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2009-08-13 12:53 PM

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Subject: A tip on car keys while you're out there training
I know many of us will drive out for an OWS, a bike ride, or even a run. As such, it always becomes a question: what to do with the car keys. I have a tip, thought I'd share...

Most modern cars (2000+ GENERALLY), have what's called a chipped key. This means that in the head of the key there is actually a chip that communicates with the car to tell it that it's OK for the car to start. This prevents people from jamming a screw driver in the ignition and starting the or using an ill-gotten key to start it. The system is made up of the key (with chip) and the immobilizer in the car.  It's great for theft prevention but a PITA if you lose your keys. When you lose your keys in MOST cases, the car has to go to the dealer to have a new key made. You'd think that a locksmith could make a new key but the hitch is the CAR has to be programmed to recognize the key's chip. Without that, just buying a key (even if it's cut as a carbon copy of your original) is not going to work.

You can usually identify the chip if the key head is a little bigger than say your house key (flat metal) and it may show a little plastic cap on the bottom side (not all the time). Again if you have a newer car, chances are it has a chipped key.

Now for the tip: CHIPPED keys are required for STARTING the car, they are NOT required for simply unlocking the car, that's just a good old fashioned mechanical process (you know, stick key in hole...turn).

So, you can go to your local Home Depot or Locksmith and have them make you a copy of your chipped key, without a chip obviously (usually $2-3 or less). That will be good enough to unlock your car from the outside and open the trunk but won't start the car. That's the key you should carry with you when you're out there (lock the chipped key in the car). At a place like Home Depot they're probably going to try and waste your time explaining to you that they key they are making won't start the car...just let them know you understand and you just want to use it for the doors/trunk.

I usually lace the key into my shoe laces, there's no chance that baby is going anywhere but even if it does AAA can get me into my car and I still have the chipped key ready to go. Now, just don't leave the chipped key on your driver's seat. A little bit of discretion helps lol.

Hope this helps...

one small note: the car may crank for a split second without the chipped key, but I assure you it won't start for real (just for any nitpickers out there)




Edited by merlin2375 2009-08-13 1:04 PM


2009-08-13 1:56 PM
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Depending on what brand car you have the dealer may even be able to do a wallet key which is often small and plastic. Audi and VW do this not sure about other brands. This can actually be coded to start the car as well but if you don't need it to be programmed they can just cut it for you at the parts counter and be on your way. More then a locksmith or home depot but with side cut keys none of them usually have anything smaller than what is pictured there for the factory key in this case.

2009-08-13 2:06 PM
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Yeha my non chipped key is huge, they can be much smaller. Just had them in front of me so I snapped a quick pic
2009-08-13 2:49 PM
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This is genius! Thank you!
2009-08-13 2:51 PM
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merlin2375 - 2009-08-13 3:06 PM Yeha my non chipped key is huge, they can be much smaller. Just had them in front of me so I snapped a quick pic


Still tiny compared to most modern car keys with built in remote, bottle opener and cell phone.
2009-08-13 2:59 PM
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Many of the new chipped keys are a completely different style of key then many of the key makers have.  For my car I tried a dozen different places to get a key made for this exact reason.  No one had a blank to match.

It took a half dozen or so tries to find someone that could do my truck key.

Your best bet is to buy a car with a key-less entry system!!!


2009-08-13 3:03 PM
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JC5066 - 2009-08-13 3:59 PM
Your best bet is to buy a car with a key-less entry system!!!


Unless you have a Ford product with the keypad you'd still need to carry that key with you and it would have electronics so not great for anythign where it might get wet.
2009-08-13 3:24 PM
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I put my car keys in my trailer hitch (it has a rubber end cap that goes on).  It's insured and I don't think anyone is going to find the keys anyways
2009-08-13 3:36 PM
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Subject: RE: A tip on car keys while you're out there training

My car doesn't even have a "key"  its this plastic wedge I put  in the dash and then push a button to start the car.

2009-08-13 4:28 PM
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Socks - 2009-08-13 4:36 PM

My car doesn't even have a "key"  its this plastic wedge I put  in the dash and then push a button to start the car.



Usually has a key inside it to unlock the door or trunk if there is no power.

If there is an emblem on it for the manufacture try pushing on that and pulling at any seams will probably come apart and reveal a key.
2009-08-13 4:36 PM
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This is a great idea.  THe other advantage being that you can put a key like this in your pocket and do an OWS, which wouldn't work with my key which also has the door remote, etc.  Thanks! 

(can't believe I didn't think of this...)



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2009-08-13 5:39 PM
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My Mini Cooper has just a fob for the pushbutton start, but you can detach the key that will open and lock the doors.  I bought a lock that I can lock to my car door handle, and it has a compartment that I can lock the key in after I lock the car.  And it has a combination on it so I don't have to carry keys at all.  So far it's worked great!  The lock even has a rubber backing on it so it won't scratch the car.  I think it was probably made for real estate...

2009-08-13 6:25 PM
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I use this baby:
http://www.surflock.com.au/

Works like a charm.
Most cars have a link you can lock it to, behind the front wheel in the arch, if you don't like the idea of locking it somewhere obvious.

It's not only bombproof, but you can also hide it from view.
2009-08-13 6:37 PM
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I have been using the extra key for years. Had them in my walet just incase since I started to drive. One small word of caution with chipped vs non chipped keys. I have had the ability to use my non chip key to drive my car under the right circumstances. I have an remote car starter. Most of these use the "valet" key that came with the car because it has the chip in it to start the car, but not unlock the trunk. Anyways, when I use the remote starter, the car when warming up, is using the chip in the starter to keep the car running. If you put the backup key in the ignition before you step on the brake, you can drive the car with the non chipped key. In short, do not just leave the backup key in your car "because it can not start my car". It can still open it, the trunk and unlock the steering colum if it has already been started remotely. I have this bad vision of someone using my backup key, if left unsecured, to take the car. I know way too much credit to the would be thief, but the guys at my work on the other hand would love to mess with me if they knew they could.

2009-08-14 12:13 PM
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Subject: RE: A tip on car keys while you're out there training
when I go to the beach I hide my wallet, keys and $$ in my shoes; no one would think to look there .. Apologies to Seinfeld....


2009-08-14 2:07 PM
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My F150 and my girlfriends 4Runner has the keypad on the door....I only use that when doing OWS, otherwise I put my keys in my pocket
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