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2010-08-20 3:38 PM

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Subject: Thankfully... the story has finally come together (Star Wars Nerd Alert)
After years of not understanding what the hell was going on in Return of the Jedi...

...Finally, the missing piece. IT ALL MAKES SENSE TO ME NOW!

Missing Lightsaber scene

Thank you George Lucas... after 30 re-releases, it has finally come full circle.


2010-08-20 4:24 PM
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That completely changes what I've been thinking for the last 30 years!! 
2010-08-20 4:25 PM
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I don't get it, how does this help me?
2010-08-21 3:40 AM
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Great article in the LA Times talking to Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back producer Gary Kurtz on how Return of the Jedi was suppose to end -

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/08/star-wars-was-b...

I think I would have preferred Kurtz's ending over the Ewok party at the end.
2010-08-21 5:49 AM
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Video got yanked due to copyrights.
2010-08-21 7:41 AM
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OK, what was on the video?


2010-08-21 10:17 AM
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2010-08-21 1:44 PM
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OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)
2010-08-21 2:22 PM
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ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM

OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


i think they're being sarcastic. i know this because i'm fluent in over six million forms of communication.
2010-08-21 9:22 PM
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ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.
2010-08-21 10:38 PM
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Leegoocrap - 2010-08-21 10:22 PM
ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


But Luke went back to Yoda on Degobah at the end of V.  Surely you would have assumed Yoda knew how to construct a lightsaber and taught Luke.


2010-08-22 3:48 AM
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trinnas - 2010-08-21 10:38 PM
Leegoocrap - 2010-08-21 10:22 PM
ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


But Luke went back to Yoda on Degobah at the end of V.  Surely you would have assumed Yoda knew how to construct a lightsaber and taught Luke.

Yeah!  Duh!
2010-08-22 6:39 AM
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trinnas - 2010-08-21 11:38 PM
Leegoocrap - 2010-08-21 10:22 PM
ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


But Luke went back to Yoda on Degobah at the end of V.  Surely you would have assumed Yoda knew how to construct a lightsaber and taught Luke.


I dunno about that. Ep. 6 leads you to believe that Luke hasn't seen Yoda since he left in Ep. 5, by which point he's already used his lightsaber (in Jabba's palace)
2010-08-22 7:02 AM
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Leegoocrap - 2010-08-22 7:39 AM
trinnas - 2010-08-21 11:38 PM
Leegoocrap - 2010-08-21 10:22 PM
ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


But Luke went back to Yoda on Degobah at the end of V.  Surely you would have assumed Yoda knew how to construct a lightsaber and taught Luke.


I dunno about that. Ep. 6 leads you to believe that Luke hasn't seen Yoda since he left in Ep. 5, by which point he's already used his lightsaber (in Jabba's palace)


I'm gonna have to throw in the DVDs and watch again but.......

When Luke leaves for cloud city he tells Yoda he will come back and finish his training.  At the end of 5 he splits and goes a separate way from Han and Leia and tells them he will meet them later.  Add to that that he is a much more accomplished Jedi in the beginning of 6 than he was in the end of 5.  It makes sense that he went back to complete his training with Yoda as he had promised.
2010-08-22 7:59 AM
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trinnas - 2010-08-22 8:02 AM

Leegoocrap - 2010-08-22 7:39 AM
trinnas - 2010-08-21 11:38 PM
Leegoocrap - 2010-08-21 10:22 PM
ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


But Luke went back to Yoda on Degobah at the end of V.  Surely you would have assumed Yoda knew how to construct a lightsaber and taught Luke.


I dunno about that. Ep. 6 leads you to believe that Luke hasn't seen Yoda since he left in Ep. 5, by which point he's already used his lightsaber (in Jabba's palace)


I'm gonna have to throw in the DVDs and watch again but.......

When Luke leaves for cloud city he tells Yoda he will come back and finish his training.  At the end of 5 he splits and goes a separate way from Han and Leia and tells them he will meet them later.  Add to that that he is a much more accomplished Jedi in the beginning of 6 than he was in the end of 5.  It makes sense that he went back to complete his training with Yoda as he had promised.


i'm pretty sure that luke says something like, "i told you i'd come back" in ep.6. and yoda definitely scolds him about leaving his training early.

also, the book "shadows of the empire" fills in the gap btwn ep.5 and 6 explaining how luke increased his jedi skillz.

as for the lightsaber, vader says to luke, "i see you've constructed a new lightsaber," after luke turns himself in. so i don't really see how the new clip explains anything else other than vader sounding kinda creepy with his "luuuuuke....luuuuuukeeee" thing.
2010-08-22 11:36 AM
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jimbo - 2010-08-22 8:59 AM
trinnas - 2010-08-22 8:02 AM
Leegoocrap - 2010-08-22 7:39 AM
trinnas - 2010-08-21 11:38 PM
Leegoocrap - 2010-08-21 10:22 PM
ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


But Luke went back to Yoda on Degobah at the end of V.  Surely you would have assumed Yoda knew how to construct a lightsaber and taught Luke.


