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2010-06-29 5:57 AM

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Subject: How does heart rate related to pace...

Does the percentage between the zones stay the same as your fitness level increases or does it increase as well.

What I mean....currently a 12min/mile means zone1 for me, a 10:30min mile means zone2, a 9:00 minute/mile zone3/4ish etc....... now as my fitness increases does the percentage in time between the zones stay the same or are these unrelated?



2010-06-29 6:23 AM
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I find they are only loosely correlated. After a fair amount of practice and personal observation, you can start to gauge your approximate pace, but I don't know that there is a percentage correlation. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that it varies fairly significantly between people, and even for an individual over time.
2010-06-29 9:39 AM
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use Anaerobic Threshold to define your training zones more accurately..

 http://www.joefrielsblog.com/2010/05/quick-guide-to-training-with-heart-rate-power-and-pace.html

Pace your training & races properly

 http://www.teamoregon.com/publication/online/wizard.php

 http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm

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2010-06-29 10:07 AM
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Subject: RE: How does heart rate related to pace...
Dom77mu - 2010-06-29 10:39 AM use Anaerobic Threshold to define your training zones more accurately..

 http://www.joefrielsblog.com/2010/05/quick-guide-to-training-with-heart-rate-power-and-pace.html

Pace your training & races properly

 http://www.teamoregon.com/publication/online/wizard.php

 http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm


I do use threshold to establish my zones....just curious if zones and pace are directly related and when fitness increases, does pace increase an equivalent amount as heart rate...
2010-06-29 10:11 AM
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SKIKIPP - 2010-06-29 11:07 AM

just curious if zones and pace are directly related and when fitness increases, does pace increase an equivalent amount as heart rate...


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2010-06-29 10:23 AM
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Subject: RE: How does heart rate related to pace...
There is a linear relation between hear rate and VO2 max, that is as the intensity increases our HR increases. That said, when exercising below VO2 max, our metabolic fitness and sustainable pace/power- that is our muscles ability to use oxygen to oxidize fat/carbs for fuel, our muscle fatigue resistance, our ability to buffer lactate, etc. all this processes might or might not directly be related to HR responds because it can also be affected by other variables such as heat, hydration, altitude, sleep, diet, etc.

In other words, the work done in our muscles the direct work done (dose) and HR is just a response and it might or might not be reflect necessarily to that work done in our muscles. For that reason it is possible to run at 9min/mile ("zone 3") with 'x' HR today and tomorrow when is hot, or you had a crappy sleep night or drank too much caffeine your HR might be 'y'.

On the long run, your HR will fall within certain average and might reflect your different paces at different intensities, however on a day to day basis it can be so variable such that it can mislead you in your training decisions (i.e. run slower because your HR is higher that day for variables other than your work done). Finally, overtime HR remains fairy constant even though your speed increased, hence you run faster at a same HR level, though HR also decreases as we age or get fitter so it is something you need to adjust.

In the end, IMO if you train with pace and gauge your effort by perceived exertion, then using a HR as well can be redundant or misleading.


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