New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon
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2010-10-26 7:12 PM |
Veteran 321 Brooklyn NY | Subject: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Did anyone read this annoying article in Friday's New York Times about the growth of Triathlon? Triathletes, 40-Somethings, Going for Youth. A growing number of men in the 40-to-49http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/fashion/24triathlon.html I found the article to be shallow and sexist to boot. I do it because it feels good to set a goal and accomplish something, and the training gives me energy, makes me happy... also racing is FUN |
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2010-10-26 7:23 PM in reply to: #3173946 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Fairly well beaten to near death here. |
2010-10-26 7:40 PM in reply to: #3173946 |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Don't need to read the article to know that "spin" is what it's all about. |
2010-10-26 7:42 PM in reply to: #3173946 |
Veteran 321 Brooklyn NY | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon So it was, I missed that... But really, kinda surprised that no one else said anything about how lame it is that the guy in the article is motivated by not being "Chicked" (passed by a woman) So lame. I've never heard this term, is this fo real? Do guys really worry about that? Edited by Corncub 2010-10-26 7:47 PM |
2010-10-26 8:19 PM in reply to: #3173970 |
Expert 1358 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Corncub - 2010-10-26 7:42 PM So it was, I missed that... But really, kinda surprised that no one else said anything about how lame it is that the guy in the article is motivated by not being "Chicked" (passed by a woman) So lame. I've never heard this term, is this fo real? Do guys really worry about that? There could be a whole forum on it. Most guys think it's funny or motivating. There's also being strollered, dogged, old guyed, jugglered, and passed by any number of various costumed people. |
2010-10-26 9:14 PM in reply to: #3173946 |
Master 2426 Central Indiana | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Stopped wasting my $$ on NYT years ago. So sad most of their stories have turned into shallow, biased tripe. Edited by Oldteen 2010-10-26 9:17 PM |
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2010-10-26 9:19 PM in reply to: #3173946 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon I agree with the formula above from the OP. My sporty convertible was an unsatisfactory mid-life crisis. Triathlon is much more satisfactory, and better for me. |
2010-10-27 7:51 AM in reply to: #3173946 |
NH | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon $175,000 average salary? And spending $22,000 yr on the sport? Really? sigh, I need a new job. I don't have enough tri bling... |
2010-10-27 7:52 AM in reply to: #3174454 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon wbayek - 2010-10-27 7:51 AM $175,000 average salary? And spending $22,000 yr on the sport? Really? sigh, I need a new job. I don't have enough tri bling... $22,000 during an IM year. Sounds a little high, but not too far off. |
2010-10-27 7:56 AM in reply to: #3174462 |
Elite 4235 Spring, TX | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon pga_mike - 2010-10-27 7:52 AM wbayek - 2010-10-27 7:51 AM $175,000 average salary? And spending $22,000 yr on the sport? Really? sigh, I need a new job. I don't have enough tri bling... $22,000 during an IM year. Sounds a little high, but not too far off. I was thinking about the $22k on my bike ride yesterday. Still seems high, but once you account for travel for the whole family, lodging, nutrition, etc, I can see it approaching that level. |
2010-10-27 8:02 AM in reply to: #3173970 |
Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Corncub - 2010-10-26 8:42 PM So it was, I missed that... But really, kinda surprised that no one else said anything about how lame it is that the guy in the article is motivated by not being "Chicked" (passed by a woman) So lame. I've never heard this term, is this fo real? Do guys really worry about that? If you never get chicked, how can you find a ponytail to hypnotize you for the rest of the run? Hell, I get chicked by 70 year old nuns. It's just the way it is. |
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2010-10-27 8:11 AM in reply to: #3173970 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Corncub - 2010-10-26 7:42 PM So it was, I missed that... But really, kinda surprised that no one else said anything about how lame it is that the guy in the article is motivated by not being "Chicked" (passed by a woman) So lame. I've never heard this term, is this fo real? Do guys really worry about that? WOW. You haven't been riding long. Being "Chicked" is a very well known term. My little joke is this, "If you want to see a guy ride faster- let a girl pass him." In fact, if I pass a guy, I know I will have to endure him trying to pass me back. It's just how it goes. Many men can't handle the idea that a girl might be faster. |