I dunno about that. Ep. 6 leads you to believe that Luke hasn't seen Yoda since he left in Ep. 5, by which point he's already used his lightsaber (in Jabba's palace)


I'm gonna have to throw in the DVDs and watch again but.......

When Luke leaves for cloud city he tells Yoda he will come back and finish his training.  At the end of 5 he splits and goes a separate way from Han and Leia and tells them he will meet them later.  Add to that that he is a much more accomplished Jedi in the beginning of 6 than he was in the end of 5.  It makes sense that he went back to complete his training with Yoda as he had promised.
i'm pretty sure that luke says something like, "i told you i'd come back" in ep.6. and yoda definitely scolds him about leaving his training early. also, the book "shadows of the empire" fills in the gap btwn ep.5 and 6 explaining how luke increased his jedi skillz. as for the lightsaber, vader says to luke, "i see you've constructed a new lightsaber," after luke turns himself in. so i don't really see how the new clip explains anything else other than vader sounding kinda creepy with his "luuuuuke....luuuuuukeeee" thing.


Thanks guys I was happy in my peripheral Star Wars nerdiness, thinking I had a fair understanding of the events and timeline.  Now you've gone and messed me all up.


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Neat new scene but it does not change my understanding of the events one bit. 
2010-08-23 8:47 AM
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TriRSquared - 2010-08-23 9:29 AM Neat new scene but it does not change my understanding of the events one bit. 

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Agree.  It was neat to see this scene, but they decided to leave it out because they wanted Luke's first appearance to be a surprise.  When he first enters Jaba's palace the audience is not even sure who that is because of his appearance.  He almost looks like the Emperor at first.  We knew Luke lost his previous saber and had he had a new one on his person previous to this we would have seen it.  The surprise of the new lightsaber being hidden in R2 would have been lost if this scene was included.

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2010-08-23 9:54 AM
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TriRSquared - 2010-08-23 9:29 AM Neat new scene but it does not change my understanding of the events one bit. 

Agree.  It was neat to see this scene, but they decided to leave it out because they wanted Luke's first appearance to be a surprise.  When he first enters Jaba's palace the audience is not even sure who that is because of his appearance.  He almost looks like the Emperor at first.  We knew Luke lost his previous saber and had he had a new one on his person previous to this we would have seen it.  The surprise of the new lightsaber being hidden in R2 would have been lost if this scene was included.



oh that was sweet when R2 fired that light saber out. Awesome.
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ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


LOl. How right you are (got my running shoes ready).
2010-08-24 8:35 AM
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ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


LOl. How right you are (got my running shoes ready).


Except the BluRay version is the remastered version, and no self respecting Star Wars geek should own a copy of Star Wars where Greedo shoots first.


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TriRSquared - 2010-08-24 9:35 AM
VelocityDriven - 2010-08-23 9:59 PM
Leegoocrap - 2010-08-21 9:22 PM
ChrisM - 2010-08-21 2:44 PM OK, I've googled it, used to be a Star Wars geek.... but can't remember any of that.  Spill it.  What did you used to think, and what do you think now (iow, what's the big deal?)


basically... in Episode 5 Luke loses his hand and his (blue) lightsaber. During episode 6 he mysteriously has another (green) lightsaber.

At this point in Star Wars canon, Jedi'ism is pretty much forgotten/eradicated (seen at the end of episode 3 -order 66- and in some of the books that follow) so a lightsaber (which, according to most Star Wars sources, are built by their owners, being instructed by their masters... Luke's was an exception in Episode 4, he "inherited" Anakin's old one.) isn't just something you'd be able to get your hand's on.

That little bit of video shows that he found plans (in Obi Wan's home) on how to construct a new one... giving some answer to how it "appeared."

It's not a big deal, but George Lucas needs a new *tidbit* to add so all of us Star Wars nerds will run out and buy the new super duper delux master blaster edition in HD.


LOl. How right you are (got my running shoes ready).


Except the BluRay version is the remastered version, and no self respecting Star Wars geek should own a copy of Star Wars where Greedo shoots first.


The "Harrison Ford Head Fake" is possibly the biggest face palm ever...

...well, except for Jar Jar...
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