Dog Owners: Parks & Dogs Off Leash (Page 2)

gearboy - 2010-04-05 4:55 PM

ChineseDemocracy - 2010-04-05 7:38 PM

crusevegas - 2010-04-05 1:51 PM

1. If you are breaking the law DON'T do it.

2. When somoen has a dog off a leash  when I'm running my first thought is what are my outs and what can I do to protect myself if this dog attacks me,,,,,, I don't know the dog and I don't care that someone says he won't hurt you. I have to interupt my run to gauge my options.

3. Some children I know of have been attacked by dogs, yes the one's that have never attacked anyone and are totally freaked out by dogs and if they are un-leashed even more panic by this small boy.

4. Dogs are animals with instincts, runners will often trigger a prey or threat response in dogs.

You wouldn't care for my response if you were on the same running path as me with you dog offf the leash. 

Do the RIGHT thing!

Crusevegas, we are morphing into the same mind!  Agreement again. 

If there's a leash law, obey the law.

So I would be correct in assuming you two lovebirds never exceed the posted speed limit when driving?  Even when there is no cop around, or when most of the traffic is also cruising along 5-10 mph faster than the posted limit?

So you want to compare going 5 miles over the speed limint on the interstate with letting a pit bull run off leash on a urban pathway. That explains a lot of your thought process to me on some of your other post topics/ideas.

If you see me breaking any laws feel free to address those issues as you see fit.

I'll continue to do as I do when someone breaking the law infringes on my rights as a law abiding citizen.

If you don't exercise your rights and/or defend your rights you don't deserve them!

eta spillin and punctuatin

#1 was in direct response to the OP's concern about dogs off leash.

You highlighted the OBEY THE LAW but must have overlooked the few words before that that said "If there is a leash law"

If you feel you are above the law not much I can do about that, unless I see you.

Most of the dogs that have attacked or threatned me were "family friendly"  breeds.

You dog hasn't attacked anyone, YET!

I hope it stays that way while you continue to break the law.

graceful_dave - 2010-04-06 7:31 AM

ell-in-or - 2010-04-05 9:21 PM

bzgl40 - 2010-04-05 3:24 PM

brynn - 2010-04-05 2:40 PM  As a dog owner I HATE it when other dogs approach me off leash when I have my dogs. My shiba is leash-aggressive, which means when she is on a leash she will get snippy with your dog no matter how awesome and friendly your dog is. She weighs about 18 pounds so she could easily be hurt by another dog. So that is something to keep in mind too - not every dog or person out there wants to meet your dog, no matter how well behaved he is! I try hard to keep her away from other dogs when she is on her leash, but if the other dog is not on a leash there is only so much I can do.

This bugs the crap out of me as well.  I have a dog that is very dog aggressive and I can control him just fine when he is on leash but I can't control the other dog that is coming towards him.  I can guarantee a fight if that dog gets to mine.  I've seem my other dog chased after so many times with the owners yelling their bloody head off to the dog to come back and of course it never happens.  One lady freaked out so bad since apperently her dog is aggressive as well that it took a long time for my heart rate to settle back down again.  Can't imagine what it did to the dogs.  I am sure her screaming settled them down just fine.

If I am being responsible and have my dog on leash why can't you?  It's the law and my dog has a right to exercise as well.  Sadly I feel I cannot bring him out and I feel so bad about that.  He deserves to go out and walk down the side walk and sniff around and enjoy life as well.  And yes, we are training him to be less dog aggressive but that's not as easy as other dogs being on leash.  My other dog is getting plenty of run time however... 

