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2011-09-30 3:41 PM
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So I'm here as we already know swim is cancelled. As much as I wanted to swim going down to the river and checking it out they made the right call. Gotta say quite the disappointment for my first tri :-(They also made a slight change to the bike course and it is now only 55miles with some extra miles right at the beginning as there was flooding in the loop portion near the end. But no worries as the course is definitely hilly so bring yer climbing legs!Lastly as for the TT bike start it was explained as you will start at your bike and they will send 1-2 rows off at a time. Your time will start as you cross the timing matt coming out of T1. so you will only have a bike time (no time split for bike), T2, and run time.


2011-09-30 4:08 PM
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I'm going to a meeting tomorrow, but still curious if they said how many they are letting out at a time and how often?  And if they are going to try and have some order in who goes first?  Like stay with your wave assignments. With the technical nature of this course (and now an increased chance of rain) I hope it's not too fast as more congestion could lead to more trouble in the tight spots.

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2011-09-30 5:07 PM
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2000 bike mass start!

There's a real steep hill about 3-4 miles in that will thin things out a bit, I'm sure.  Or we'll all just be spinning uphill side by side.  Rode it today and didn't downshift early enough and had to unclip, walk down and try again!

2011-09-30 8:45 PM
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Geez I hate wearing wristbands!  Can I cut this thing off yet?  Did I have to put it on today??
2011-09-30 9:24 PM
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brigby1 - 2011-09-30 9:45 PM Geez I hate wearing wristbands!  Can I cut this thing off yet?  Did I have to put it on today??

Ha!  Same here.  Had I thought ahead and realized I was going to be there tomorrow for one of the race meetings anyway, I would have waited to pick everything up until then.  Of course, now I can get everything organized tomorrow before heading out.

Plan tomorrow is to drive the course and get everything to transition and the start.  Debating on whether to try to drop the bike off as late as possible to avoid sitting it out in the rain all day or not worry about it since it's probably going to get wet anyway...

2011-10-01 6:06 AM
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Drop your bike off when it's most convenient for your schedule.  Rain is supposed to be here later and I don't think that matters much anyway.


2011-10-01 7:23 AM
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brigby1 - 2011-10-01 7:06 AM Drop your bike off when it's most convenient for your schedule.  Rain is supposed to be here later and I don't think that matters much anyway.

Well, right now it looks like the best chance of rain is midday, dropping off as it gets later, and then now they're saying no rain tomorrow, which would be awesome.  Maybe the front is moving faster than originally anticipated.

2011-10-01 10:23 AM
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I just drove the course again.  Just turned right out of the beach area, so I'm 4-5 miles short.  Otherwise was able to do every bit of it.  Came up with 3,094 ft of ascending.  I thought it seemed like more than 2,000-2,500.  There are a few rough spots where teeth may chatter, in addition to other chip & seal sections where there will a little buzz.  There are some more where it could be  very tricky.  Enough that it'd take a while to note all of them.  Really depends on the weather and how fast people want to go through.  Use your head.  If you don't know the turn and can't see, slow down.  Stay to the right as well.  Some people will most definitely know the course really well and how fast they can take a blind turn.  I'm really excited about the course and hope others are too.  Hopefully the complainers (from other areas) have the sense to stay out of the way, but that might be a tall order to ask of them given the number of repeat questions.

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2011-10-01 5:34 PM
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brigby1 - 2011-10-01 11:23 AM I just drove the course again.  Just turned right out of the beach area, so I'm 4-5 miles short.  Otherwise was able to do every bit of it.  Came up with 3,094 ft of ascending.  I thought it seemed like more than 2,000-2,500.  There are a few rough spots where teeth may chatter, in addition to other chip & seal sections where there will a little buzz.  There are some more where it could be  very tricky.  Enough that it'd take a while to note all of them.  Really depends on the weather and how fast people want to go through.  Use your head.  If you don't know the turn and can't see, slow down.  Stay to the right as well.  Some people will most definitely know the course really well and how fast they can take a blind turn.  I'm really excited about the course and hope others are too.  Hopefully the complainers (from other areas) have the sense to stay out of the way, but that might be a tall order to ask of them given the number of repeat questions.

We drove it this afternoon as well, although I skipped the figure 8 section.  There are maybe only 2 or 3 real steep hills, a couple longer climbs but not as steep, and otherwise a lot of rollers.  Seemed like the route rises faster than it descends.  I'd say for a 56 mile ride, it looks like pretty good road conditions.  I've never been lucky enough to have roads in that good of a shape on a ride that long unless I stuck to the local bike path.  A few sections were definitely rougher than others, but not bad, and I rode on the chip/seal yesterday (technically it's not chip/seal, it's just real coarse asphalt), and it wasn't too hateful at all.

