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2010-08-30 7:32 PM

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Subject: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
What would it be?

If you were to upgrade to something what would you upgrade first assuming that we keep the frame?

Wheel ?
Group set?
anything else?

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2010-08-30 7:38 PM
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The saddle.
2010-08-30 7:40 PM
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Group set - no question.
2010-08-30 7:45 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
Comfort - saddle
performance - wheelset
2010-08-30 7:46 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
neilcarter - 2010-08-30 8:32 PM What would it be?

If you were to upgrade to something what would you upgrade first assuming that we keep the frame?

Wheel ?
Group set?
anything else?

Cheers
Neil


I am going to assume you mean entry level tri bike ootherwise I would say get aerobars.

I personally don't think you will see huge difference between 105 and Ultegra or ultegra to dura ace. If you are going to go from 105 to Dura ace you might see a difference, but that is a pretty pricey increase for the difference in performance.
Wheels. If you are talking about race wheels I would go with those.
2010-08-30 7:50 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
Pedals/shoes


2010-08-30 7:55 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
maybe i should clarify

i have pedals shoes and the group set is  shimano tiagra, i also have clip on aero bars

i was considering getting some reynolds assault wheels and by the reviews would have to change them over from traning or racing as they appear prettymuch indestuctable
2010-08-30 8:03 PM
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Reynolds make good wheels, but if I was going to spend 1K on wheels I would be looking for something deeper to use for racing instead of training and racing on the 46mm wheels.

Having said you would not see too much difference in groupsets, I do think that Tiagra is quite a step below even 105, so if you were going to upgrade to Ultegra, that would not be the worst move ever.

Tell you what. I will hand deliver you my HED Jet 60's if you fly me to Manly. Love that place. awesome beach and town.

2010-08-30 8:09 PM
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The engine.  Mine needs to be upgraded.
2010-08-30 8:24 PM
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qrkid - 2010-08-30 8:03 PM

Reynolds make good wheels, but if I was going to spend 1K on wheels I would be looking for something deeper to use for racing instead of training and racing on the 46mm wheels.

Having said you would not see too much difference in groupsets, I do think that Tiagra is quite a step below even 105, so if you were going to upgrade to Ultegra, that would not be the worst move ever.

Tell you what. I will hand deliver you my HED Jet 60's if you fly me to Manly. Love that place. awesome beach and town.



Thanks for the advice, so just stick to training wheels and have your race wheels for race day Gotcha!

i was just fishing for some ideas... and will be seeing how much an ultegra groupie will set me back

oh and BTW I am looking into flights for you now! Lucky to stay here I am sponsored by a company and will be getting my PR very soon... (i am english born and bred! )
2010-08-30 8:24 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike

Nothing.

Save your money for the next bike.



2010-08-30 8:28 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
Bruenor - 2010-08-30 8:09 PM The engine.  Mine needs to be upgraded.


Finely tuning mine as we speak! making some adjustments to strip out non -essential parts
2010-08-30 8:37 PM
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Tim_H - 2010-08-30 3:38 PM The saddle.


x2 on the saddle

If you want to upgrade the groupset, look for a complete bike with the groupset you want and sell your current bike as is.  You're far more likely to sell a used complete bike with tiagra for it's actual value than trying to sell a used tiagra groupset.  Not many people are interested in upgrading to a used tiagra groupset.  But lots of people are interested in getting a used entry level tiagra bike.

Wheels are entirely up to you.  The good thing is that they can easily be transferred to any other bike assuming you always get a frame that takes the same wheel size (650 or 700).


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2010-08-30 8:42 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
neilcarter - 2010-08-30 7:55 PM

maybe i should clarify

i have pedals shoes and the group set isĀ  shimano tiagra, i also have clip on aero bars

i was considering getting some reynolds assault wheels and by the reviews would have to change them over from traning or racing as they appear prettymuch indestuctable


Group set.

2010-08-30 8:51 PM
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the bear - 2010-08-30 9:24 PM

Nothing.

Save your money for the next bike.



x2

Entry level bike is just that..don't waste your money on upgrading it as it is throwing money away..save for future tri bike.

