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2010-11-03 12:25 PM
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gsmacleod - 2010-11-03 11:31 AM

Just some rough guesses based on my experience (these are sendoffs):

Not necessarily, I know a lot of swimmers (myself included) that could be considered “elite” by this standard. However, in an OWS, I can’t swim straight to save my own life and to be honest probably cover a quarter of the distance of any race going side to side. Take away clear water and the black line and you have a lot of what is defined above as MOP swimmers.



I thought the fact that I said rough guesses covered the fact that it wouldn't be true in every situation.  However, for further clarity, an athlete who can hold 1:10/100y sendoffs in the pool and has a little OW skill should be able to put up an elite swim split in most tris.

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Sorry about that...

Here is another fun little fact to add to the mix.

Prior to the 2008 Olympics, the fastest send off that Michael Phelps went off at was 1:15 (for all strokes). The kicker, he did a set of 20 X 100's @ 2:00 and averaged around :50 seconds. The slowest being :53.6 and the fastest being :47.1. He is not a triathlete though. I got that from a USA Swimming Coaching class that I recently attended.

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jhouse4 - 2010-11-03 2:25 PM

Prior to the 2008 Olympics, the fastest send off that Michael Phelps went off at was 1:15 (for all strokes). The kicker, he did a set of 20 X 100's @ 2:00 and averaged around :50 seconds. The slowest being :53.6 and the fastest being :47.1. He is not a triathlete though. I got that from a USA Swimming Coaching class that I recently attended.



However, I would expect that Phelps was swimming in a 50m pool so his sendoffs would have been closer to 1:05/100y.

As well, since most of his events are <2:00 in duration, one would expect that his training would involve more recovery between sets than one would see for an endurance swimmer.

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2010-11-03 12:33 PM
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gsmacleod - 2010-11-03 12:31 PM
jhouse4 - 2010-11-03 2:25 PM

Prior to the 2008 Olympics, the fastest send off that Michael Phelps went off at was 1:15 (for all strokes). The kicker, he did a set of 20 X 100's @ 2:00 and averaged around :50 seconds. The slowest being :53.6 and the fastest being :47.1. He is not a triathlete though. I got that from a USA Swimming Coaching class that I recently attended.



However, I would expect that Phelps was swimming in a 50m pool so his sendoffs would have been closer to 1:05/100y.

As well, since most of his events are <2:00 in duration, one would expect that his training would involve more recovery between sets than one would see for an endurance swimmer.

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I will verify... I thought that it was SCY.



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jhouse4 - 2010-11-03 2:33 PM

Actually it was SCY.



Really?  I would have expected him to be in a LC pool almost entirely.

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2010-11-03 12:38 PM
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gsmacleod - 2010-11-03 12:34 PM
jhouse4 - 2010-11-03 2:33 PM

Actually it was SCY.



Really?  I would have expected him to be in a LC pool almost entirely.

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I am almost 100% certain because I was thinking the same thing. He had longer Free only sessions that were LCM and two blistering fast IM sessions in meters.

I will verify when I get home as they gave us as a handout.

2010-11-03 8:54 PM
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Subject: RE: 100s workouts in the pool...how fast for FOP, MOP, BOP
FWIW, in smaller races I'm usually first or second in my AG (M45-49) and usually around the top 10% in my AG in larger races.    

When I'm in shape I can do 20x100M on 1:40, which translates to around 1:30 or 1:35 in yards I suppose.

I think I do better in OW many than others of similar pool swim ability simply because I practice in OW a bit more than most.

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