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Bivalve, Maryland
United States
Nanticoke RIver Swim & Triathlon
75F / 24C
Overcast
Total Time = 2h 29m 10s
Overall Rank = 44/89
Age Group = 35-39
Age Group Rank = 4/6
Pre-race routine:

Lots of fluids. Lots of bathroom stops. A little eating (power bar) and some talking with the other swimmers. Found some guys who did and are doing Bay Swim so talked some about that.
Event warmup:

Light stretching. Not much else. Definitely less to do than before a tri. Decided not to bother with a warmup swim. Figured there's plenty of time for that during the race.
Swim
  • 2h 29m 10s
  • 5300 yards
  • 02m 49s / 100 yards
Comments:

I considered this a ridiculously bad race after seeing my time. Since hearing my wife tell me how many got pulled (~17 out of 89) and that people who finished prior to me say how bad conditions were, I now say it was a poor race.

Heading out of the jetty was the typical fun in a large pack, no kicks or swipes at the face. Hit the current at first turn and the first leg was tough but manageable. Second leg was where I drifted to far into the triangle by compensating too much for the current. Caught up to or was caught by another swimmer and we made it to the last leg's turn together. Got directions from the kayaker and had to use a fishing boat to sight on. Again, drifted out off the line and had to make it back. Made the turn back into the first leg and started getting hungry and stiff calfs. Seemed like small groups of people were just ahead but they had passed me while I was off course. Ridiculous. They weren't faster, just smarted open water swimmers. Second lap was tough. 1st leg took a while to finish. Rounding the turn I felt like I was cruising. I felt I had to sight every 10 breaths so I didn;t go off course again. It helped, but now i didn't get into any groove. Made it to the 3rd leg and was very hungry and frustrated since I knew I was way behind. Did I mention I forgot my f^%@$ watch? I got pushed third leg wide on this leg (again) and had to make a bee-line for the jetty. Got into it and had nothing left in the arms for a strong finish. Got into the lane we swam out on and some volunteer told me to swim to the right because of rocks. With the finish straight ahead, no way I'm swimming more than I need to. Got out, saw my wife, and saw the terrible finishing time. At least she made me smile.

Even with the rough conditions, I still should have done much better. I bet I swam about 3.5 miles. Sighting and countering the current did me in. I did fine (albeit slow) going into the current, but let the current and chop get the best of me. I used the sun to help but never got into a good rhythm to make up some time. I should have been smarter and taken it into account better.
What would you do differently?:

I had estimated that if the hand of God had made the river a pool, I'd make it out in about 1:30. 1:45 was a more realistic, good swim, nominal conditions finishing time. I figured 2:00 was my longest time I'd accept. But 2:30?

What would I do differently? Be smarter, trust my sighting more (I overcompensated) and deal with the current better.

The one plus to this performance was that it was a good learning experience. I'm doing the Bay Swim and was told this event's conditions was probably the most comparable. With this performance, I know what to work on.
Post race
Warm down:

quick shower and then devouring whatever food was left over.

What limited your ability to perform faster:

sighting, sighting, sighting.

Event comments:

Good race. Even though I didn't do the sprint tri, it looked like it was very well supported and organized. Looked like a great sprint to do if you're just getting into the sport. Reminded me of Pinchot.

Swim event was good too. I heard some complaints prior to the start about confusing bouys and limited number of boats or kayaks, but I didn't mind. The only thing I might suggest for next time is that the corner bouys be a different color from the intermediate ones.




Last updated: 2010-01-28 12:00 AM
Swimming
02:29:10 | 5300 yards | 02m 49s / 100yards
Age Group: 4/6
Overall: 29/89
Performance: Bad
Suit: Profile Design
Course: Double lap around inverted triangle with 0.4mile legs in Nanticoke River. Current was moderate to strong downriver while wind was blowing chop (~1-2') upriver.
Start type: Wade Plus: Waves
Water temp: 64F / 18C Current: Medium
200M Perf. Good Remainder: Bad
Breathing: Average Drafting: Average
Waves: Average Navigation: Bad
Rounding: Good
Post race
Weight change: %
Overall: Average
Mental exertion [1-5] 3
Physical exertion [1-5] 4
Good race? No
Evaluation
Course challenge Just right
Organized? Yes
Events on-time? Yes
Lots of volunteers? Yes
Plenty of drinks?
Post race activities: Good
Race evaluation [1-5] 4

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2010-05-03 9:29 PM

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Subject: Nanticoke RIver Swim


2010-05-04 8:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Nanticoke RIver Swim

Nice job Matt. Sounds like some tough conditions.  At least this should prepare you for the bay swim.

2010-05-04 12:29 PM
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Glad you finished too!!

I actually looked at the race numbers they issued, and thought there should have been like a hundred people or so. That's in line w/ the number of people from last year; but it definately didn't feel like that many people in the start. Wherever you heard 89 is probably right on. It's scary that only 61 finished. Maybe 11 people knew something we didn't about the weather causing the horrific current & didn't start?