Get a saddle that is comfortable if yours isn't, if uncomfortable get a bike fit and get your reach and stack so you can determine what would be an ideal next bike.
2010-08-30 9:21 PM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
THanks for all comments...

I have had a proper bimechanical fit with my bike so it fits well and the saddle is comfy no sore bum so to speak.

So ideally i upgrade to a new bike and get some new wheels..... now to win lotto!


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KathyG - 2010-08-30 10:51 PM
the bear - 2010-08-30 9:24 PM

Nothing.

Save your money for the next bike.



x2

Entry level bike is just that..don't waste your money on upgrading it as it is throwing money away..save for future tri bike.

Get a saddle that is comfortable if yours isn't, if uncomfortable get a bike fit and get your reach and stack so you can determine what would be an ideal next bike.


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My first serious road bike was a Trek 2000 with Tiagra components; although I now have another road bike, I still have the Trek 2000 and use it as my commuter.  I didn't upgrade anything on the bike when it was my only road bike and it has seen lots of training and racing miles.  I have replaced components as they have worn out (few chains, a cassette and I need to replace the rear derailleur as it is just about shot) but otherwise everything is stock.

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2010-08-31 8:38 AM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
neilcarter - 2010-08-30 7:55 PM maybe i should clarify

i have pedals shoes and the group set is  shimano tiagra, i also have clip on aero bars

i was considering getting some reynolds assault wheels and by the reviews would have to change them over from traning or racing as they appear prettymuch indestuctable


Assuming the saddle in comfortable, I'd say wheels.
2010-08-31 8:55 AM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
neilcarter - 2010-08-30 8:55 PM maybe i should clarify

i have pedals shoes and the group set is  shimano tiagra, i also have clip on aero bars

i was considering getting some reynolds assault wheels and by the reviews would have to change them over from traning or racing as they appear prettymuch indestuctable


saddle all the way...comfort is huge

not sure how "entry level" the bike is but it does seem a little odd to spend $12-1400 on wheels for a bike that may only be worth half that. maybe think about a rear disc cover and a light weight front wheel...just a thought
2010-08-31 11:45 AM
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Subject: RE: If you could change one thing on an entry level bike
1. saddle
2. wheels
2010-08-31 11:49 AM
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1.  Nothing
2.  Fit
3.  I like the saddle idea that many have suggested
4.  an aero helmet will make more difference than wheels- for a lot less.



2010-08-31 12:00 PM
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Did you buy your bike new or used?
If your bike is in good nick, put it up for sale for 70 - 90% of want you paid for it (new - used respectively) and add that to your 1K and buy a new bike.
That will get you a much better overall upgrade.
2010-08-31 12:02 PM
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the bear - 2010-08-30 9:24 PM

Nothing.

Save your money for the next bike.



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2010-08-31 12:06 PM
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I agree with the save your money for a new bike idea.

My first roadie was a Trek 1000 with the Tiagra groupset. I did upgrade the saddle cuz I couldn't go more than 20 miles on it, but I am keeping the new saddle and selling the bike with the original.

I just picked up a Trek 2300 on CraigsList for $650. Carbon fork, carbon seatstays, full Ultegra groupset, RaceLite wheels, etc. It is much lighter and all around just a much better bike. I just sld my old Trek 1000 for $500, I paid about $800 for it brand new.

So for $150 out of pocket I upgraded my frame, wheels, and groupset. Oh and it came with a computer and some speedplay pedals, and a box of powerbars and gels (guy selling it works for Powerbar). So if I were you I would just keep putting money into a bike fund and keep looking for a great deal, I have been looking for a while and my great deal finally came along.





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2010-08-31 12:14 PM
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Bruenor - 2010-08-30 9:09 PM The engine.  Mine needs to be upgraded.


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Still riding my "entry level tri-bike" 3 years later with no upgrades other than replacement/worn parts and an inexpensive wheelset with a disc cover (due to wheel failure).  And I fair ok for my abilities. 

Time in the saddle, so find one that does not annoy you.

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