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 2009-10-14 7:02 AM |
Elite  3495     SE |  Subject: Don't hate but for me there is no offseasonBrian embraces the offseason. Others have it forced on them by their coaches or family. I have a different philosophy about the "off-season" than some of you. Let's just call it the "non-tri season", because, this is when I get an edge over the other folks in my category who are chilling, reloading, and recovering. Admittedly, I have some pretty high motivation for improving that drives my training. Also, I have a fear of dying. I can rest when I'm dead, but now is the time to lay the groundwork for an awesome 2010 season. Overpreparedness is a virtue. Any of you all feel the same way? And yes Coach Dan, I'm trying to bait you. |
| 2009-10-14 7:39 AM in reply to: #2458529 |
Slower Than You 9566  Cracklantaburbs | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason I don't really have an "off season" since I do so many other things than tri. I just downshift a little and ramp things up again once the new year hits. MTB Hiking Tennis Soccer... |
| 2009-10-14 7:56 AM in reply to: #2458529 |
Elite 3683 Whispering Pines, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason d00d, my humble opinion you need an offseason to let your body recover a bit. doesn't mean you nest on the couch and watch TV while eating burgers all day. you can still workout. and it doesn't need to be 4 months long either. muscles develop micro tears that take time to recover. in fact, BT has an "Ask the Coach" article that talks a little about muscle recovery. http://beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1896 if you run your body hard all the time, you're going to rag it out! like i said, my inexpert, non profession opinion.  |
| 2009-10-14 8:00 AM in reply to: #2458569 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason bcart1991 - 2009-10-14 8:39 AM I don't really have an "off season" since I do so many other things than tri. I just downshift a little and ramp things up again once the new year hits. MTB Hiking Tennis Soccer... Actually, this IS your off-season. Nice Bait try Harvey! You body cannot physically keep a high sustained level and produce continually progressive returns. If that was the case then we would never need a recovery week in a micro cycle or a rest day for that matter. But also, mentally most people need a break to just catch up with family, life and get that 'desire' back. Recovery is where you get stronger. As a WHOLE, working on your limiter during the off-season is where most people get a leg up on their competition. Not by keeping at a high level for all 3 disiplines. In season it's hard to focus on one discipline because you need all 3. Take the opportunity to do it in the off-season. And that means the other ones will have to take a back seat. |
| 2009-10-14 8:25 AM in reply to: #2458529 |
Master 2485 Atlanta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason I can't say it any better than Dan or d00d but I will echo the part about needing a mental break, especially after you've been racing/training for a few seasons. As an aside, ever notice how few folks there are that have more than, say, 5 seasons under their belt? Triathlons have been going on for 30 years - What happened to all those folks doing them 20/15/10 years ago? Even on Slowtwitch, I would say the majority of people have less than 10 years experience. My point is without an offseason, burnout is a given, eventually. My $.02 |
| 2009-10-14 8:27 AM in reply to: #2458604 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason I think alltom1 makes a valid point about burnout. But I'd rather seek glory and then move on. Others may want/need this as a lifestyle. For a variety of reasons, I'm not after that. You may be and more power to you if you are. With all due respect to Dan, I'm still at it full steam for IMAZ 11/22 so this is not my offseason yet. And even if it were, I would not call it that. We may be just arguing semantics but I think its a valid point. Focusing on one sport is not the same as "off-season". It could be called the non-race season or the base building phase, but "off-season"? Yuck Rest and recovery days or weeks occur during the tri-season. Do we call them off-days or recovery days? Why must we call it "off-season"? I'm just not going to drink the Kool Aid. Whoever is responsible for the term was off base. From an individual basis, bodies and minds vary. My motivation and history are such that I don't want sustained time off from any of the three sports. I suspect some of you feel the same way and other disagree based on your profile. Experts develop models based on elites, not your everyday weekend warrior, etc. so the utility of the "off-season" model is not always appropriate. My background education is running, but even there they talk about periodization, consistency, and maintaining training structure. Even though they discuss taper/recovery, they don't preach "off-season". Edited by phatknot 2009-10-14 8:32 AM |
| 2009-10-14 9:56 AM in reply to: #2458529 |
Pro 3705 Vestavia Hills | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason As Coach Dan states, it is indeed that "off season" that makes you stronger "in season" ... just as you do not get stronger through the actually physical act of exercise but from the ensuing physiological recovery, you set up a successful season by mapping out an off season strategy. |
| 2009-10-14 11:19 AM in reply to: #2458868 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason here here to quality and quantity family time Brian. For me, i'd rather take the time away from work than from training. |
