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slaterson19 - 2010-12-19 11:07 AM

I agree with the shameless road ID plugs. Also why does a convict get all the fame? If Ironman is such a hard race how does a lady wearing a boot walk the entire marathon portion and still finish before the cutoff? I thought you had to do a run/walk combination to finish under 17 hours. I was also wondering how people miss the cutoff but say that they will be back next year.


I walked the entire marathon at my Ironman... and finished in 15:45.

Yes, I wanted to run... but the Achilles God's were not smiling that day.



2010-12-20 7:47 PM
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3. People get to IMH one of several different ways A) Qualifying. B) Lottery. C) At the choosing/discretion of the WTC based on the persons story. 4) Sponsors spots

What did you think of the IMH Show?




For me, never have done a triathlon, and 2010 being the first time Ive ever been in any type of endurance sport (MTB RACING), I was more motivated by hearing and seeing the inspirational stories than the pro athletes.  I think they could've spent more time on them, as I found that much more motivating for myself.  Either way, I was amazed at how these athletes can even finish that race, or any IronMan.

Did anyone else notice the guy running/walking on the side of the 80 year old gentlman, (in his 21st Ironman at Kona) at night, eating a bag of chips?  Am i missing something???


Wanna get inspired? Go read all the Ironman Race Reports on this website!

Very inspiring indeed.

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2010-12-21 1:20 AM
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3.  In my memory from the live coverage on race day, didn't Raelert grab a drink with one mile to go, and Macca didn't?  That's when he made the sepparation, right?  At least that's how I remember it.  Seems like it was a tactical f-up by Raelert, and it was not mentioned at all.  Maybe I have my races confused...


Raelert was toast anyway. He lost a minute and forty seconds to Macca in that last mile. A few seconds slowdown at an aid station didn't do him in. He was already burnt to lose that much time at the very end of the race.
2010-12-21 6:24 AM
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3.  In my memory from the live coverage on race day, didn't Raelert grab a drink with one mile to go, and Macca didn't?  That's when he made the sepparation, right?  At least that's how I remember it.  Seems like it was a tactical f-up by Raelert, and it was not mentioned at all.  Maybe I have my races confused...


Raelert was toast anyway. He lost a minute and forty seconds to Macca in that last mile. A few seconds slowdown at an aid station didn't do him in. He was already burnt to lose that much time at the very end of the race.


Rickz, you are correct.  NBC meshed the final two aid stations together in the broadcast.   NBCs story shows both Macca and Raelert taking fluids and Macca  taking off for the win.  It didn't happen that way.  Macca and Raelert took in fluids at the second to last aid station together and Raelert feel about 10meters behind.  Raelert pushed back up to Macca and they ran together again to the next(final) aid station.  Raelert begins to take in more fluids and that's when Macca blew thru the station without taking a thing.  

I thought that was the most exciting part of the event and NBC just glossed over it.  I think they really dropped the ball by not playing out such a dramatic finish.  When watching it on ironmanlive on the day of the race I was on the edge of my seat for the last 6 miles of that race.  With NBC....not so much.   
2010-12-21 7:48 AM
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Anyone know when the rebroadcast is or if there even is one? Last week was an absolute blur for me and I totally missed it.
2010-12-21 8:42 AM
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Its Only Money - 2010-12-21 8:48 AM Anyone know when the rebroadcast is or if there even is one? Last week was an absolute blur for me and I totally missed it.


This user uploaded it to youtube.  I doubt it will stay up that long

http://www.youtube.com/user/psyrixx#p/u 


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Its Only Money - 2010-12-21 7:48 AM Anyone know when the rebroadcast is or if there even is one? Last week was an absolute blur for me and I totally missed it.



NBC usually rebroadcasts it in February as well when sports programming options are slow.


2010-12-21 10:13 AM
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Back to the original question: "How do you qualify for Kona? How do they get the opportunity to come back again?"

1. Qualify by finishing in the top of your age group at WTC IM events and a few WTC 70.3 events - WTC allocates about 50 to 70 age-group slots at each event - each age group is guaranteed at least 1 slot and rest are distributed by percent of the field in each age group.

2. Go through the Lottery - WTC gives out 200 entries through the lottery.  $40 to enter the lottery, another $50 to get your name in the hat twice.  I think they also have a lottery for Hawaii residents for like 50 spots.

3. Through the WTC exemption - if you have a great motivational like those you saw on the program.  Or if you are a celebrity; i.e.: Lance Armstrong...


To go back the next year: I think if you finish in the top 10 in your age group in Kona you get invited back the next year; otherwise you need to got through the qualify/lottery route again. 