2010-10-27 8:14 AM in reply to: #3174524 |
Elite 4235 Spring, TX | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon KSH - 2010-10-27 8:11 AM Corncub - 2010-10-26 7:42 PM So it was, I missed that... But really, kinda surprised that no one else said anything about how lame it is that the guy in the article is motivated by not being "Chicked" (passed by a woman) So lame. I've never heard this term, is this fo real? Do guys really worry about that? WOW. You haven't been riding long. Being "Chicked" is a very well known term. My little joke is this, "If you want to see a guy ride faster- let a girl pass him." In fact, if I pass a guy, I know I will have to endure him trying to pass me back. It's just how it goes. Many men can't handle the idea that a girl might be faster. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Just another source of motivation! If it weren't for being chicked, I don't think I ever would have started running! |
2010-10-27 8:19 AM in reply to: #3174534 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon AndrewMT - 2010-10-27 8:14 AM KSH - 2010-10-27 8:11 AM Corncub - 2010-10-26 7:42 PM So it was, I missed that... But really, kinda surprised that no one else said anything about how lame it is that the guy in the article is motivated by not being "Chicked" (passed by a woman) So lame. I've never heard this term, is this fo real? Do guys really worry about that? WOW. You haven't been riding long. Being "Chicked" is a very well known term. My little joke is this, "If you want to see a guy ride faster- let a girl pass him." In fact, if I pass a guy, I know I will have to endure him trying to pass me back. It's just how it goes. Many men can't handle the idea that a girl might be faster. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Just another source of motivation! If it weren't for being chicked, I don't think I ever would have started running! Yeah, I don't care if they pass me... IF they can stay ahead of me! Usually it becomes a leap frog situation. I pass the guy... he surges ahead. Unable to keep the pace he surged ahead at... I pass him back. That's annoying. I mean, go ahead by all means... but you better keep that pace buddy. |
2010-10-27 8:27 AM in reply to: #3174558 |
Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon KSH - 2010-10-27 9:19 AM Yeah, I don't care if they pass me... IF they can stay ahead of me! Usually it becomes a leap frog situation. I pass the guy... he surges ahead. Unable to keep the pace he surged ahead at... I pass him back. That's annoying. Unless it's on a hill. I've danced with many a person on rolling hills. They kill me going uphill and I own the downhill. Then it levels out and I'm gone |
2010-10-27 8:46 AM in reply to: #3173946 |
1072 | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon The article is pretty shallow and generalizes way too much. From a personal point of view, being that I am 63 years old, I sure hope getting into Triathlons is a sign of a mid-life crisis. That means I may being doing this when I am 126. Edited by browncd 2010-10-27 8:47 AM |
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2010-10-27 8:47 AM in reply to: #3174524 |
Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon KSH - 2010-10-27 9:11 AM Corncub - 2010-10-26 7:42 PM So it was, I missed that... But really, kinda surprised that no one else said anything about how lame it is that the guy in the article is motivated by not being "Chicked" (passed by a woman) So lame. I've never heard this term, is this fo real? Do guys really worry about that? WOW. You haven't been riding long. Being "Chicked" is a very well known term. My little joke is this, "If you want to see a guy ride faster- let a girl pass him." In fact, if I pass a guy, I know I will have to endure him trying to pass me back. It's just how it goes. Many men can't handle the idea that a girl might be faster. What??? I have always enjoyed fast women. |
2010-10-27 9:11 AM in reply to: #3174472 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon AndrewMT - 2010-10-27 7:56 AM pga_mike - 2010-10-27 7:52 AM wbayek - 2010-10-27 7:51 AM $175,000 average salary? And spending $22,000 yr on the sport? Really? sigh, I need a new job. I don't have enough tri bling... $22,000 during an IM year. Sounds a little high, but not too far off. I was thinking about the $22k on my bike ride yesterday. Still seems high, but once you account for travel for the whole family, lodging, nutrition, etc, I can see it approaching that level. You'd have to try real hard to blow $22k in one year on an IM. Even assuming flying first class with a family of 4 to the IM venue. We flew first class to London this year on family vacation and it was only $8k...and that was international; domestic flights would be shorter/cheaper. Hotel @ $500 night x 4 nights = $2k. Good tri bike, $6k.....assuming you buy a new bike every year and donate the old one to Goodwill. Still a way short of $22k. I don't know where they pulled that number out of.....but I've got a pretty good idea. :-) ~Mike |