I was truly disapointed w/ my time. Almost double what I did last year. Put all kinds of serious doubts in my head for the bay bridge in june.

Still valuable for a couple of reasons. I HATE wet suits; and learned that I can swim in water that cold w/o one. YAY! Also learned that it wasn't ill fitting wet suit filling w/ water; but a cheap rental suit, aimed at beginners who drag their butts while they swim. I might not be able to run to save my life, but I do swim flat at the water surface. The extra boyancy actually pulls my butt up, and makes my back arch unaturally; which is probably what caused the injury last year. Even w/ the better fitting suit this year, ditching it half way through the race is probably the only reason I didn't get another massive back strain this year.

Also b/c soooo few people finished, it turns out that there were only 3 people in my age group. So by default I won a prize of some sort. I emailed the race site to see what it was. I felt I had earned it after I was stranded out by the red coast guard boat for like 90 min on the third leg of the first lap. Searioulsy scared the hell out of me, I had to stop and have a mini panic attack. The guy working the race eamiled me back, and said that he swims the Bay Bridge ever year.

He actually said that, despite it being longer, that the conditions are easier. He offered to follow up w/ any questions I might have next week, when all the post race crap from this past weekend has been wrapped up. He was very encouraging to go ahead and at least try the Bay Bridge.

So I'll let you know what he says. In the meantime I'm going to keep doing the 4.5mi each weekend, and still boring (but less long) swims during the week. If what he says seems like I can still do the bay bridge, then I'll do it.

Mostly I want to KNOW I can do it w/o a wet suit temperature wise; for me at least after my third open water swim - there is no OTHER reason to wear a wet suit. Then I want to know if the current is better or worse, or what to look for in the weather forecast in the days prior to the swim that might affect it. Also I'm hoping that sighting will be easier w/ the bridge spans to stay between, maybe he can confirm that or at least tell me that it's not something I can rely on.

I think I might have seen you in the swim! Making the turn for the last leg of the triangle on the first lap, I was w/ a group of swimmers who asked a kayaker directions for where to go next. Then I got completely swept out towards the coast guard boat. I REALLY need to work on sighting I guess if everyone else in that group didn't get carried soooooo far out as I did. I was swimming for what felt like forever. I guessed it was 45 min, but probably wasn't that long. Just felt bad b/c I was frustrated and lost. But however long it was, it took me just as long to get back on course before I could even make progress towards the next turn.
2010-05-04 8:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Nanticoke RIver Swim
I have the same outlook on this weekend's swim, lots of lessons learned. Even with my expectations, I considered it purely as a warmup for the Bay swim so having my handed to me this time is better than in june. The numbers I got for participants came from the lin-mark registration site and the 61 or 62 finishers are from the results page. I hope they're correct.

Glad to hear to solved your back problem. There's nothing worse than back pain in any sport.

I'd love to hear any answers from that guy about the bay swim. I agree (and hope) that the sighting should be easier. My main concern is that the currents and chop will be stronger and we'll have to swim against it for 1-2 miles straight with no break.

Assuming bay conditions are relatively safe, I say do it. You've been working hard at training and have this past weekend's experience to help. Don't lose the race before you even try.
2010-05-15 12:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Nanticoke RIver Swim
Finally sent that guy an eamil w/ my questions. I tend to write a ton whenever I write anything, so I truly appreciate that he even read the book I sent him! I had 3 basic questions, and then spent like a page explaining why those questions, and asking if stuff I thought I learned from the race in the river was correct. I'll cut and paste the 3 questions and answers. If you want the longer explanations about stuff from the River Race I can give you that too - but given my longwinded tendency I'm assuming the basic questions and his answers are plenty.

Here you go:

1) what was the current in the River? The current was about 1 mph
 
 v what will the speed of the current be on the Bay on June 13th? About the same
 
2)  And What direction will the current be in on June 13th?
 
Most likely for the first half of the event the current will be going north and push you up the bay and for the second half push you south.  This means it will push you to the left and then to the right.  Make sure to pay attention to the pre-race meeting, they will review the tides (but the current will certainly not run with the bridge which is west to east)
 
3) How are the Bridge Columns for Sighting (closer together or further apart than the orange buoys from the River?
 
You will not have any problem with sighting.  You have many bridge columns to your left and right and the bridge itself.  This race has the largest lane lines you can get (the north and south span).  The Bridge columns also are closer together than the buoys

I guess there was a 4th question he answered earlier about water temp. It was 68 in the River and has been 72 in the Bay the past few years. I asked b/c I'm hoping to do the swim w/o a wet suit; just completely fixes the back issue for me. He advocated it for buoyancy - but the buoyancy is want puts my back in the werid position. So you do whatever you want w/ that info - but he also said that people do the Bay Bridge w/o the wet suit.
2010-05-21 8:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Nanticoke RIver Swim
Thanks a lot for the info and more power to you for doing it w/o a suit.

I read in previous years' race reports that there may be a separate category for those who do the swim that way. Hope your training is going well. Good luck!


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