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 2009-10-28 9:01 AM in reply to: #2483564 |
Champion  7595     Columbia, South Carolina |  Subject: RE: Running form question...Dream Chaser - 2009-10-28 9:50 AM Experior - 2009-10-28 9:46 AM JohnnyKay - 2009-10-28 9:25 AM Dream Chaser - 2009-10-28 9:20 AM Here is video of Caitlin Snow at LP '09. Go ahead in the video to 5 mins 25 seconds. If her stride is four feet, then the woman she is passing has a stide of six feet plus! The announcer even comments on her 'unusual running style'. But that unusual style got her a 2:57. Do the math. Figure out how many strides she would have to take to have a 3 foot stride. Try to run like that. lol. Cadence is around 250 in that case. Dream Chaser: Looks are VERY deceiving when it comes to video of fast runners. Watch some elite long distance runners on video some time. They are running roughly the speed that most normal people SPRINT. I've watched many, many hours of long distance running. My tivo is set to record any running event, so I've been watching and studying video for two years on a weekly basis of elite's running. Caitlin's style is rare and unusual, but it works beautfiully for her and may very well work well for the girl who started this thread. Many people, former pro's and analysts of triathlon have commented on her short quick strides, so it's not just me and it's not an illusion. I don't think anyone is saying that her stride isn't short compared with many others who run at that pace. (I can run 6:50 for a decent stretch, and I'm pretty sure that my stride is longer than hers.) But we are saying that no way is her stride 3 feet, or anywhere near that. Just out of curiosity, I watched the video. Unfortunately, it came across a bit choppy on my computer, but as near as I could tell, her cadence is in the mid 190s. So I'd say that Rick's calculation granting her a cadence of 200 gives a good lower limit on her stride length. |
| 2009-10-28 9:15 AM in reply to: #2483481 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Running form question... Dream Chaser - 2009-10-28 10:20 AM Here is video of Caitlin Snow at LP '09. Go ahead in the video to 5 mins 25 seconds. If her stride is four feet, then the woman she is passing has a stide of six feet plus! The announcer even comments on her 'unusual running style'. But that unusual style got her a 2:57. As has been pointed out, mathematically, her stride length needs to be close to 4'. Here are some numbers for your consideration: Runner 1 Runner 2 Turnover (steps/minute) 190 160 Finish Time (hh:mm:ss) 3:00:00 3:06:00 Pace (min/km) 4:16 4:24 Stride Length (m) 1.23m 1.42m So, what we are looking at is a difference of stride length of about eight inches; while this will look like a lot, it is most definitely not over six feet. Shane Edited by gsmacleod 2009-10-28 9:15 AM |
| 2009-10-28 9:16 AM in reply to: #2483583 |
| Subject: RE: Running form question... Daremo - 2009-10-28 9:55 AM Dream Chaser - 2009-10-28 9:42 AM Daremo - 2009-10-28 9:41 AM So?????? Exactly. Talk about stubborn. So please explain to the dumb kids in the class how it is that trying to copy people running so much faster than another person means ANYTHING at all to how someone else should run? Or perhaps in your infinite experience you know something that all the elite level running coaches don't seem to grasp? Because when I want to understand HOW to run better, I look at and read what they have to say. And when I want to understand HOW to ride better and faster I look to the top level cycling coaches. And when I want to understand how to swim better I look to the top level swim coaches. When I want to understand how to pull all of those things together and create a plan to make the best triathlete? I go to a tri coach. I do NOT go to them to get a better understanding of how each individual sport works. Dude, I never said I had infinite experience. And who are you calling dumb? Quit while your ahead. I personally strive to correct my form and look at people who are faster than me, whether they be a friend or an elite. It's worked for me. The girl who started this blog said she had a very short stride. I showed her video of a succesful tri-athlete who has an unusually short stride and is very succesful. It's that simple. You rant and rave and whine like an arrogant jerk sometimes.
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| 2009-10-28 9:26 AM in reply to: #2483647 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Running form question... Hmmm. I sense a thread pull soon. |
| 2009-10-28 9:27 AM in reply to: #2483645 |
| Subject: RE: Running form question... gsmacleod - 2009-10-28 10:15 AM Dream Chaser - 2009-10-28 10:20 AM Here is video of Caitlin Snow at LP '09. Go ahead in the video to 5 mins 25 seconds. If her stride is four feet, then the woman she is passing has a stide of six feet plus! The announcer even comments on her 'unusual running style'. But that unusual style got her a 2:57. As has been pointed out, mathematically, her stride length needs to be close to 4'. Here are some numbers for your consideration: Runner 1 Runner 2 Turnover (steps/minute) 190 160 Finish Time (hh:mm:ss) 3:00:00 3:06:00 Pace (min/km) 4:16 4:24 Stride Length (m) 1.23m 1.42m So, what we are looking at is a difference of stride length of about eight inches; while this will look like a lot, it is most definitely not over six feet. Shane Okay, I was way off in my guess. Way off. But the point is, regardless of the actual stride length, her strides are shorter compared to all the runners she picked off, and it works for her -- so a shorter running stride may very well work for laurie2829.
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