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crowny2 - 2010-08-24 9:17 AM

Why the hell will this not die?  Are people really THIS stupid?

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/08/23/obama-personally-told-the-muslims-that-he-is-a-muslim-iowa-republican-says/



I equate bigotry with stupidity, so whether it's one or the other or a combination of the two, it's the same to me.

During the 2008 campaign, there was a pernicious whisper campaign against Mitt Romney amongst *some* Christians. They propagated the idea that Romney wasn't Christian because, ITO, Mormons aren't Christians and, therefore, unfit for the Presidency due to lack of genuine Christian credentials. You can imagine how offensive this opinion is to Mormons. Some people have no sense of decency. Whadyagonna do?

You can't eliminate bigotry; this is nothing new under the sun. Politicians and those who seek to influence public opinion cynically tapping into bigotry will always be with us, too. It is a convenient tool for them. The enlightened will see it for what it is while those who cling to their dark views will embrace false ideas that support their bigoted views.

I count myself among the more than 50% of "stupid people" who voted for Obama. With an IQ of 138, I admit to being stupid. Although, they say the stupid lack an intellectual point of reference to recognize their intellectual shortcomings so I might have undermined my own admission there.

Since when do people let facts get in the way of deeply cherished hatred of things they don't understand and don't want to understand?


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Chr15 - 2010-08-25 12:13 PM I know nothing of this discussion and it doesn't really interest me either however can I as one thing, a point picked up on Renee's post above...

unfit for the Presidency due to lack of genuine Christian credentials


Does your constitution say that only persons with 'genuine' christian credentials may become President, is that someone's bent on the rules, or is it that someone who is not a 'genuine' christian wouldn't stand a chance of being voted in for their beliefs or non-beliefs?


Our Constitution has no religious test, so it's not a legal issue. It is purely a personal issue.

Some people feel that only *real* Christians are fit to be POTUS. These people have a vested political interest in defining what a *real* Christian is (or isn't).  The same sort of bias was used against President Kennedy (some Christians don't believe that Catholics are real Christians, either). Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are hardly the first politicians to have their religious "credentials" called into question - and they won't be the last.

FWIW (I know, not much), I believe our POTUS is a Christian. I also don't care if he is a Muslim, as this would in no way diminish his intellect or thoughtfulness, attributes I consider vitally important for any POTUS. I don't believe Christians are endowed with any kind of personal advantage over another person of faith or non-faith when it comes to leadership. The only advantage it gives a Christian is that they will not automatically undermine their chances of being elected as POTUS.
 


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JFK went through this debate since he is Catholic. The concern was that the US would be run by the Vatican. The concern was completely invalid, since we know the country was run by Marylin Monroe.

We went from JFK and Marilyn to Bill and Monica. Wow have standards fallen.
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