| 2009-10-14 11:42 AM in reply to: #2458529 |
Elite 2552 Evans, GA | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason The flip side is not allowing your fitness to dip too low after the tri season. I let my fitness go darn close to zero after both Ironman experiences. I'm starting a run based maintainence program and doing some fun running races over the winter. Core as well. |
| 2009-10-15 12:18 PM in reply to: #2458529 |
Master 1404 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason There is absolutely an off season for Triathlon, since it's not a year round sport, but for me, there is never an off season for running. I enjoy it WAY too much. To swim, bike, and run all year, would be pretty close to impossible. So the off season so to speak, is my running season. |
| 2009-10-16 11:48 PM in reply to: #2461260 |
Regular 99 Augusta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason atl_runner - 2009-10-15 12:18 PM There is absolutely an off season for Triathlon, since it's not a year round sport, but for me, there is never an off season for running. I enjoy it WAY too much. To swim, bike, and run all year, would be pretty close to impossible. So the off season so to speak, is my running season. i second Ron. Once my last tri of the season was over, I turn to a run focus...and will be run focused (with some bike/swim maintenance and shoulder PT) until Boston is over in April...then IM training...I actually enjoy all of this too much. And I don't have friends in Augusta, so who needs a social life? |
| 2009-10-17 5:49 PM in reply to: #2464356 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason run focus does not equate to offseason everyone |
| 2009-10-19 6:21 PM in reply to: #2458529 |
Member 14 | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason Wondering if most triathletes view the "off season" as race- off, not necessarily training- off...? I agree, though, that the fall and winter months may be a good time to focus on specific skills on the bike, or swim, and perhaps spend more time on ones weakest sport? Make sense... |
| 2009-11-27 5:02 PM in reply to: #2467671 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason ok, except for running a 5k yesterday with my daughter, I have been off since IMAZ on Sunday. This sucks. I want my offseason to be over NOW! |
| 2009-11-27 5:30 PM in reply to: #2458529 |
Elite 3658 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason Don't rush back at in to it Phat. It takes a long time for everything to get beack to normal. I'm 4 weeks out and I still am not 100%. I figured two weeks max. lol. |
| 2009-11-27 6:37 PM in reply to: #2533382 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason yes doug i hear ya, but i dont hear ya clearly haha |
| 2009-11-27 6:54 PM in reply to: #2533416 |
Elite 3683 Whispering Pines, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason phatknot - 2009-11-27 7:37 PM yes doug i hear ya, but i dont hear ya clearly haha lay off the booze! |
| 2009-11-27 6:57 PM in reply to: #2533425 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason |
| 2009-11-28 8:00 AM in reply to: #2533426 |
Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason phatknot - 2009-11-27 7:57 PM you got me, dood! BuT really, i need to get moving again. Don't be stupid. This year you dealt with an injury due to overuse. Why do you want to rush back and risk further injury. Let the body heal. If not, I will kick you in the nutz next time I see you |
| 2009-11-28 8:16 AM in reply to: #2533667 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason ADollar wrote: Why do you want to rush back and risk further injury? Training for IMFL starts today! Races are not won on race day ADollar; they are won today. I feel fine. There is no OFFSEASON haha |
| 2009-11-28 8:18 AM in reply to: #2533673 |
Master 1730 Atlanta, GA | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason phatknot - 2009-11-28 9:16 AM ADollar wrote: Why do you want to rush back and risk further injury? Training for IMFL starts today! Races are not won on race day ADollar; they are won today. I feel fine. There is no OFFSEASON haha I think you define "all in" |
| 2009-11-28 11:44 AM in reply to: #2533675 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason Carpe Diem! |
| 2009-11-28 12:10 PM in reply to: #2533673 |
Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason phatknot - 2009-11-28 9:16 AM ADollar wrote: Why do you want to rush back and risk further injury? Training for IMFL starts today! Races are not won on race day ADollar; they are won today. I feel fine. There is no OFFSEASON haha And you felt fine UNTIL mile 18 of a marathon. |
| 2009-11-28 5:24 PM in reply to: #2458529 |
| Member 42 | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason I don't...I hate you cecause you are beautiful. This year I did a year without an ON season. It's worked okay; train lightly, and race (short) at an okay level all year long (March - Dec). Last race of the "season" is Dec 12 offroad duathlon in Macon. If anyone is interested: http://www.active.com/cycling/macon-ga/dirty-dauset-duathon-resched... |
| 2009-11-28 7:01 PM in reply to: #2533844 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Don't hate but for me there is no offseason I really think there may be a age cut off, about this issue. The older you get the less time you got left. thus, the less time you want off. its a race against time, and we all lose that. |
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