2010-10-27 9:15 AM in reply to: #3174754 |
Elite 4235 Spring, TX | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Rogillio - 2010-10-27 9:11 AM AndrewMT - 2010-10-27 7:56 AM pga_mike - 2010-10-27 7:52 AM wbayek - 2010-10-27 7:51 AM $175,000 average salary? And spending $22,000 yr on the sport? Really? sigh, I need a new job. I don't have enough tri bling... $22,000 during an IM year. Sounds a little high, but not too far off. I was thinking about the $22k on my bike ride yesterday. Still seems high, but once you account for travel for the whole family, lodging, nutrition, etc, I can see it approaching that level. You'd have to try real hard to blow $22k in one year on an IM. Even assuming flying first class with a family of 4 to the IM venue. We flew first class to London this year on family vacation and it was only $8k...and that was international; domestic flights would be shorter/cheaper. Hotel @ $500 night x 4 nights = $2k. Good tri bike, $6k.....assuming you buy a new bike every year and donate the old one to Goodwill. Still a way short of $22k. I don't know where they pulled that number out of.....but I've got a pretty good idea. :-) ~Mike It's extreme, no doubt. I just think that for someone starting from scratch (no equipment) and doing an IM, the money spent can be well over $10k. Buy a top of the line bike, wheels, etc, fly the family, food for a year of training, lodging, coach, etc, you start approaching $20k. Regardless, to each their own! As long as the person has the money to burn, then there's nothing wrong with spending that much. Just the same, there's nothing wrong with doing an IM on only a couple thousand! |
2010-10-27 9:30 AM in reply to: #3174679 |
Master 1240 Knightdale/Raleigh | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon browncd - 2010-10-27 9:46 AM The article is pretty shallow and generalizes way too much. From a personal point of view, being that I am 63 years old, I sure hope getting into Triathlons is a sign of a mid-life crisis. That means I may being doing this when I am 126. That's what I told people when I started, that uh oh, I must be doing to die at 60 if I already started my mid life crisis. As for chicked, I don't think twice about it. Heck, even with an 8 minute head start I get chicked on the swim! But I did find motivation recently to hang with the 1st place lady at a small work 5K. I considered her first and foremost someone just beyond my ability and she pushed me to a great race. That's the only race in my life that I didn't get chicked. But that lady is still a faster runner than me because she knows how to push herself. |
2010-10-27 9:32 AM in reply to: #3174764 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon AndrewMT - 2010-10-27 9:15 AM Rogillio - 2010-10-27 9:11 AM AndrewMT - 2010-10-27 7:56 AM pga_mike - 2010-10-27 7:52 AM wbayek - 2010-10-27 7:51 AM $175,000 average salary? And spending $22,000 yr on the sport? Really? sigh, I need a new job. I don't have enough tri bling... $22,000 during an IM year. Sounds a little high, but not too far off. I was thinking about the $22k on my bike ride yesterday. Still seems high, but once you account for travel for the whole family, lodging, nutrition, etc, I can see it approaching that level. You'd have to try real hard to blow $22k in one year on an IM. Even assuming flying first class with a family of 4 to the IM venue. We flew first class to London this year on family vacation and it was only $8k...and that was international; domestic flights would be shorter/cheaper. Hotel @ $500 night x 4 nights = $2k. Good tri bike, $6k.....assuming you buy a new bike every year and donate the old one to Goodwill. Still a way short of $22k. I don't know where they pulled that number out of.....but I've got a pretty good idea. :-) ~Mike It's extreme, no doubt. I just think that for someone starting from scratch (no equipment) and doing an IM, the money spent can be well over $10k. Buy a top of the line bike, wheels, etc, fly the family, food for a year of training, lodging, coach, etc, you start approaching $20k. Regardless, to each their own! As long as the person has the money to burn, then there's nothing wrong with spending that much. Just the same, there's nothing wrong with doing an IM on only a couple thousand! From the article: “The average Ironman spends $22,000 a year on the sport.” Average?! $22k a year?! On the word average, I gotta call BS! I've walked thru the bike corrals at and IM and I'd say the "average" bike is in the neighborhood of $3k....and that is being generous. I've done triathlons for 12 years and I've come nowhere close to that! Bikes (4 bikes plus various gear): ~$5k Race fees: ~$3k Pool fees, gym fees: ~$1k Clothes, running shoes, misc junk: ~2k I consider myself an 'average' triathlete and I've spend about $11k over 12 years! Just have a little fun...I really do think the $22k figure was put in for 'shock purposes' for the writer to impress his editor. Someone will read the article and read 2.4/112/26.2 and suspect we are a little nuts...and then when they read $22k they will conclude the average IM is certifiably insane! :-) ~Mike |
