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2009-09-23 6:41 PM
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trishie - 2009-09-23 6:23 PM
bruehoyt - 2009-09-23 7:10 PM

slow moving athletes from waves that started before me walking through t1 and blocking the exit and mounting on the mount line in the center at full stop.  i haven't done it but i feel like yelling MOVE!!!  if you haven't come to race that isjust stay out of the way.


pardon for me for not doing a flying mount ! ... and perhaps I got to T1 before you because I beat you in the water, not because I started in an earlier wave. ... you never know.

I run through transition but I DO mount from a full stop, and, well, your peeve peeves me !

 

Yeah, that's kinda what I said.  That's how I feel about this thread.  I'll admit I've not read alll the gripes but many of the things that have been mentioned are just beginners being beginners. 

Everyone that is out there is not out there to win...and everyone that is out there is not out there just to have fun and enjoy the day.   This is the root of many of the pet peeves, that is, different paradigms. 

My goal out on the course is to have fun and stay out of everyone's way.  Some folks probably think they have more of a right to be there than other people but we all pay the same amount of money to race - whether we are there to win our AG or just finish and have fun. 

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2009-09-23 6:51 PM
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People who try to take my post-race bacon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2009-09-23 6:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Tri Etiquette - what are your pet peeves?
bruehoyt - 2009-09-23 6:10 PM

slow moving athletes from waves that started before me walking through t1 and blocking the exit and mounting on the mount line in the center at full stop.  i haven't done it but i feel like yelling MOVE!!!  if you haven't come to race that isjust stay out of the way.



Sounds like someone needs to swim faster. Laughing

My biggest one so far (taken from my last tri) is volunteers not at their post and allowing all-by-themselves-with-noone-to-follow poor, innocent competitor(s) to blow through intersections and not take the required turn.

Oh, and one comment on the swimming over people peeve.  As a FOP swimmer I don't get why, unless someone was *really* boxed in, they would choose to go over someone.  Moving 1 foot to the side and going around is much more efficient.

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2009-09-23 7:02 PM
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trishie - 2009-09-23 7:23 PM ... and perhaps I got to T1 before you because I beat you in the water, not because I started in an earlier wave. ... you never know.

um... no. pull up your race times and mine

and the question was what is my peeve - not sure why you can decide what is right or wrong for me to be peeved about?

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2009-09-23 7:07 PM
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sand101 - 2009-09-23 7:51 PM
Sounds like someone needs to swim faster. Laughing

my last race over 704 yards: 01m 19s / 100yards

your last race over 300 yds: 01m 34s / 100yards

Edited by bruehoyt 2009-09-23 7:07 PM

2009-09-23 7:19 PM
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This is actually really more of a BT pet peeve--people who ask "what's the rule about _____, and worse, people who reply "I think the rule is something like _____" and then get it completely wrong.

Seriously, the USAT rulebook is not that long, and it's online like 4 clicks away (or one, now).  If you're going to do triathlon in the US, even if it's just for fun, you should actually read the rulebook. 



2009-09-23 7:20 PM
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several of you have expressed your peeve about one of my peeves but have isolated one aspect and disrearded the rest of what i said <P>

it is a combo of these that others me walking + blocking+mounting on the mount line+ in the center+ at full stop

this is not a person who is sower - this is a person who is rude.  there is nothing wrong with stopping to mount - please read the full post before you lynch me next time.  others have talked about being blocked - maybe they weren't specific enough to get under your skin.

this is by the way my peeve - you don't ned to agree.

 i have not posted that you peeves are stupid.
2009-09-23 7:31 PM
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When you rack your bike in T2 do it in your own spot not someone elses.  Twice I have come back into T2 to find someone had racked their bike over my stuff and since I was at the end there was not space for my bike.  Yes they got their very expensive bikes shoved out of the way. 
2009-09-23 7:36 PM
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Gritty - 2009-09-23 12:19 PM Breaststrokers on the swim course and racers riding in the middle of the road ... two abreast ... talking to eachother ... at 14mph (Yes, my swim is that slow).




Seriously? I breaststroke about half the time. I trained hard, paid my money and if I do my best to stay out of the way of the faster swimmers...what seems to be the problem?
2009-09-23 7:38 PM
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Gritty - 2009-09-23 12:19 PM Breaststrokers on the swim course and racers riding in the middle of the road ... two abreast ... talking to eachother ... at 14mph (Yes, my swim is that slow).




Seriously? I breaststroke about half the time. I trained hard, paid my money and if I do my best to stay out of the way of the faster swimmers...what seems to be the problem?

No problem with that. It's the ones that stay to the inside and end up kicking other swimmers right in the gut... or worse...

