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2011-04-04 2:08 PM

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Subject: Pool safety device for children
My parents are putting in a pool at their beach house and I am scared to death.  I have been looking at pool alarms and the kind kids wear on their wrist.  My mom said they are going to put alarms on the outside doors.  They are also taking swim lessons but they are so young I still feel like I need something else.  Any ideas or suggestions?


2011-04-04 2:17 PM
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Um, if the house is at the beach how will you alarm the ocean?

Keep the doors locked! 

I would steer away from pool covers though unless they are solid and sealed, anything else becomes MORE of a drowning hazard if someone ends up on top of them and under the water.

Teaching water safety and getting swim lessons would probably be the best move.

2011-04-04 2:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children
I agree about safety and lessons but they are only 4, 3, 3, and 1 so I need something additional.

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2011-04-04 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children

We spend a lot of time at my in-laws beach cottage with a canal and dock in the back yard.  We have a 5yo and a 2yo - so you've certainly got more ground to cover.  First rule, they're never out of sight.  Second, they never go on the dock without wearing a PFD.  The 5yo knows this rule well.  So, if the pool is in a somewhat confined area, you could try the PFD rule until you're more comfortable with swimming abilities.

 



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2011-04-04 2:40 PM
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Swim lessons...    Honsestly, with the # of pools, lakes oceans etc here in my area, we decided it was a non option once our kids were about a year old.   You can take a lot of precautions with gates, locks etc, but there are too many stories every year for me to not have best piece of mind which is child knows how to get to the side of the pool/steps etc.    Might be too close a time to get these lessons in before visit, but cant express the need to do this at very early age.   Our kids were swimming independently before 2 yrs old.   I was too scared to drop my own kids in so had an instructor put up with their initial crying and fits.   They stopped crying WAY sooner for other people vs mom and I.   

Good luck.

2011-04-04 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children
Not sure if NC laws are different from FL but any new pool in FL must have a a safety fence.  Ours is never open unless we are in the pool (in which case we are obviously watching our 2 year old).  It is nice being able to let her play on the deck w/o worrying about the pool.


2011-04-04 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children
fence around the pool. even if it is a temporary one but with a lock and a gate, would be the best way to keep them out. aside from that, pool alarms, keep the back doors/gates completely locked all the time etc and vigilance is your best bet.
2011-04-04 3:33 PM
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http://babygate.net/

this is the company we use for all of our pools

2011-04-04 4:07 PM
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tricrazy - 2011-04-04 12:08 PM My parents are putting in a pool at their beach house and I am scared to death.  Any ideas or suggestions?

Fence, fence, fence.  We just had an 18 month old boy in our neighborhood drown.  There was no fence around the pool.  It was absolutely heart breaking.  My inlaws just moved into a home in our neighborhood and the pool didn't have a fence.  My wife and I ended up paying to put in a fence.  We had a mesh fence installed similar to what you see here: www.poolbarrieraz.com.  I can't imagine not having a fence with even our 3 year old. 

2011-04-04 4:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children
It's a state law, there has to be a fence.
2011-04-04 4:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children
Fence seems like the easiest option. That way, no kids can get in the pool.


2011-04-04 5:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children
The mesh fences are great.  And once your kids are old enough they come right out of the ground and it looks like you never had them.
2011-04-04 6:50 PM
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MomX3 - 2011-04-04 5:05 PM The mesh fences are great.  And once your kids are old enough they come right out of the ground and it looks like you never had them.


That's what I had put in around my pool. My only question is if I'll stop using it when the kids are older. It isn't exactly convenient all the time, but it is one more safety measure for both expected and unexpected swimmers.
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2011-04-05 9:58 AM
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MomX3 - 2011-04-04 6:05 PM The mesh fences are great.  And once your kids are old enough they come right out of the ground and it looks like you never had them.

 

X2  We used the mesh fence til our kids were strong enough swimmers/old enough to take it down. Just make sure you get one with a self closing gate. Some people choose to just open and close a section as they enter or exit. All it takes is to forget one time or get distracted for tragedy to occur.

 

2011-04-05 10:05 AM
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MomX3 - 2011-04-04 6:05 PM The mesh fences are great.  And once your kids are old enough they come right out of the ground and it looks like you never had them.
technically they are required to stay there, if it is a pool built since 2000.  Even if you no longer have small children you have to have a fence around the pool/spa


2011-04-05 10:33 AM
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My kids were 4 and 2 when we moved to FL.  We were paranoid about the pool and never, ever let them out by the pool by themselves.  I for one would never trust my kid's lives to just alarms or fences; there's no substitute for knowing where your kids are all the time.

The best solution is to make them good swimmers.  We enrolled ours in swimming programs at the YMCA as soon as we could and even hired a private instructor one summer to come to our house and give lessons (we even invited some of our neighbors kids to participate also).  Even after they learned to swim we had strict rules that there had to be an adult present any time they were in the pool.