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2010-10-27 9:34 AM in reply to: #3174845 |
Elite 4235 Spring, TX | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Rogillio - 2010-10-27 9:32 AM AndrewMT - 2010-10-27 9:15 AM Rogillio - 2010-10-27 9:11 AM AndrewMT - 2010-10-27 7:56 AM pga_mike - 2010-10-27 7:52 AM wbayek - 2010-10-27 7:51 AM $175,000 average salary? And spending $22,000 yr on the sport? Really? sigh, I need a new job. I don't have enough tri bling... $22,000 during an IM year. Sounds a little high, but not too far off. I was thinking about the $22k on my bike ride yesterday. Still seems high, but once you account for travel for the whole family, lodging, nutrition, etc, I can see it approaching that level. You'd have to try real hard to blow $22k in one year on an IM. Even assuming flying first class with a family of 4 to the IM venue. We flew first class to London this year on family vacation and it was only $8k...and that was international; domestic flights would be shorter/cheaper. Hotel @ $500 night x 4 nights = $2k. Good tri bike, $6k.....assuming you buy a new bike every year and donate the old one to Goodwill. Still a way short of $22k. I don't know where they pulled that number out of.....but I've got a pretty good idea. :-) ~Mike It's extreme, no doubt. I just think that for someone starting from scratch (no equipment) and doing an IM, the money spent can be well over $10k. Buy a top of the line bike, wheels, etc, fly the family, food for a year of training, lodging, coach, etc, you start approaching $20k. Regardless, to each their own! As long as the person has the money to burn, then there's nothing wrong with spending that much. Just the same, there's nothing wrong with doing an IM on only a couple thousand! From the article: “The average Ironman spends $22,000 a year on the sport.” Average?! $22k a year?! On the word average, I gotta call BS! I've walked thru the bike corrals at and IM and I'd say the "average" bike is in the neighborhood of $3k....and that is being generous. I've done triathlons for 12 years and I've come nowhere close to that! Bikes (4 bikes plus various gear): ~$5k Race fees: ~$3k Pool fees, gym fees: ~$1k Clothes, running shoes, misc junk: ~2k I consider myself an 'average' triathlete and I've spend about $11k over 12 years! Just have a little fun...I really do think the $22k figure was put in for 'shock purposes' for the writer to impress his editor. Someone will read the article and read 2.4/112/26.2 and suspect we are a little nuts...and then when they read $22k they will conclude the average IM is certifiably insane! :-) ~Mike But I thought everything reported by the press has to be true!?!? As I said, I can see someone spending $22k in a year as an extreme case. Average? Not even close... |
2010-10-27 9:42 AM in reply to: #3173946 |
Master 1526 Bolivia, NC | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon If this is a mid-life crisis I guess that means I'll live to 134! My swimming should improve by then. |
2010-10-27 10:06 AM in reply to: #3174873 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon blynott - 2010-10-27 9:42 AM If this is a mid-life crisis I guess that means I'll live to 134! My swimming should improve by then. And I'm betting you'll win your AG by then too!!! ~Mike |
2010-10-27 10:22 AM in reply to: #3173946 |
New user 30 | Subject: RE: New York Times sez mid-life crisis = triathlon Wow, I have to say as a new person just entering the sport the sexism associated with "Dr. Goodman" was, although not surprising, very sad. Especially since so many posts to this website are so inspiring and helpful--although of course there is the macho angle running through threads here as well that are completely off putting. But, sadly, why should triathlon training be any different from any other sport...... As far as the 22k: I think like the red sports car, if people want to do it, fine and some of us will be jealous and some of us will snicker and shake our heads. But I certainly can't afford anywhere near that and will just be on the outside working away and smiling at trying to get personally better and healthier. Not sure why I just posted this but the article and the threads about it have hit a nerve I guess. |
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