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2010-07-26 11:16 PM

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Subject: Ice baths

How cold and how long do ice baths need to be to be effective?  I tried it this weekend.  It "hurt so good" but I got to thinking if what I did even made a difference...

Is running my tub on the coldest possible and dumping in 10 lbs of icecubes cold enough? (I don't have a thermometer...  And those icecubes melted before I got out...

I've heard 10 min - correct?

Should I be doing them only after my long runs (I usually am only sore after those runs, not my shorter midweek runs) or all of them?  (I'm not sore after my bikes...at least not in my muscles - only in my ars!)

Any advice would be much appreciated! 

Happy training everyone!



2010-07-27 1:11 AM
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I have yet to read any hard core evidence on how cold and how long is best or when to do them.  I have read and heard all about the theory behind them, but I have not seen any hard core evidence that it actually works.  With all this in mind I have read about the science and theory behind them and it makes since.  Basically the idea is, getting the heat out of your muscles, helps them go from workout mode to repair mode faster.  Someone explained it to me making the comparison that meet still cooks even when you take it off the grill, your muscles are still cooking even though you stopped running, meaning there is still swelling developing and they are still creating lactic acid ect.  The idea is stop your muscles from cooking (working out).  So with that said the science says that even just cool water will help, colder water may work better.   But, there are studies stating that too much cold for too long does more harm than good.  The old rule of thumb, don’t ice for longer than 20-25 min, and as I understand it with ice baths because it is your whole body (rather than a specific spot) you want to drop that to 10-15 min, possible a little longer depending on how cold the water is.  As for me I do it only after long runs.  I put a big pot full of ice and the water as cold as it will go and I sit in it for about 15 min.  Does it work?  I can’t prove it but I think so, I feel better after doing it and that is all that matters.  I say just play with is and find what works for you.  I know some people that just take a dip in a cold pool rather than the whole ice bath.  Then there are also those that have more ice then water in there tubs.  Good Luck. 

2010-07-27 2:37 AM
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When I'm doing over 2 hour runs I dump a 7 Lb bag of ice in a cold water bath, winter, and a 14 Lb bag in the summer. The next day I can tell if I took an ice bath or not so it works for me.

Everything I've read and from experimenting on my own is <50 degrees for 10 minutes or so is fine. Any colder does little but make me walk like an old man for a little longer but doesn't feel any better the next day.
2010-07-27 8:24 AM
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I can never seem to get my tub water cool enough to not instantly melt the ice so I will usually fill my tub before my run then when I come back the water is cooler, I dump all the ice in my ice maker in the tub and sit for about 10 minutes, that's about all I can stand. 
2010-07-27 8:33 AM
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I'll also attest that I feel 100% better with an ice bath after a long run compared to w/out an ice bath.  If I'm only going to take one ice bath during the week, I'll just dump 7-8lbs of ice in the bath tub, let it sit 5-10 min and then get in for 8-10min.
If you'll take a 2-3 baths in a short amount you might consider getting a Coleman cooler big enough for you to get into...then you'll have cold water for as much as 5 days.
2010-07-27 11:46 AM
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I take them with ice sometimes but usually just go with the tub as cold as it will go. I go for 15 minutes after my long runs, but it doesn't have to be immediately after. Ive never heard the cooking meat theory. The way I understand it is its basically reducing inflammation. So anytime you are still sore it will help.


2010-07-27 12:41 PM
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Same as most everyone else said.

I fill the tub with cold water ( I get in when it is empty and let it fill up around me), then dump the full tray of ice from my ice maker, sit until the ice melts, open the drain and wait til the tub empties.

It does work.  If I do a hard bike or run and ice, I can do it again the next day.  If I skip it, I am really sore the next day.

I don't do it after my shorter weekday workouts.

2010-07-27 3:16 PM
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I find it works best after long runs....I sit in the empty tub as it fills and put in 2, 10 pound bags of ice once the water level reaches where I need it to be.  I usually wear socks and a sweatshirt and it makes it a lot better.  10-12 min is really all you need.
2010-07-27 5:19 PM
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Just get some recovery tights, a lot easier.
2010-07-27 7:16 PM
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bryancd - 2010-07-27 5:19 PM Just get some recovery tights, a lot easier.


I use those too!  And I wear them much longer, like most of the afternoon.
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