Our kids became good swimmers rather quickly, but our bigger concern was neighborhood kids who would come and swim at our pool.  Some were not strong swimmers and we ended up "lifeguarding" the whole time they were there.  One neighbor in particular would send her kids to our house to swim while she would leave and go shopping.  We finally had to "ban" her kids because we got tired of being responsible for them.


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2011-04-05 10:39 AM
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RedCorvette - 2011-04-05 11:33 AM My kids were 4 and 2 when we moved to FL.  We were paranoid about the pool and never, ever let them out by the pool by themselves.  I for one would never trust my kid's lives to just alarms or fences; there's no substitute for knowing where your kids are all the time.

The best solution is to make them good swimmers.  We enrolled ours in swimming programs at the YMCA as soon as we could and even hired a private instructor one summer to come to our house and give lessons (we even invited some of our neighbors kids to participate also).  Even after they learned to swim we had strict rules that there had to be an adult present any time they were in the pool.

Our kids became good swimmers rather quickly, but our bigger concern was neighborhood kids who would come and swim at our pool.  Some were not strong swimmers and we ended up "lifeguarding" the whole time they were there.  One neighbor in particular would send her kids to our house to swim while she would leave and go shopping.  We finally had to "ban" her kids because we got tired of being responsible for them.


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COMPLETELY agree with this. Our kids were never allowed in the yard unless we were there to watch. Fence/alarm just adds another layer of safety.

2011-04-05 10:39 AM
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There is no substitute to vigilence.  No alarm, either on the doors, or the pool, or even a pool fense is a substitute for the presence of the adult eye!
2011-04-05 10:44 AM
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ajusf16 - 2011-04-05 11:05 AM
MomX3 - 2011-04-04 6:05 PM The mesh fences are great.  And once your kids are old enough they come right out of the ground and it looks like you never had them.
technically they are required to stay there, if it is a pool built since 2000.  Even if you no longer have small children you have to have a fence around the pool/spa

This is mandated Federally? I thought this was determined locally.

2011-04-05 11:45 AM
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Sammeg - 2011-04-05 10:44 AM

ajusf16 - 2011-04-05 11:05 AM
MomX3 - 2011-04-04 6:05 PM The mesh fences are great.  And once your kids are old enough they come right out of the ground and it looks like you never had them.
technically they are required to stay there, if it is a pool built since 2000.  Even if you no longer have small children you have to have a fence around the pool/spa

This is mandated Federally? I thought this was determined locally.



It is local, though many/most communities require a fence, often with minimum height requirements. However, I've only seen the requirement for a perimiter fence around the back yard (if that is where the pool is) to limit access to the pool area.

A removable mesh safety fence as desribed in several of the posts above is not a requirement anywhere I've seen. Most pools - public or private - don't have one. I put mine in as an additional safety measure to the privacy fence around the yard.


2011-04-06 10:48 AM
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The Consumer Products Safety Commission has a lot of good information on their site.  Check out http://www.poolsafely.gov/

Hope that helps.

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2011-04-13 9:15 PM
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Sammeg - 2011-04-05 11:44 AM

ajusf16 - 2011-04-05 11:05 AM
MomX3 - 2011-04-04 6:05 PM The mesh fences are great.  And once your kids are old enough they come right out of the ground and it looks like you never had them.
technically they are required to stay there, if it is a pool built since 2000.  Even if you no longer have small children you have to have a fence around the pool/spa

This is mandated Federally? I thought this was determined locally.

Mandated by the state of florida, which is where Momx3 has in her tag line so that was where I was quoting off of. I am not familiar with other state laws currently.
2011-04-14 12:12 PM
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Subject: RE: Pool safety device for children
My wife had to have a pool when we built our house, they make me a little nervous from the tragic stories you read every year. Anyway we had the fence installed around the pool until we considered the kids drown proof as I would say. This included every summer a friend of my wifes daughter would give them lessons, she swims for Georgia Tech. and has worked for us for 6+ years even trained my Autistic son to be a pretty good swimmer. He was scared to death of water so I consider this a major plus.

After about four years I opened up the fence so you could go out the back door into the pool area. I felt they were good swimmers and could keep themselves out of trouble. We still watch them like hawks and they are 9 and 15. We don't let kids in the hood swim at our pool NOBODY. I never want neighborhood kids to associate being in the hood with being at our pool, because neighborhoods always has that family that never keeps an eye on there kids. And yes I have pissed off alot of neighbors, I would rather them off than tell them their kid is at the bottom of our pool. That simple and I tell them that, plus it's not a community pool their are plenty of them around.

That's my take on pool safety, I'm still nervous about having one which I hope makes me more vigilant. I'm opening mine up this weekend yes it's heated and will close it down in late October for the 7th. season.

Hope that helps.
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