I worked with my dog for years (unsuccessfully) on being not dog aggressive while on leash. (Never even tried off leash.) I always wanted to punch the crap out of the people who yelled at me from 100 yards away, "Heeeeeee's frieeeeeeeeeennnndlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" as their dog came running up on us. My dog was about 30 pounds and as a corgi, had no tail. Other dogs consistently took his lack of visible greeting tail-wag as aggression and would start a fight immediately. My dog learned that any dog running up on him was going to attack and not surprisingly started to act accordingly. I can't tell you how many 'friendly' labradors and even a golden or two (usually mellow softies for heaven's sake) I had to literally kick off of my dog while their owners were SO sorry their unleashed 'friendly' animal attacked mine. And then were greatly offended and mighty huffy when I mentioned that there is a leash law.  Because of those people we spent probably 6+ years only walking our dogs at 9pm at night. Do not be one of those people. Why should the rest of us not exercise our dogs at all or have to walk late at night because YOU can't believe that rules don't apply to you?

I'm tired of the belief that unleashed = uncontrolled. Responsible dog owners have control over their dog, off leash or on. Irresponsible owners have no control. Having your dog on a leash does not equal having control. Ever see a Newfie or other large breed dragging a person behind them? I have. I too hate when uncontrolled dogs approach my dog especially when she is leashed. She too is leash aggressive. That being said, all the naysayers continue to equate off leash with uncontrolled. This is not the case. Those dogs who were off leash and ran right up to you would do the same thing if they were leashed. They would just be dragging an irresponsible owner behind them. Even off leash my dog is never allowed to approach another dog. She sits and stays until she is released. I very rarely let her play with dogs I don't know, and never without first talking to the other owner. It pretty much comes down to if the other owner has the same level of verbal control over their dog that I do over mine, then I will allow my dog to interact with the other dog.

The problem is an approaching person doesn't know you, don't know your dog and has no idea of the control you have over your animal.

If there is a leash law, I would appreciate everyone obeying it.

NOBODY can guarantee that there won't be something that could trigger an animal to act in a manner the owner wouldn't imagaine.

If you love your animal protect it, keep it on a leash unless you are in a proper place to have it off leash.

@ Graceful Dave, another problem with "well behaved" animals off leash when other people see that they feel they have the right to do the same even if they don't have the same amount of control over their animal.

If there is a leash law obey it, isn't that what living in a civilized society is about?

FYI the OP was asking about dogs off leash, NOT the motor vehicle laws.

So if this is your position that if someone isn't perfect and pure, they have no right to state their opinion on a specific issue?

I think I've been pretty specific about directing my comments to the leash law, the topic of this thread.

Are you saying that if I've broken a speed limit law I have forfited my ability to comment on this topic or to confront a dog owner who is breaking the leash law?

If that's the case, I don't think there would actually be ayone who would be allowed to voice their opinion would there?

My thinking on that is people see someone breaking a law of this nature and then feel why should they have to obey it.

Fair enough on my not making the point clear enough, for the record, my comments are directed at the Leash Laws. Nothing more nothing less.

I'm probably overly passionate about this for a few reasons, the two dogs in Laughlin that literally attacked me bit a hole in my water bottle as I did the best to defend myself against them.

The two rotwillers that came after me on my bike until the ower was able to call them back.

The three dogs that came after me on a running path and the lady said it was my fault they were threatening me.

The poor little white fuzzy dog that came at me with what I believed was the intent to bite me and I kicked it, not something I'm proud of happy about but I wouldn't do anything different under the circumstances. The owner propmptly told me I was going to have to pay his vet bills.

The two little ankle biters along my regular running path and the owner who didn't think I should be there.

The lady who got mad at me for running in front of her house and her two dogs chased me about 3 blocks before they stopped, she was mad because she had to chase them and said if I wasn't running they wouldn't have chased me. (Ok this was kind of fun, cause I knew I could out run them and ran just fast enough so they would come along and the lady had to make an effort to come after them)

There were others as well on the bike, but those incidents are what have made me passionate about the topic and I do what I can to encourage those I meet to put there dogs on a leash.

There is a son of a friend of ours who was maulled by a "family friendly breed" and has been dealing with not only the physical trauma but a lot of emotional trauma as well. Him seeing a dog is bad enough, him seeing a dog off leash is equilivent to someone else having a loaded gun pointed at them by an angry man.