I've taped my bike shoes up, and I think I finally figured out what I'm going to wear tomorrow.  The only question is whether I wear tights or not.  Is it better to have my legs cold on the bike or warm on the run?



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2011-10-01 6:38 PM
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Can you take the tights off after the bike?  I lean towards most people wearing them if it's raining in the temps we'll see.  So a little warm on the run assuming you can't take them off at transition.  If they fit well you'll just sweat more, but like it was warm out.  Dehydration shouldn't be an issue in these conditions.

I'm not going to wear tights, but know I have a strong motor and can work it hard over this distance.

2011-10-01 6:49 PM
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brigby1 - 2011-10-01 7:38 PM

Can you take the tights off after the bike?  I lean towards most people wearing them if it's raining in the temps we'll see.  So a little warm on the run assuming you can't take them off at transition.  If they fit well you'll just sweat more, but like it was warm out.  Dehydration shouldn't be an issue in these conditions.

I'm not going to wear tights, but know I have a strong motor and can work it hard over this distance.

I could probably throw them over my bike shorts, then peel them off in T2 if I need to.  Probably what I'll end up doing.



2011-10-02 4:27 PM
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I survived!  Race report up.  Time for shower and pizza.  (Already had the beer).
2011-10-02 5:39 PM
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Mine is up too.  Hopefully it makes sense because I was overlooking a lot of mistakes while drafting it.

Vegas slot, woohoo!

2011-10-02 6:29 PM
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Congrats on the Vegas slot!
2011-10-02 6:33 PM
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brigby1 - 2011-10-02 6:39 PM

Mine is up too.  Hopefully it makes sense because I was overlooking a lot of mistakes while drafting it.

Vegas slot, woohoo!

Awesome job! Your description of the bike course makes me feel very happy with my performance on the bike now; were it not for traffic on some of the downhills, I'm sure I could have done even better.  I tend to fly past everyone that passed me going uphill on the downhill, unless they get in the way.

2011-10-02 6:50 PM
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Thanks!  I slowed down a LOT on a few of those downhills.  Particularly the ones while heading back east late in the race.  I left a lot of time on the course from being patient will all the people and having to slow down in a number of places because it was tricky and wet.  Skill-wise, this was a very hard day and pretty much everyone should be happy to stay upright.


2011-10-02 6:52 PM
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brigby1 - 2011-10-02 7:50 PM Thanks!  I slowed down a LOT on a few of those downhills.  Particularly the ones while heading back east late in the race.  I left a lot of time on the course from being patient will all the people and having to slow down in a number of places because it was tricky and wet.  Skill-wise, this was a very hard day and pretty much everyone should be happy to stay upright.

Yeah, it didn't help that apparently nobody went to or paid attention at the race meetings where they gave us explicit instructions that when riding on the left side of the road, to ride left and pass right.  I eventually gave up trying to follow that rule and just did what everyone else was doing.

2011-10-02 7:56 PM
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People never do really get that.  They don't realize how absent minded they are.  I'm not perfect, but do seem more aware than others.  I'll be thinking about entering WTC races after this, maybe see where my start could be.  This is no different than other races I've been in, but at Rev3 Knoxville there were like 450 people out there.  About 1/4 of what we had today.

Wonder what my time would have been if I'd gone for the P4 frame instead of that lousy Ordu? (haha)

2011-10-03 3:56 PM
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Well that was a ton o fun, even without the swim. I did better than expected On the bike, including an over the bars crash 10miles in. Anyone see it? I thought it was quite spectacular! Lucky I was completely uninjured other than some scratches. But still managed a sub 3 bike so was very excited. The run was a challenge because 1. I never ran more than 10miles in training, 2. I cramped a half mile in. Ughhhh. Pretty much walked the first 2miles and then continued with walking, stretching, and running until the turnaround. After that a took a page from Jens Voight and said "shut up legs" and toughed out the second half at my desired/expected pace. 5:07 total time for first tri evar! (or bike-run!). So was very happy as total time was right on target minus the swim as was banking around 5:45 with it. I had a smile from ear to ear for the last 4miles as was running at close to 8min/mile. Definitely sore today! But so worth it. Hope everyone enjoyed it as much as I did!By the way who can tell me how to create a race report?
2011-10-03 4:47 PM
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Started my day off with a flat tire.  While driving to the event!  Heading up Rte 33, found a BIG hole in the road, on the left side of the left lane.  Rear tire blew out, even dented the rim a bit.  Fortunately I had a good spare, and even an air compressor (not that the spare needed it).

20 minutes later I was back on my way, until the traffic jam in town.  Got myself rushed and forgot to grab a water bottle and gels, so I started with no fluids and maybe one gel.  Oh well.

This was my first HIM, and I had wanted to pace myself on the bike, but then decided to go with what was comfortable, and just see what happens on the run; I had done 45/10 bricks in the last few weeks, with similar terrain, but 30 deg warmer, so I figured to just let it go and see where the wall was.

