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2011-01-07 11:49 AM

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I have to get this rant off my chest!

Illinois truly sucks as a state. I have lived here my entire life and really wish that I got out before my kids were in school.

The Governor a state congress just decided to raise income tax 75% - from 3% to 5.25%!

We are one of the worst states for education, there is TONS of corruption, and now they need more of our money.

Pat Quinn, the Gov, ran on a pledge of raising taxes 1% to 4% which I felt is necessary. Now we see he lied and more than doubles it - what a joke!!

On top of that my local sales tax rate is 10% - and this is applied to virtually everything you buy in IL.

AMAZING & DISGUSTING!!!


2011-01-07 11:51 AM
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Move!  You said something about your kids being in school being a factor, yet you admit education sucks.  MOVE!

2011-01-07 11:54 AM
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RedShark - 2011-01-07 11:49 AM I have to get this rant off my chest!

Illinois truly sucks as a state. I have lived here my entire life and really wish that I got out before my kids were in school.

The Governor a state congress just decided to raise income tax 75% - from 3% to 5.25%!

We are one of the worst states for education, there is TONS of corruption, and now they need more of our money.

Pat Quinn, the Gov, ran on a pledge of raising taxes 1% to 4% which I felt is necessary. Now we see he lied and more than doubles it - what a joke!!

On top of that my local sales tax rate is 10% - and this is applied to virtually everything you buy in IL.

AMAZING & DISGUSTING!!!


No, no, no.  You mean CHICAGO sucks.  Quinn/Blago were only put in because of Cook County.  I 100% believe that if Cook County were sliced off and sent into the middle of Lake Michigan to be its own state, the rest of Illinois would be just fine.

I grew up in the Springfield-area.  I don't know where you're located, but believe me, I think we got it worse than anybody since it's the capital.  Chicago politicians act so high and mighty in Springfield, and nobody in Springfield cares about them.  Take the hint!

This is why I live in Wisconsin now!  /rant over
2011-01-07 11:55 AM
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BikerGrrrl - 2011-01-07 11:51 AM

Move!  You said something about your kids being in school being a factor, yet you admit education sucks.  MOVE!



Overall education does suck - my children's school district is a Top 10% nationwide.

I am just sick of all the corruption and spending without any thought to how it is paid for. This is the main reason I moved out of Chicago.
2011-01-07 12:21 PM
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Come to NY and enjoy our low income tax, low property taxes and corrupt free state government.

2011-01-07 12:37 PM
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RedShark - 2011-01-07 11:55 AM
BikerGrrrl - 2011-01-07 11:51 AM

Move!  You said something about your kids being in school being a factor, yet you admit education sucks.  MOVE!



Overall education does suck - my children's school district is a Top 10% nationwide.

I am just sick of all the corruption and spending without any thought to how it is paid for. This is the main reason I moved out of Chicago.

 

That's been going on Since Lincoln has was in Springfield... Nothing will ever change.



2011-01-07 12:39 PM
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You forgot to mention that they are raising taxes on business from 4.8 to 8.4 percent.  No wonder we are 48th in the nation in job creation.  

I love the people that say move.  Easier said than done.

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2011-01-07 12:39 PM
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Illinois people are living the dream.  We have the flat tax.  Life should be perfect.
2011-01-07 12:39 PM
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and I thought Pat Quinn was the former coach of the Leafs.

2011-01-07 12:52 PM
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RedShark - 2011-01-07 11:49 AM I have to get this rant off my chest!

Illinois truly sucks as a state. I have lived here my entire life and really wish that I got out before my kids were in school.

The Governor a state congress just decided to raise income tax 75% - from 3% to 5.25%!

We are one of the worst states for education, there is TONS of corruption, and now they need more of our money.

Pat Quinn, the Gov, ran on a pledge of raising taxes 1% to 4% which I felt is necessary. Now we see he lied and more than doubles it - what a joke!!

On top of that my local sales tax rate is 10% - and this is applied to virtually everything you buy in IL.

AMAZING & DISGUSTING!!!


No, no, no.  You mean CHICAGO sucks.  Quinn/Blago were only put in because of Cook County.  I 100% believe that if Cook County were sliced off and sent into the middle of Lake Michigan to be its own state, the rest of Illinois would be just fine.

I grew up in the Springfield-area.  I don't know where you're located, but believe me, I think we got it worse than anybody since it's the capital.  Chicago politicians act so high and mighty in Springfield, and nobody in Springfield cares about them.  Take the hint!

This is why I live in Wisconsin now!  /rant over


Heh... there are many of us in PA who wouldn't mind giving Philidelphia to New Jersey.  Smile
2011-01-07 1:13 PM
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Idaho is a rockin place to live.

We even had the cojones to sue the federal gubment.



