't be good for you... usually from people who are lazy =X lol i've heard em all...
2005-05-11 4:47 PM
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Metalmasters2k - 2005-05-11 2:33 PM Always have to remember alot of people are going to say your crazy or the body isn't meant for that.. oh that can't be good for you... usually from people who are lazy =X lol i've heard em all...

These are my buddies, so they think I'm nuts in a good way. They are all very active, athletic girls and entirely capable of triathlons, they just think I train a crazy amount and am a little overboard on the dedication bit (though for this place, I'm commonplace... even a bit wimpy).

2005-05-11 4:48 PM
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Renee - 2005-05-11 12:39 PM

I always want to go longer. It's tough finding a partner to ride longer with me tho'. When I go solo I go for as long as I want.



I need to move to Tampa.

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2005-05-11 5:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Don't you sometimes feel like going longer?
I was under the impression (and it says this at the bottom of ron's plans.. the sprint at least) that the shorter sessions are for strenth and speed training. It specifically says...

Ron's 16 Week Sprint - Run Focused Plan
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* Speed workouts - Do these workouts on the 'short swims.' These workouts should include shorter swims with recovery in between but focusing on swimming fast (ex. 5 x 100s, then 10 x 50s)

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* If doing any speed work or training at a higher heart-rate zones, do them on the short sessions. Always keep your long sessions easy-going.


Now.. personally I don't feel like my base is strong enough to start these strengh sessions.. except maybe pushing the last 5 minutes of my runs to simulate finishing..

any thoughts on this??
Will


2005-05-11 5:24 PM
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Rollin' Thunder - 2005-05-11 4:48 PM
Renee - 2005-05-11 12:39 PM

I always want to go longer. It's tough finding a partner to ride longer with me tho'. When I go solo I go for as long as I want.

I need to move to Tampa. Mike

As my dear old dad used to tell me: "Be careful what you wish for. You might get it."

2005-05-11 5:42 PM
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Amen possum! My IM brother-in-law cautioned me about this when I was a bit less methodical and alot more gung ho. Stick to your plan, build 10% each week and roll back 40% one week a month for recovery.

I've found it works like a charm. I resist the urges to go faster (messin' with my HR and sending me into the anaerobic zone...) and longer... (building more than 10% weekly) and I've been injury free for 2 years... KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK on wood. I'm building slowly for my Half in September... and racing Sprints and Olys in between... so I've got a long season ahead of me... I don't want to be burned out or injured come August!

BUT, I do have to admit, I'd love to have you guys to work out with! I'm lonely alot of the time... People around here are either very recreational exercisers or crazy Lance Armstrong peloton bikers... there's no middle ground. I ride alone... (Is that a song???)

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2005-05-11 5:45 PM
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Whizzer - 2005-05-11 4:42 PM
I ride alone... (Is that a song???)


I ride alone..
with nobody else..
When I ride alone.
I prefer to be by myself..

Or something like that...

(It's actually "I Drink Alone")

or did you mean the part about no middle ground?

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2005-05-11 5:55 PM
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kimj81 - 2005-05-11 3:14 PM

No sh**. It's tough getting 'normal' people to want to go for long rides and whatnot with you on a regular basis. You tend to get labeled as nuts. In fact, I called one of my friends last night and the first thing out of her mouth was "Oh hey, so-and-so and I were just talking about how crazy you are." Hmmm, great.



Amen to that. I thought I was doing okay and had settled into a good cycling group for me until this spring when I dropped everyone 3 times on the first ride without meaning to and the local guru started referring to me as a hammerhead. It must be all the trainer workouts this winter. I'm hoping the guys get in shape enough to ride with me this summer! This is not a problem you can complain about to most people!

I also live in an area where an avid interest in endurance sports (especially for a woman) is considered a mild form of mental illness.


2005-05-11 5:56 PM
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Maybe it is "I drink alone..."

Hmmmm but we could say it's "I ride alone..." for our purposes here....

2005-05-11 6:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Don't you sometimes feel like going longer?
Oh I also get "your heart's going to give out one day, does that hrm tell you when that's going to happen?" I always ride alone except one particularily windy day a guy flew past me and I hopped on his back wheel for 5 miles.
2005-05-11 11:22 PM
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Whizzer - 2005-05-11 4:56 PM

Maybe it is "I drink alone..."

Hmmmm but we could say it's "I ride alone..." for our purposes here....



I think it's all good just as long as you don't drike WHILE you ride alone..

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2005-05-12 11:48 AM
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waskelton - 2005-05-11 10:22 PM

I think it's all good just as long as you don't drike WHILE you ride alone..

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