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2010-04-06 8:36 AM

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Subject: RPE question
I'm doing the 1/2 Iron training program. There are a lot of RPE 2-3 workouts but the RPE chart they have calls these "light walking" or walking and Z1. It doesn't make sense to have "light walking" in a run work out. You don't even get to Z2 until RPE 5 & 6. Seems way to easy. What gives?

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2010-04-06 9:00 AM
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Are you referring to the Beginner 1/2 Ironman - 20 Weeks - RPE?  I will be starting that same plan at the end of the month. 

 I really like the plan, but am not a huge fan of RPE training. I have been going over it with a fine tooth comb and making notes as I study it.  I have no intentions of "walking" during any of my training, so what I am doing is looking at my HR zones and adapting them to the RPE levels.  For the RPE 2-3 I will most likely be working in High Z2-3, etc.  In the program summary there is a RPE chart they provide for you to match up your HR with the RPE zones.  It may take some tweaking, but should work well.
2010-04-06 11:28 AM
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Tweak it to your strengths.

2010-04-06 2:12 PM
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Actually, RPE 2 is strong walk or easy run, easy conversation.

RPE 3 is somewhat easy, but can still hold a conversation.

RPE 2 and especially 3, then, is exactly where the vast majority of long-distance tri training should take place.
2010-04-06 2:29 PM
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TriAya - 2010-04-06 2:12 PM Actually, RPE 2 is strong walk or easy run, easy conversation.

RPE 3 is somewhat easy, but can still hold a conversation.

RPE 2 and especially 3, then, is exactly where the vast majority of long-distance tri training should take place.


Hmmmm. Most RPE charts i see look like the one I found on this site:

RPE Zone HR ZoneDescription
0 Z1Complete Rest
1 Z1Very easy; light walking
2 Z1Very easy; light walking
3 Z1Very easy; walking
4 Z1Still easy, maybe starting to sweat
5 Z2Starting to work just a little and you can feel your HR rise
6 Z2 UpperWorking but sustainable, able to talk in full sentences
7 Z3Strong effort; breathing labored, but can still maintain pace for some minutes without slowing.
8 Z4Olympic Distance Race Pace for MOP to FOP
9 Z510k effort – very hard
10 Z5+Z5+ = 5k effort and Z5++ = cannot hold effort for more than a minute or two. (almost maximal effort)


Based on this, I would disagree and say that "the vast majority of long-distance tri training should take place" at an RPE of 5 or 6.

What you recommend is described as "Very easy; walking."

2010-04-06 2:49 PM
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I was referring to the RPE chart for that specific plan, which I assume is the Bronze Beginner 20 Week HIM plan.

The categorizations for RPE and Zones are always slightly different depending on th source.


2010-04-06 2:54 PM
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peewee - 2010-04-06 12:28 PM

Tweak it to your strengths.



Unless I'm reading this wrong I will respectfully disagree.

Train your weaknesses, race your strengths.  So for example if someone is weak in running, they should be running more.
2010-04-06 2:59 PM
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TriAya - 2010-04-06 3:49 PM I was referring to the RPE chart for that specific plan, which I assume is the Bronze Beginner 20 Week HIM plan.

The categorizations for RPE and Zones are always slightly different depending on th source.


From the free 20 week RPE plan here on BT:


PEDescriptionBike HRRun HR
0Complete RestResting HR=Resting HR=
1Very Weak:
light walking


2Weak:
strong walk, very slow run, easy conversation pace


3Moderate:
easy run, begin to sweat, but can hold conversation throughout


4Somewhat Strong:
still easy, sweating a bit more


5


6


7Very Strong:
breathing very labored, but can still maintain pace for some minutes without slowing.


8


9Cannot hold effort for more than a minute or two

10Extremely Strong
(almost maximal)
2010-04-06 5:42 PM
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Subject: RE: RPE question
I was looking at the 1st chart  butthe 2nd one that is part of the Beginner plan makes more sense. Why do they have two? I think I'll stick to zones and assume RPE 2-3 is Zone 2. Thanks for the help!
2010-04-06 5:48 PM
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I was looking at starting this as well for an october him. Really are we supposed to be 'walking' ? Is that because these sessions are focusing on increasing your aerobic endurance? 

 

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don't walk 


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