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2010-01-11 11:47 AM
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Can I / Should I, put a cumfy seat on my trainer bike?



Yes.  No.

x2 on the intervals.


Why not? Seriously. My skinny butt starts to hurt after about 45 minutes. 


2010-01-11 12:12 PM
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Detroit Dan - 2010-01-11 11:47 AM
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Detroit Dan - 2010-01-11 11:01 AM

Can I / Should I, put a cumfy seat on my trainer bike?



Yes.  No.

x2 on the intervals.


Why not? Seriously. My skinny butt starts to hurt after about 45 minutes. 

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're saying.  Do have a dedicated bike you only use on the trainer?  If so... why?  If not and you are just putting your bike on the trainer, why the need for another saddle?  If it hurts on the trainer, it'll hurt on the road.

Anyway, those soft cushioned saddles are actually more uncomfortable if you're doing more than cruising around the block a few times. 

2010-01-11 12:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Trainer-- How long do you ride?
My longest ride is a century on the rollers last January.  This year I am planning on one in January and one in February, and depending upon our wonderful global warming I might need to do one in March also.

Had to edit, because of a phone call.  I do this while watching DVD's.  Last January was "The Bourne Century".  I watched all three of the Bourne DVD's while riding and got my 100 miles in.  Not sure what this year will be.

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2010-01-11 12:36 PM
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flip18436572 - 2010-01-11 12:19 PM My longest ride is a century on the rollers last January.  This year I am planning on one in January and one in February, and depending upon our wonderful global warming I might need to do one in March also.


This is just sheer curiosity.  What gearing on the bike and resistance on the rollers would you use for a century?  Big gear on the bike and little resistance on the rollers?

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2010-01-11 12:39 PM
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My rollers have no resistance, but I will change the gearing depending upon how I am feeling and the movie.  When it slows down, I will sometimes slow down.  Car chase, I drop to gears and get my speed up.

When you get "snowed in" in Iowa, you just ride the rollers and watch DVD's.  Then later you go out and scoop a LOT of snow.

2010-01-11 12:45 PM
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sesh - 2010-01-11 12:12 PM  If it hurts on the trainer, it'll hurt on the road


I've found that's not really the case for me. When I was riding on the road, it felt world's better than my trainer did for the same amount of time. My man parts are very numb after even a 45 minute trainer ride. Outdoors, it takes about twice that.


2010-01-11 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Trainer-- How long do you ride?
90 minutes is pretty routine.  Two hours is no problem either.  Over that it gets tough and 3 hours is probably my limit I could manage.

To the OP, do you have access to spin classes?  Many times, I will ride about 30 minutes to warm up, then take a spin class, then maybe a couple more minutes to cool down.  That's a good way to get in up to two hours and not get too bored.

ALSO, my longer rides I have done at  home were in front of the TV.  I would watch saved shows or throw in a movie or two.  Another tip is to take a couple minute break every 45 minutes to an our to refill a water bottle and stetch the legs.  I think of it this way.  If I was outside, there are breaks at stop lights, or when I coast downhill or on the flats.  So taking a couple 3 minute breaks is fine during a 2-3 hour training ride.

Edited by Kido 2010-01-11 12:52 PM
2010-01-11 12:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Trainer-- How long do you ride?
Like the majority, I am in the 1-2 hour range as well. I think I went 2.5 once...it was dreadful.
I find the first 30-45 mins to be the hardest for some reason.

Also: I have heard (without any real backup) that 1hr on the trainer = 1.5-2hrs outside, and therefore you really dont need to be on there forever unless you are IM training. I think its mostly because you are constantly pedaling without any breaks whatsoever. Not sure of the truth to that, but it does make some sense.
2010-01-11 1:07 PM
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My longest is 6.5- but only during Ironman training. Right now, I am doing 1-2 hours. Wii is also helpful to pass the time, but it is difficult to aim appropriately if you are playing shooting games. Also:

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2010-01-11 1:13 PM
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I love riding most but find trainer rides like a very different sport than cycling outside.

I've done 3-4 hour trainer rides. It takes some time building up to longer trainer rides but just like all aspects of longer distance tri training the idea of going for 2-3 hour run or 5-8 hour bike ride seems strange in time we embrace it. I find it is mental and I've learned how to get into a mental zone/place that I just do what is required of me.

My coach this year longest I've ridden on trainer is just over an hour. But doing 40' broken up in intervals at my FTP hurts a lot compared to 3 hours of zone 2 easy riding on the trainer. Which will help me, I think raising my FTP so I find trainer rides my hardest workouts of the week..short but intense like others have mentioned above.

Every fall I think I'll sign up and do that Sebring 24 hour road race down in FL in Feb. as I want to try ultracycling. But after a trainer ride or two the idea of doing multiple 8-14 hour trainer workouts just doesn't appeal enough to me to sign up for that race...maybe next year
2010-01-11 1:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Trainer-- How long do you ride?
sesh - 2010-01-11 12:12 PM

Detroit Dan - 2010-01-11 11:47 AM
Experior - 2010-01-11 10:04 AM
Detroit Dan - 2010-01-11 11:01 AM

Can I / Should I, put a cumfy seat on my trainer bike?



Yes.  No.

x2 on the intervals.