2010-12-21 10:23 AM
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for people dissing the convict on why he got to Kona, I would assume he qualified. He completed it with a time of 10:07:08!! WOW!!
2010-12-21 10:26 AM
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3. People get to IMH one of several different ways A) Qualifying. B) Lottery. C) At the choosing/discretion of the WTC based on the persons story. 4) Sponsors spots

What did you think of the IMH Show?




For me, never have done a triathlon, and 2010 being the first time Ive ever been in any type of endurance sport (MTB RACING), I was more motivated by hearing and seeing the inspirational stories than the pro athletes.  I think they could've spent more time on them, as I found that much more motivating for myself.  Either way, I was amazed at how these athletes can even finish that race, or any IronMan.

Did anyone else notice the guy running/walking on the side of the 80 year old gentlman, (in his 21st Ironman at Kona) at night, eating a bag of chips?  Am i missing something???


At the half point of an IM you get your special needs bag with what ever you want to put in there.  You can put a sandwich if you want.  If you're finishing late like some age groupers that will be your dinner.  Remember your out there for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.  You have to eat.  Potato chips contains sodium which can be good for you and taste better than pretzels.


I had salt and vinegar potato chips in my special needs bag. And a sandwich. And tootsie rolls.

2010-12-21 10:41 AM
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slaterson19 - 2010-12-19 8:07 AM If Ironman is such a hard race how does a lady wearing a boot walk the entire marathon portion and still finish before the cutoff? I thought you had to do a run/walk combination to finish under 17 hours.
Assuming that she qualified for Kona, she probably swam around 70 minutes and biked under 6 hours. That still gives her more than 9.5 hours to walk/limp 26.2 miles.


I looked her up while I was watching the coverage. She did qualify... and apparently she has qualified before on several occasions.

During this particular race she swam a 1:20, biked 6:15 and I forget her marathon time... I think it was like 7:37 or 7:27. Her time was like 15:thirtysomething, if I remember correctly.

I broke my toe about 5 weeks before IMWI and walked most of the marathon with a slit in my shoe. It can be done. It's just one long long long day.


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3. People get to IMH one of several different ways A) Qualifying. B) Lottery. C) At the choosing/discretion of the WTC based on the persons story. 4) Sponsors spots

What did you think of the IMH Show?




For me, never have done a triathlon, and 2010 being the first time Ive ever been in any type of endurance sport (MTB RACING), I was more motivated by hearing and seeing the inspirational stories than the pro athletes.  I think they could've spent more time on them, as I found that much more motivating for myself.  Either way, I was amazed at how these athletes can even finish that race, or any IronMan.

Did anyone else notice the guy running/walking on the side of the 80 year old gentlman, (in his 21st Ironman at Kona) at night, eating a bag of chips?  Am i missing something???


At the half point of an IM you get your special needs bag with what ever you want to put in there.  You can put a sandwich if you want.  If you're finishing late like some age groupers that will be your dinner.  Remember your out there for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.  You have to eat.  Potato chips contains sodium which can be good for you and taste better than pretzels.


 I put a few bucks in mine just in case the bike course went past a Dairy Queen
2010-12-21 11:09 AM
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mktoson - 2010-12-21 6:24 AM
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3.  In my memory from the live coverage on race day, didn't Raelert grab a drink with one mile to go, and Macca didn't?  That's when he made the sepparation, right?  At least that's how I remember it.  Seems like it was a tactical f-up by Raelert, and it was not mentioned at all.  Maybe I have my races confused...


Raelert was toast anyway. He lost a minute and forty seconds to Macca in that last mile. A few seconds slowdown at an aid station didn't do him in. He was already burnt to lose that much time at the very end of the race.


Rickz, you are correct.  NBC meshed the final two aid stations together in the broadcast.   NBCs story shows both Macca and Raelert taking fluids and Macca  taking off for the win.  It didn't happen that way.  Macca and Raelert took in fluids at the second to last aid station together and Raelert feel about 10meters behind.  Raelert pushed back up to Macca and they ran together again to the next(final) aid station.  Raelert begins to take in more fluids and that's when Macca blew thru the station without taking a thing.  

I thought that was the most exciting part of the event and NBC just glossed over it.  I think they really dropped the ball by not playing out such a dramatic finish.  When watching it on ironmanlive on the day of the race I was on the edge of my seat for the last 6 miles of that race.  With NBC....not so much.   

Thanks for replying mktoson...I was going to as well to tell him he was right.  I too, being a HUGE Macca fan, was litterally on the edge of my couch, yelling at my laptop...it was VERY cool!  I was let down by the way NBC converged the two stops.