I was surprised to see some walking on some hills, and some "complaints" about tough hills.  Maybe it's my MTB background, but the hills didn't seem bad at all.  I also have a road bike, so maybe that helps?

Didn't see any crashes, but I did feel it slip a couple times, not too bad though.  There was a rough patch, I think after that newly paved section with coarse asphalt, where a guy on a tri-bike got into one of those oscillatory modes with the front wheel, wiggling left and right.  Don't know if he got a flat, or the right combination of road/bump/speed.  I think he recovered without incident.

At least I got the flat out the way early.
2011-10-03 7:40 PM
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I didn't know what to expect considering this was my first half ironman and second tri overall, all I can say is I had fun and was pleased with my performance. My bike training lacked a little because of bike problems, crashes etc. But I think pushing it on a stationary bike for two hours has it's place regarding training options. 19.6 average on the ride with the chain falling off twice wasn't bad and a 9:17 average first half run followed by a 8:20 average second half and I finished 4:51 total. Sub 5 weehoo that was my goal after I heard the swim was cancelled, leave it on the course right? I'm confident that with the swim I would've ended up sub 5:45 but then again who knows, guess that means I need to do another one. I thought it was very well organized from the shuttles in the morning to the ease of getting your morning bag and bike. Tried to work out some soreness with a 30 minute stationary bike just now but I think I made it worse Going on vacation for the rest of the week then 2 hard running weeks to get ready for NYC Marathon then 2 week taper. I hope everyone came out ok yesterday and I hope to see you out there again some day.


2011-10-03 8:00 PM
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psycleridr, I didn't see it, but saw people on the side, most I think were flats.  Good job sticking with it. To make a race report, go to the Race Log button near the top (next to "Forums").  Click the Add A Race button from there and fill in various information as best you can.  You can save it as a draft first and don't have to put in an entry for every box provided.

tcj103, I think the mountain biking really helped me out too.  Saw people walking the hills and think some were slipping out with the wetness.  Weight back, consistent pedal pressure all the way around the stroke, and go through it, right?  I only had the slightest slips on when on the lines.  Otherwise it was fine.

cyclone31, nice going!  By the way, the run splits on the results is not accurate.  The sensor was at the turnaround which was ~7 miles in, not 6.55, so things are skewed.  The total and overall average are still right on.  My Garmin was showing me ~7's for mile pace the whole time, not 7:30/6:30.  That'd be a major screw-up of pacing!

2011-10-03 8:33 PM
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I just noticed my race position changed from Sunday.  Up to 7th Age Group and 47th overall.  Penalties?  Less than a minute out of 5th now, which would have been a podium spot.  If only I had my act together in a few places.  Oh well, it was still fun and I still got the slot.  If I really deserve a podium finish then it won't be a one-time performance.  It'll be from consistently doing really well.

I still can't believe Bart Aernouts pulled a 2:11 on the bike in those conditions.  That is some insane riding.



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brigby1 - 2011-10-03 9:33 PM

I just noticed my race position changed from Sunday.  Up to 7th Age Group and 47th overall.  Penalties?  Less than a minute out of 5th now, which would have been a podium spot.  If only I had my act together in a few places.  Oh well, it was still fun and I still got the slot.  If I really deserve a podium finish then it won't be a one-time performance.  It'll be from consistently doing really well.

I still can't believe Bart Aernouts pulled a 2:11 on the bike in those conditions.  That is some insane riding.

Maybe that chipmunk I saw belly up around mile 30 saw him go by and just fainted out of amazement!

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apicek - 2011-10-03 11:34 PM
brigby1 - 2011-10-03 9:33 PM

I just noticed my race position changed from Sunday.  Up to 7th Age Group and 47th overall.  Penalties?  Less than a minute out of 5th now, which would have been a podium spot.  If only I had my act together in a few places.  Oh well, it was still fun and I still got the slot.  If I really deserve a podium finish then it won't be a one-time performance.  It'll be from consistently doing really well.

I still can't believe Bart Aernouts pulled a 2:11 on the bike in those conditions.  That is some insane riding.

Maybe that chipmunk I saw belly up around mile 30 saw him go by and just fainted out of amazement!

I saw that poor little fella Frown. I contemplated hitting him as he was still squirming when I rode by and just wanted to put him out of his pain. Felt terrible.

As for Bart I know not having all those people in front of him helped. I know my OTB accident was partly due to congestion and partly to my stupidity/over exhuberance. I will also say that having the MTB background was helpful. I can't say I slowed much on the descents even with the wet conditions. As for the climbing in the course I did not find it that bad although there were a few tough little sections that were definetely in the 7-8% range but they didn't last long....thankfully!

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