2009-09-23 8:31 PM
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  • Spectators in transition area
  • clueless volunteers not keeping things and organized
  • Spectators ON the course
  • racers who do not know how to ride their bikes. I had a guy come to stop and fall over into me on a course with a steep climb because he couldn't  cope with the gear he was in. In another race I had a similar incident on a course with a very gradual climb on 3 loops. A racer couldn't maintain and swerved into me and I was pushed into another rider. Fortunately the other guy was experienced and we leaned into each to keep from falling. Not to mention all the other races with people on bikes doing all sorts of kooky stuff.

I have accidentally swam over someone. His feet were so low in the water I didn't seem him until I almost piggy backed him. I'm not fast or agressive in the water, it was just one of those things.



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bruehoyt - 2009-09-23 7:07 PM
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Sounds like someone needs to swim faster. Laughing

my last race over 704 yards: 01m 19s / 100yards

your last race over 300 yds: 01m 34s / 100yards

 

Lighten up Francis - it was a joke.  (Thus the smilie).

2009-09-23 8:37 PM
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bruehoyt - 2009-09-23 7:20 PM

several of you have expressed your peeve about one of my peeves but have isolated one aspect and disrearded the rest of what i said



it is a combo of these that others me walking + blocking+mounting on the mount line+ in the center+ at full stop

this is not a person who is sower - this is a person who is rude.  there is nothing wrong with stopping to mount - please read the full post before you lynch me next time.  others have talked about being blocked - maybe they weren't specific enough to get under your skin.

this is by the way my peeve - you don't ned to agree.

 i have not posted that you peeves are stupid.



Don't worry Man... some people just take offense to everything.
2009-09-23 10:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Tri Etiquette - what are your pet peeves?
bruehoyt - 2009-09-23 6:10 PM

slow moving athletes from waves that started before me walking through t1 and blocking the exit and mounting on the mount line in the center at full stop.  i haven't done it but i feel like yelling MOVE!!!  if you haven't come to race that isjust stay out of the way.



I think this has got to be one of my biggest ones as well. I've always been able to run past everyone to mount, but I've seen races where so many people are mounting right at the mount line there isn't much room for anyone to get through and noone is listening to the volunteers yelling at them to move further down before they mount.

I've also ran into the problem where people in front of me have crammed the entrance to transition after the dismount because they're walking in their bike shoes and it forces me to squeeze through, but somehow the fact that people want to haul on the bike and then walk through transition doesn't really bother me all that much...
2009-09-23 11:24 PM
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Broompatrol - 2009-09-23 6:31 PM
  • Spectators in transition area
  • clueless volunteers not keeping things and organized
  • Spectators ON the course
  • racers who do not know how to ride their bikes. I had a guy come to stop and fall over into me on a course with a steep climb because he couldn't  cope with the gear he was in. In another race I had a similar incident on a course with a very gradual climb on 3 loops. A racer couldn't maintain and swerved into me and I was pushed into another rider. Fortunately the other guy was experienced and we leaned into each to keep from falling. Not to mention all the other races with people on bikes doing all sorts of kooky stuff.

I have accidentally swam over someone. His feet were so low in the water I didn't seem him until I almost piggy backed him. I'm not fast or agressive in the water, it was just one of those things.



I'll deal with a lot during a race but spectators in transition bugs me. I watched a small child (maybe 2 or 3) get knocked over by a racer because they were allowed to play in transition. During the same race I watched spectators roam through transition and picking random gear asking out loud, "what is this for?" Um yeah ... that's a gel pack and they probably won't find it because you put it back in the wrong place.
2009-09-23 11:43 PM
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Broompatrol - 2009-09-23 6:31 PM

  • Spectators in transition area
  • clueless volunteers not keeping things and organized
  • Spectators ON the course
  • racers who do not know how to ride their bikes. I had a guy come to stop and fall over into me on a course with a steep climb because he couldn't  cope with the gear he was in. In another race I had a similar incident on a course with a very gradual climb on 3 loops. A racer couldn't maintain and swerved into me and I was pushed into another rider. Fortunately the other guy was experienced and we leaned into each to keep from falling. Not to mention all the other races with people on bikes doing all sorts of kooky stuff.

I have accidentally swam over someone. His feet were so low in the water I didn't seem him until I almost piggy backed him. I'm not fast or agressive in the water, it was just one of those things.

In their defense (having been there), volunteers frequently aren't given much of a clue by the race staff.  They usually show up, are given a t-shirt and a specific task (sometimes with adequate directions, sometimes not) and not much more direction than that.  They generally haven't been involved in the organization of the event, don't know anything about the big picture and usually don't have any way to communicate quickly with anyone who has.

So first of all set your expectations appropriately and give them a break, at least they showed up willing to help.  And secondly, it's incredibly valuable when experienced triathletes who already have a clue about how things work show up as volunteers. 



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We've gone to griping about beginner/novice mistakes to complaining about volunteers. 

Are they gonna server cheese and crackers with all the whine?

