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2011-02-11 7:14 PM
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agarose2000 - 2011-02-11 7:08 PM I hear everyone about the fluidity, but I'm not sure that limiting your run training so you don't go into that "sloppier" run form phase occasionally is the way to go. That type of speed/fluidity is due to his great power and cardio base, which is built up by VERY hard work and great genetics. 

If you limit your intensity of your hi-intensity speedwork and VO2 intervals because you're trying to be "smooth", you're limiting your chance to run that smoothly at pace during a race.

I found that smoothness at speed (for me, a lowly 5:30min/mile, which is tortoise-pace compared to those gazelles!) came not from any special neurovascular technique training, but from lots of miles and lots of intensity, which equated to overall run fitness. 



I certainly don't disagree that lots of miles and a good dose of intensity are important ingredients to getting fast (assuming of course that one can do those things without getting seriously injured), but I would say also that focusing on being relaxed is never a bad thing, even (indeed, especially) during a hard effort.  I recently went through a period of doing 100s on the track (don't ask why -- my own sick training program) and I'm sure that the ones that most helped were the ones where I remained focused on staying loose.  As it happens (no coincidence, in my opinion), the ones where I succeeded at staying loose were also the fastest.

In other words -- hard effort and staying relaxed do not have to be mutually exclusive.  I could start quoting from Stoic philosophers at this point, but then you'd mistake me for Scout.


2011-02-11 8:00 PM
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love that Chris Solinsky video.

I can't believe people can go that fast.
2011-02-12 4:39 PM
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Wow, Sophmores looking tough this year in the indoor mile. Here is another laying down a 3:56.48 today at the Tyson Invite, an 8 second pr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfeAhNhecNs
2011-02-12 5:20 PM
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oh man....that was insane....
2011-02-12 6:03 PM
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gerald12 - 2011-02-12 5:39 PM Wow, Sophmores looking tough this year in the indoor mile. Here is another laying down a 3:56.48 today at the Tyson Invite, an 8 second pr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfeAhNhecNs


Cool.  Thanks for posting!
2011-02-14 7:15 AM
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agarose2000 - 2011-02-11 7:08 PM


I found that smoothness at speed (for me, a lowly 5:30min/mile, which is tortoise-pace compared to those gazelles!) came not from any special neurovascular technique training, but from lots of miles and lots of intensity, which equated to overall run fitness. 



I would say that you did do special neurovascular training in the form of lost of miles and lots of intensity.

When I make the statement that you should feel fluid, it's because I think people try to push too hard on most intervals too often, rather than not enough. Push hard on shorter intervals where you won't deteriorate as much, but longer intervals should be at a slightly lower level.

And you can get up to those speeds and still be fluid by practicing staying fluid from the get go.

But generally, I think we are pretty much saying the same thing.


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