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2010-09-13 2:08 PM

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Buttercup
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Subject: lawn mower troubleshooting
I have a Troy-Bilt 2.1 gas-powered, self-propelled lawn mower. Last week, it unexpectedly cut off in the middle of mowing. I hit a patch that was unusually high but it was the last spot to mow so I just left it.

This week, I attempted to use the lawn mower again. I filled the tank (it was low but not empty), checked the oil (plenty of oil) and started up the mower. After about 10 seconds or so, it cut off. Repeated this about 5 times. If I prime the gas, it will start right up but I can hear it start to slow down. It's as if the gas is not getting into the engine, unless I prime it.

I took off the plastic hood, didn't see anything unusual. Wiggled some things around to make sure nothing was loose. No joy.

Any suggestions? Besides taking it to get serviced (I just got it tuned a couple of months ago).



2010-09-13 2:09 PM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting

Check the air filter to see if it's plugged.

2010-09-13 2:20 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
My solution is to move to Tucson and never cut a lawn again.  Probably not what your looking for though....
2010-09-13 2:30 PM
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Elite
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting

peby - 2010-09-13 2:09 PM

Check the air filter to see if it's plugged.

x2. Also, I'd assume there's a fuel filter that might be plugged.

2010-09-13 2:34 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting

Sounds like a fuel filter or a fuel line. Had that happen to a mower I used to have. There was a bunch of junk clogging up the fuel line. Cleaned that line and it worked fine after that.

2010-09-13 2:43 PM
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Champion
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
Also make sure the cutting area is clean, but please disconnect the spark plug before you stick your hands in there


2010-09-13 2:44 PM
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Buttercup
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
Before I start removing bolts off the metal casing ... where would I find the air filter?

It's a Briggs-Stratton 6.75 hp, if that makes a difference.

Never mind. I found a diagram online.

Edited by Renee 2010-09-13 2:50 PM
2010-09-13 2:47 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
2010-09-13 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting

This should help.....





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2010-09-13 2:58 PM
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Buttercup
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
Doesn't scare me.

zed707 - 2010-09-13 3:55 PM

This should help.....

2010-09-13 3:13 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting

Yes, definately sounds like a fuel filter or line. If neither or those are the problem, maybe some particle of dirt/grass has gotten into the fuet tank (not too likely, but it can hapen)

But, just to be safe, check to see that the spark plug wire is tight. They are pretty easy to knock loose and an intermittent spark can sometimes act like a fuel problem.



2010-09-13 3:21 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
Engines are pretty basic on these things.  Many of the suggestions are good because you are really looking at fuel, air and spark systems.  Throwing out common things I check...

Fuel:  
  Sometimes if fuel caps are not venting properly you can have delivery issues
  cracks in fuel lines can cause air to leak into the system and prevent proper delivery
  as others stated, see if the fuel filter is blocked or dirty
  make sure cable is not binding somewhere
  is it the correct fuel / did it require an oil-gas mix or is your oil separate
 
Air:
  Pretty straightforward in simply making sure the air intake is clear
  Filter is not blocked
  pre-filter (if applicable) is clear

Spark:
  Check plug to make sure it is not cracked (some can have hairline cracks not visible)
  Is the plug wet or does it have oil on it? 
  Is the gap too large?
  Is the plug worn?
 
2010-09-13 3:26 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
My mower (Briggs and Stratton engine) had similar symptoms that you describe.  I could go for about 30 seconds before it would cut off.  The problem was a bad gas cap.  The gas cap vent was blocked and no air was let into the tank.  A quick way to check if this is the problem is to loosen the cap while the engine is running.  If you take the cap completely off the vibration will splash fuel, so you just want to loosen it enough to let air into the gas tank.
2010-09-13 4:42 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
Is it running Yet??

Many times the spot clogged is under the bowl,  This happens to my neighbors every year at least once
2010-09-13 4:43 PM
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Master
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
You could set it up like this. Fewer engine problems that way.
2010-09-13 4:56 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
Perhaps the float is stuck. There is a tiny bowl under the carburetor. You might can fix it by tapping on it or shake the mower around. If not, my I advice a trip to the shop.


2010-09-13 5:56 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
I will also put in my vote for a clogged vent in the fuel cap.   If you remove the fuel cap and look at the bottom side, there should be a little hole.  Use a paper clip to clear any debris.  To make sure, you could just run it without the fuel cap and see if it still dies.

If that doesn't work, then I would suggest looking for a clog in the fuel line.    If you do find a clog, clear it.  Also, add some Seafoam fuel treatment to your tank.
2010-09-13 6:41 PM
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My lawn tractor will do this exact same thing when the fuel cap vent gets clogged with dust.
Just take off the cap and clear the blockage in the vent with a paper clip or something similar.
2010-09-15 9:56 AM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
ell-in-or - 2010-09-13 5:43 PM You could set it up like this. Fewer engine problems that way.


My next door neighbor has one of these, and is happy to tout the environmental impact he's making by using it.  Too bad that you have to mow twice as often with it to keep up with the lawn.  He doesn't.  So guess whose carbon-spewing gas mower he borrows to mow when its too long for the rotary mower....
2010-09-15 10:14 AM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
madcap95 - 2010-09-14 10:56 AM
ell-in-or - 2010-09-13 5:43 PM You could set it up like this. Fewer engine problems that way.


My next door neighbor has one of these, and is happy to tout the environmental impact he's making by using it.  Too bad that you have to mow twice as often with it to keep up with the lawn.  He doesn't.  So guess whose carbon-spewing gas mower he borrows to mow when its too long for the rotary mower....


Carbon is the least of your worries with small engines.  NOx, VOC, PM are all worse than nearly every other engine category out there.
2010-09-15 11:54 AM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
ell-in-or - 2010-09-13 2:43 PM You could set it up like this. Fewer engine problems that way.

Its my understanding that this one runs on BEER!!!


2010-09-15 1:09 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
I had that going on and it turned out not to be the fuel cap but one of the little holes in the carburetor was clogged with dust. Same thing, different place. Hose down the carb with carb cleaner while you've got it apart anyway, it can't hurt.
2010-09-15 3:51 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
madcap95 - 2010-09-15 7:56 AM
ell-in-or - 2010-09-13 5:43 PM You could set it up like this. Fewer engine problems that way.


My next door neighbor has one of these, and is happy to tout the environmental impact he's making by using it.  Too bad that you have to mow twice as often with it to keep up with the lawn.  He doesn't.  So guess whose carbon-spewing gas mower he borrows to mow when its too long for the rotary mower....


HAHAHAHA! That's funny!!!!! I hope you're giving him heck and charging him $20! I just like mine because it is simple, always works and I can use it whenever I manage to remember to mow. While I will train endlessly for a triathlon, I am too lazy to fiddle with oil, fuel, etc for the mower. It's a weird kind of lazy.
 
I have only myself to blame when the grass is long. I call the solution the Landscaping Two Step. Two steps forward, one back. Takes a while to get the lawn mowed, but since my mower runs on margaritas or gin&tonics, I burn lots of calories doing it.
2017-05-05 1:25 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting
Hi just purchased

Yard Machines 12A-A1BA729 Self-Propelled Lawn Mower. Once it is started up the engine keeps revving when running.
Any thoughts
2017-05-12 3:18 PM
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Subject: RE: lawn mower troubleshooting

Yard machine has a governor instead of a manual throttle.  So, as you plow into the grass, it automatically opens the throttle to maintain speed.  There is a bit of delay in the response so you can hear the engine slow and speed up.  If your mower is slowing down and speeding up just setting still, the governor could be bad.

 

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