Why not? Seriously. My skinny butt starts to hurt after about 45 minutes. 

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're saying.  Do have a dedicated bike you only use on the trainer?  If so... why?  If not and you are just putting your bike on the trainer, why the need for another saddle?  If it hurts on the trainer, it'll hurt on the road.

Anyway, those soft cushioned saddles are actually more uncomfortable if you're doing more than cruising around the block a few times. 



I don't have a dedicated trainer bike but I was thinking about swaping the seat out for a while.
I was just trying to see if I could ride longer and harder on a comfy seat. I never really understood the reason for a typical hard road bike seat and padding in the pants.


2010-01-11 1:17 PM
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KathyG - 2010-01-11 11:13 AM I love riding most but find trainer rides like a very different sport than cycling outside.

I've done 3-4 hour trainer rides. It takes some time building up to longer trainer rides but just like all aspects of longer distance tri training the idea of going for 2-3 hour run or 5-8 hour bike ride seems strange in time we embrace it. I find it is mental and I've learned how to get into a mental zone/place that I just do what is required of me.

My coach this year longest I've ridden on trainer is just over an hour. But doing 40' broken up in intervals at my FTP hurts a lot compared to 3 hours of zone 2 easy riding on the trainer. Which will help me, I think raising my FTP so I find trainer rides my hardest workouts of the week..short but intense like others have mentioned above.

Every fall I think I'll sign up and do that Sebring 24 hour road race down in FL in Feb. as I want to try ultracycling. But after a trainer ride or two the idea of doing multiple 8-14 hour trainer workouts just doesn't appeal enough to me to sign up for that race...maybe next year


Agreed.  Also, when you start getting in those times, the shorter 1.5 to 2 hour trainer rides actually "seem" like an easy/average day...  It's just perspective.
2010-01-11 1:31 PM
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Detroit Dan - 2010-01-11 1:14 PM
sesh - 2010-01-11 12:12 PM

Detroit Dan - 2010-01-11 11:47 AM
Experior - 2010-01-11 10:04 AM
Detroit Dan - 2010-01-11 11:01 AM

Can I / Should I, put a cumfy seat on my trainer bike?



Yes.  No.

x2 on the intervals.


Why not? Seriously. My skinny butt starts to hurt after about 45 minutes. 

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're saying.  Do have a dedicated bike you only use on the trainer?  If so... why?  If not and you are just putting your bike on the trainer, why the need for another saddle?  If it hurts on the trainer, it'll hurt on the road.

Anyway, those soft cushioned saddles are actually more uncomfortable if you're doing more than cruising around the block a few times. 



I don't have a dedicated trainer bike but I was thinking about swaping the seat out for a while.
I was just trying to see if I could ride longer and harder on a comfy seat. I never really understood the reason for a typical hard road bike seat and padding in the pants.

It's because you sit on your "sit bones."  The small amount of padding in the pants is serves a few purposes.  It gives a little cushion to the bones, helps wick away moisture, etc.  A big cushioned seat will actually increase pressure on perineum.  That'll make you go numb.

The main reason it feels more uncomfortable on the trainer is that you tend to treat it more like a seat than a saddle.  Your bike moves a good bit when you ride outside, and even without noticing it, you shift around on the saddle.  On the trainer, the bike doesn't move at all, so if you don't compensate by moving around some, you'll feel some discomfort.

2010-01-11 1:34 PM
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sesh - 2010-01-11 12:12 PM  If it hurts on the trainer, it'll hurt on the road


I've found that's not really the case for me. When I was riding on the road, it felt world's better than my trainer did for the same amount of time. My man parts are very numb after even a 45 minute trainer ride. Outdoors, it takes about twice that.

I should have been more clear.  I was meaning more pain than general riding discomfort.  Pain indicates a need for a different saddle or fit.  What you're talking about, and what I realize Dan means now is that the discomfort comes much quicker, and that's normal.  You've got to consciously move and shift on your saddle on the trainer since the bike doesn't move.  If you don't, you get the constant pressure and it'll lead to quicker discomfort like you're talking about.

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I recently broke through what for me was the 30min mental barrier and have done about 6 2h rides this winter, all in aero (as much as I can stand it), no music, no TV; just watching the seconds tick by.  The mental strain was such that I am breaking down and putting a tv back in the basement.

I hesitate to say this, but you know how sometimes you sleep on your arm funny and you wake up with it COMPLETELY dead and totally feeling-less?  It just flops around such that you have to use your other arm to grab it and throw it at the alarm clock in hopes of hitting the snooze.

Yeah, that happened to another appendage on the last 2h trainer ride.  Scared the crap outta me. I dropped the nose of the saddle 0.5cm and seems to have helped.  Dont want to do THAT again. (And no I didn't grab it and throw it at an alarm clock; sheesh...)

2010-01-11 3:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Trainer-- How long do you ride?
I had been doing 60 mins, but went 90 mins this past Saturday. It helped I made a totally new playlist for the ipod. I tried to stay aero but got up a few times, it helped my lower back. I could probably ride all day in front of a TV, but my wife has banished me to the basement by the heater and washer/dryer. I have to open the windows to stay cool. No way I am riding outside when its cold like its been, 22 degrees, frig that.


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