One thing I don't remember, or maybe just couldn't see on the live feed on race day, was the fact that both Macca and Raelert had cramping issues.  Their run splits are just THAT much more impressive!

I am totally going back to watch Lieto pp'ing...guess it's fun to have it on DVR...but when you gotta go, you gotta go! HA!

2010-12-21 11:15 AM
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enderokc - 2010-12-21 11:23 AM for people dissing the convict on why he got to Kona, I would assume he qualified. He completed it with a time of 10:07:08!! WOW!!


He is no longer in prison so I am prett sure he is no longer a convict.  I thought it was a great example of someone turning his life around!
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I mentioned to my wife one of the cool parts about it was showing regular people and not just the pros.  She corrected me by telling me that there were no "regular" people in the race.  There are pros,  those who are very old, those who have some type handicap, and those that have to had a life story that could have been written by Charles Dickens.

At least that is what she could tell from the coverage.  I'd like to see some coverage on the top AGers.
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jmcconne - 2010-12-21 1:37 PM I mentioned to my wife one of the cool parts about it was showing regular people and not just the pros.  She corrected me by telling me that there were no "regular" people in the race.  There are pros,  those who are very old, those who have some type handicap, and those that have to had a life story that could have been written by Charles Dickens.

At least that is what she could tell from the coverage.  I'd like to see some coverage on the top AGers.


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Does anybody know what Chris McCormack stuffs into the front of his jersey during his run?





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Those are his man-boobs



actually they are sponges, he took them out for the finish tis time....


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Does anybody know what Chris McCormack stuffs into the front of his jersey during his run?



looks like the sponges they pass out to keep cool
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ChinaExpress - 2010-12-21 1:30 PM Does anybody know what Chris McCormack stuffs into the front of his jersey during his run?
looks like the sponges they pass out to keep cool


Yep, sponges.
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My biggest question was why Alexander chose to wear a regular helmet rather than an aero helmet.

Not that that cost him the race or anything, just seemed odd since so many others were wearing the aero's, guess he must have been trying to stay cool.



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My biggest question was why Alexander chose to wear a regular helmet rather than an aero helmet.

Not that that cost him the race or anything, just seemed odd since so many others were wearing the aero's, guess he must have been trying to stay cool.

I'm glad you caught that, me too. I don't have an answer, but maybe somebody has read or heard something on that. I wonder if he does that every race? I'll pay closer attention when I watch the reruns on Versus.

I think I also remember one of the pro women in a road helmet.

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3. People get to IMH one of several different ways A) Qualifying. B) Lottery. C) At the choosing/discretion of the WTC based on the persons story. 4) Sponsors spots

What did you think of the IMH Show?




For me, never have done a triathlon, and 2010 being the first time Ive ever been in any type of endurance sport (MTB RACING), I was more motivated by hearing and seeing the inspirational stories than the pro athletes.  I think they could've spent more time on them, as I found that much more motivating for myself.  Either way, I was amazed at how these athletes can even finish that race, or any IronMan.

Did anyone else notice the guy running/walking on the side of the 80 year old gentlman, (in his 21st Ironman at Kona) at night, eating a bag of chips?  Am i missing something???
That was hilarious. The old guy was saying how the potato was the key for him, but he was holding a Red Bull in his other hand.
I did notice that too but then I think it actually was his SN bag, but it appeared like he had pizza in his hand.  Not sure it very well might have been chips.

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Aarondb4 - 2010-12-21 3:59 PM
My biggest question was why Alexander chose to wear a regular helmet rather than an aero helmet.

Not that that cost him the race or anything, just seemed odd since so many others were wearing the aero's, guess he must have been trying to stay cool.

I'm glad you caught that, me too. I don't have an answer, but maybe somebody has read or heard something on that. I wonder if he does that every race? I'll pay closer attention when I watch the reruns on Versus.

I think I also remember one of the pro women in a road helmet.



Some choose not to wear an aero helmet due to the heat at Kona.  It's a core temp/aeroness trade off and some opt to have the cooling effect of an open, non-aero helmet.  Chrissie Wellington might be the pro woman that may me thinking of that doesn't wear an aero helmet.
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ChinaExpress - 2010-12-21 1:30 PM Does anybody know what Chris McCormack stuffs into the front of his jersey during his run?
looks like the sponges they pass out to keep cool


Yep, sponges.


The first time he won, he forgot to take the sponges out, and his finish photos looked like he had moobs.  This time, he remembered to take them out and zip up his top at the finish chute for better photos (presumably for his sponsors).
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