2011-01-07 1:22 PM
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Illinois sounds like washington...you have King County (basically Seattle) and then the rest of the state. However because a very large chunk of the population lives in King County, and many are on the poorer/less advantaged side, they always vote for the politician who is going to spend the most on their social services (not that they are not needed but we could cut a ton of red tape from the system, not raise taxes, and be able to help more people.) I think eastern washington wants to split the state in two and become their own tax base even.
2011-01-07 1:46 PM
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Aarondb4 - 2011-01-07 1:13 PM
Idaho is a rockin place to live.

We even had the cojones to sue the federal gubment.



Pfffffft. . . I don't doubt that Idaho rocks, but where I come from suing the feds is just compulsory. No points for difficulty or style.

And what's a state income tax?
2011-01-07 1:49 PM
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Aarondb4 - 2011-01-07 12:13 PM
Idaho is a rockin place to live.

We even had the cojones to sue the federal gubment.



x2

COL here is amazingly cheap. Housing is dirt cheap. Traffic is minimal. Biking lanes are awesome. Being in Boise is like having all of the big city amenities, but with very few people to enjoy them. Having said that, don't come here and ruin it for us now Wink
2011-01-07 1:56 PM
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Sorry about the troubles, sounds like Amazon businesses are getting ready to leave as well.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-01-06/business/ct-biz-0107-internet-taxes-20110106_1_sales-tax-retailers-tax-fairness

2011-01-07 1:57 PM
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Aarondb4 - 2011-01-07 12:13 PM
Idaho is a rockin place to live.

We even had the cojones to sue the federal gubment.



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COL here is amazingly cheap. Housing is dirt cheap. Traffic is minimal. Biking lanes are awesome. Being in Boise is like having all of the big city amenities, but with very few people to enjoy them. Having said that, don't come here and ruin it for us now Wink


I like C'DA but Boise is to close to my Ex who live in the Nampa/Caldwell area. Not to mention no jobs in my field and probably none in my wifes. I think you are safe for now!


2011-01-07 2:06 PM
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bel83 - 2011-01-07 11:22 AM Illinois sounds like washington...you have King County (basically Seattle) and then the rest of the state. However because a very large chunk of the population lives in King County, and many are on the poorer/less advantaged side, they always vote for the politician who is going to spend the most on their social services (not that they are not needed but we could cut a ton of red tape from the system, not raise taxes, and be able to help more people.) I think eastern washington wants to split the state in two and become their own tax base even.

Except for two things:

- Washington state doesn't have an income tax
- We allow initiatives, where voters often shoot down the (frequent) tax&spend behavior of the state legislature

Not to mention King County is a microcosm of the state as a whole.  There's Seattle, with the liberal contingent you described, and the eastside, which is a lot of Microsoft money and generally conservative leaning voters.
2011-01-07 2:11 PM
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spudone - 2011-01-07 12:06 PM
bel83 - 2011-01-07 11:22 AM Illinois sounds like washington...you have King County (basically Seattle) and then the rest of the state. However because a very large chunk of the population lives in King County, and many are on the poorer/less advantaged side, they always vote for the politician who is going to spend the most on their social services (not that they are not needed but we could cut a ton of red tape from the system, not raise taxes, and be able to help more people.) I think eastern washington wants to split the state in two and become their own tax base even.

Except for two things:

- Washington state doesn't have an income tax
- We allow initiatives, where voters often shoot down the (frequent) tax&spend behavior of the state legislature

Not to mention King County is a microcosm of the state as a whole.  There's Seattle, with the liberal contingent you described, and the eastside, which is a lot of Microsoft money and generally conservative leaning voters.


I did not realize Ill. did not have the initiative system so that is a big difference, though in fairness only recently have many of those been useful in shooting down tax hikes and such. We almost had an income tax but luckily people were smart enough to not vote it in. COL is pretty high on the west side of the state though which is another concern/issue that gets bantered about a lot by my friends/aquaintances.
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windandsurf - 2011-01-07 1:56 PM Sorry about the troubles, sounds like Amazon businesses are getting ready to leave as well.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-01-06/business/ct-biz-0107-internet-taxes-20110106_1_sales-tax-retailers-tax-fairness



Even worse is that the state expects everyone to go back to 2005 to the present and pay tax on ALL online purchases - they have to be kidding right!!

I know things are bad in other places but we have one Gov in jail, the next Gov waiting to go to jail and a broken system.
2011-01-07 3:06 PM
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It's always reassuring to read posts like this and then read about the next advisor to Obama who's coming from IL.
2011-01-07 3:22 PM
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Aarondb4 - 2011-01-07 12:13 PM


Idaho is a rockin place to live.

We even had the cojones to sue the federal gubment.



As someone born & raised in Illinios who now lives in Idaho, I must say I agree.


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HP12C_Guy - 2011-01-07 2:22 PM
Aarondb4 - 2011-01-07 12:13 PM
Idaho is a rockin place to live.

We even had the cojones to sue the federal gubment.

As someone born & raised in Illinios who now lives in Idaho, I must say I agree.


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