How about we focus on what is right about our sport instead of the petty little things that bug us? 

~Mike

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tjh - 2009-09-24 12:43 AM

Broompatrol - 2009-09-23 6:31 PM

  • Spectators in transition area
  • clueless volunteers not keeping things and organized
  • Spectators ON the course
  • racers who do not know how to ride their bikes. I had a guy come to stop and fall over into me on a course with a steep climb because he couldn't  cope with the gear he was in. In another race I had a similar incident on a course with a very gradual climb on 3 loops. A racer couldn't maintain and swerved into me and I was pushed into another rider. Fortunately the other guy was experienced and we leaned into each to keep from falling. Not to mention all the other races with people on bikes doing all sorts of kooky stuff.

I have accidentally swam over someone. His feet were so low in the water I didn't seem him until I almost piggy backed him. I'm not fast or agressive in the water, it was just one of those things.

In their defense (having been there), volunteers frequently aren't given much of a clue by the race staff.  They usually show up, are given a t-shirt and a specific task (sometimes with adequate directions, sometimes not) and not much more direction than that.  They generally haven't been involved in the organization of the event, don't know anything about the big picture and usually don't have any way to communicate quickly with anyone who has.

So first of all set your expectations appropriately and give them a break, at least they showed up willing to help.  And secondly, it's incredibly valuable when experienced triathletes who already have a clue about how things work show up as volunteers. 



the volunteers are, without a doubt, the most important people at a race.  they got up at the butt crack of dawn to go "water or heed" for 6 hours.  give them some love.
2009-09-24 8:38 AM
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My biggest pet peeves are whiners.  Suck it up.  Boo hoo, I was swam over.  People yell at me to move over but I think I'm over.  People are in my way and I can't get by.  Honestly, man the F up.  It's part of the event.  For anyone going long whining about that cr*p, try to act like the ironman label that you supposedly earned.  Basically, people are annoyed by everything.  Really surprising for a bunch of Type A OCD athletes...

I'm sort of half joking here...but there is some truth to this.

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One of my biggest is races that don't have designated rack spots and people racking their bike and intertwining their handlebars or pedals with yours. Thanks man, I need ANOTHER thing to worry about when I'm pulling my bike off the rack.

Oh yeah, and people who strip their wetsuit and leave it in front of YOUR stuff. Weak.

*edit* as far as getting swam over or passed... that's just part of the experience. HTFU.

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acumenjay - 2009-09-24 8:38 AM

My biggest pet peeves are whiners.  Suck it up.  Boo hoo, I was swam over.  People yell at me to move over but I think I'm over.  People are in my way and I can't get by.  Honestly, man the F up.  It's part of the event.  For anyone going long whining about that cr*p, try to act like the ironman label that you supposedly earned.  Basically, people are annoyed by everything.  Really surprising for a bunch of Type A OCD athletes...

I'm sort of half joking here...but there is some truth to this.



Right on!!!


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1. The word juju. What is that? Candy? Why can't you just use karma?

2. Wave starts where 29 and under men are in wave 7. Seriously, wave 7? I think i passed 5 different colored caps in this one. Btdubbs I didn't swim over one person. In between yes, contact no.

3. Trash, definetly annoying. I pick up 2-3 gel wrappers when i warm down on my bike.

4. The yelling of on your left thing- I came up on a group of riders 4-5 all over the road (in the forementioned wave 7 race) I yelled hold your line, passing on your left. One kid went off the road on the right. Felt really bad about that. Maybe next time I'll just sprint and silently fly by them all so not to scare them. But really i thought i was doing the right thing.

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OOOH! Just thought of one:

People who go into threads that ask for pet peeves, and complain because in that thread others are actually listing their pet peeves.

HTFU yourselves guys and skip the threads that ask for things you don't want to hear.

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I'm pretty much a go with the flow kind of girl, so don't let too much get to me. But, yeah, the littering burns me up. Besides being disrespectful, it's just stupid lazy.

And the only other thing that irritates me is when people don't drop out of the draft when you go to pass. One, it's against the rules, and two, it's just annoying. Trust me. I may be passing you up some small hill, but that's because I'm small and light. You will definitely pass me on the downhill (everyone does), and I will cede my spot to you. No problem.

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the bear - 2009-09-24 8:50 AM OOOH! Just thought of one:

People who go into threads that ask for pet peeves, and complain because in that thread others are actually listing their pet peeves.

HTFU yourselves guys and skip the threads that ask for things you don't want to hear.

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Spoken like a true disgruntled crumudgen who prides himeself in finding fault!

The subject is tri etiguette - what are you pet peeves.  There is a big difference in etiquette and complaining becuase someone can't make it up a hill and falls over or someone who can't swim the distance free style and has to dog paddle or complaining that the voluneteers that come to help the event are not performing up to your expectations.

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