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2009-08-24 2:03 PM
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Not a fan.  I think they are cruel and should be banned.

Just my opinion.

(Aside from the fact that they would never work with my dog).


2009-08-24 7:15 PM
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We've had too many hound/hunting breeds that consider a bark collar a hindrance only if they aren't all that interested in what they're barking at. Pointers, chesapeakes, labs, walker hounds. If they think it's worth barking, they bark. Can't imagine they'd have felt any differently about running after the neighbors' cats. One zap and they're free to chase anything they want? They'd all have totally considered that a fantastic deal.

You'd need a pretty soft (easily trained, not willful) dog to get any reliability at all. And you'd still have problems with roaming strays, local kids in your yard, and other idiots who think it's okay to go in your yard to pet the "nice dog".

Also, if you get deer roaming through, why do you think the dog won't chase them?



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2009-08-24 8:01 PM
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My experience is that with any type of hound, especially sight hounds, they are worthless, no matter how much training is involved. 
2009-08-25 9:24 AM
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mdg2003 - 2009-08-22 1:09 PM I guess I should have been more specific too. We don't intend to put the dog in the yard unnattended 24 hours a day. We're looking at hound breeds and mixes and I know that would not work 100 percent of the time. I need a training aid to teach boundaries. I would like to be able to let the dog out in the backyard to pee w/o having to stand there with a leash. I know she will need constant supervision for the first few years when she goes out. We were able to train our last dog to stay within our yard and could leave her outside by herself for as long as she wanted to stay out. We moved to this house when she was 4-5 years old, but I'm pretty sure that would not have been possible when she was in her terrible 2s and 3s without the use of electricity! Thanks for the input everyone.


I was really skeptical when my parents made the investment for a 2 year old lab.  The dog is a ball of energy.  To make matters worse, we live in a kid friendly community and on a lake.  The dog loves both.  It is all about the training.  The dog learned her limits.  My dad would spend 15 minutes EVERY afternoon for about a month working with her until he got to a point where he could place a tennis ball or walk onto the pier without her darting across the line.  It works almost flawlessly now.  The dog stays out when they are at work and can be let out at night without the fear of her running off. 
2009-08-25 9:27 AM
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jldicarlo - 2009-08-24 10:47 AM
He might go through it 5 times a year and we are right there every time to take his collar off and walk him back through, while we shock ourselves in the process of holding the collar in the other hand.


And one of those 5 times a year your dog is going to get hit by a car.  Hope you can live with that.


Glad you have something positive to add to the conversation. 

In over 25 year, my parents have owned 3 labs.  The current one is the ONLY dog to ever be fenced.  The others roamed the neighborhood and lived outside.  NEVER did any of them get hit by a car. 

Hope you can live with that
2009-08-25 9:51 AM
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ell-in-or - 2009-08-24 7:15 PM

Also, if you get deer roaming through, why do you think the dog won't chase them?


 
 My last dog didn't. Deer establish a pecking order that is strictly adhered to. My last dog was #3 on that pecking order. She could run all but two of the local herd off the back yard, when she wanted to. She would not pursue them from that point. If she tried harassing deer #1 or #2, they would stand her down, by force if necessary. Meaning I won't be able to leave a new dog outside anyway as the possiblility for her to get hurt (in the yard) by the herd is real. Again, I'm not looking to use it as an exclusive means to keep my dog in the yard, but as a training aid to teach and establish boundaries.  


2009-08-25 11:18 AM
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ADollar79 - 2009-08-25 9:27 AM
jldicarlo - 2009-08-24 10:47 AM
He might go through it 5 times a year and we are right there every time to take his collar off and walk him back through, while we shock ourselves in the process of holding the collar in the other hand.


And one of those 5 times a year your dog is going to get hit by a car.  Hope you can live with that.


Glad you have something positive to add to the conversation. 

In over 25 year, my parents have owned 3 labs.  The current one is the ONLY dog to ever be fenced.  The others roamed the neighborhood and lived outside.  NEVER did any of them get hit by a car. 

Hope you can live with that


It is absolutely irresponsible of pet owners to leave their dog in any situation that they know their dog can reliably escape from.  Maybe your dogs were smart enough to stay out of the road, but most are NOT.  And I don't want to see anybody's dog killed because their owner was stupid enough to let it escape on a regular basis.
2009-08-25 11:52 AM
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