Conservative Republicans (Page 3)

If she sat there and drooled she would be more articulate than the current pResident.

57 states, Bethalyzer etc.....

For the record if the I would vote for a dead goldfish rather than the two clowns we have now. 

You truly believe that?  I think you're in a small minority if you think President Obama is not articulate. Not a fan of the progressive income tax structure?  I can understand that.  I don't agree with it, but I understand it.  Not a fan of the estate tax?  I can understand that.  I don't agree with it, but I understand it.  But to say our president is not articulate, I am with the majority who disagree with your opinion.

If Palin could communicate well she wouldn't have been dumped on the way she's been dumped on.  If Sarah Palin had the ability to communicate like George Will, do you honestly think she'd be seen in the same light?  I don't.  

 Looks like this thread is getting side tracked a bit. Note it is titled, "Conservative Republicans" and asks if a member of said group could vote for Palin.

I think that Ryan has come under far too much heat recently to effectively pull Centrists to the polls. His going to be demonized and vilified as the guy who wants to kill Medicare, so that's also going to turn seniors against him. Personally, I think Romney should get the GOP nod and if he puts up a good show, I would consider voting for him over Obama.

*thump* (hitting ground)

Hell hath frozen over ...

But to take your point into consideration, and also readdress the OP and other thoughts ...

I know the media have a field day with Palin. Different media with different slants portray, and edit to portray, the worst of what comes out of candidates they don't favor.

I try to really look for strong points and strong moments applicable to the race at hand--in experience, presentation and writing--and with Palin, for the most part, I'm still looking. (Let me reiterate that I could be considered a conservative Republican).

You make an excellent point, though ... a solidly centrist Republican would be able to snag a good part of the swing voters in both parties.

This has been alluded to in previous posts, and also this: if we (by that I mean Republicans) could get a decent centrist Republican for the pres candidacy, I'm okay with a real right-winger (not grossly unqualified and illogical right-winger like Palin) for the veep.

There's no need to spend money to discredit her - she's done that so thoroughly and capably all on her own. A quitter who was too bored, lazy and ADD to finish her governorship. A reality-tv star wannabe. A whiner who, apparently, considers large swaths of America to be *not* Real America - how unPresidential.

And if her own words and erratic behavior aren't enough to sufficiently display her lack of temperance and intellect for the job, there are the Republican vanguard who are repulsed by the thought of her Presidency. David Brooks, Kathleen Harper, George Will, Peggy Noonan - not only do they consider her unfit, they don't consider her a grown-up. Aside from the vanguard, consider the Conservative Republicans on this forum - they want her to go away, too.

I consider myself "the other side" - liberal, unaffiliated voter - and I will tell you she doesn't scare the bejeebers out of me. In fact, this thread has generated a few bursts of laughter in me.  But I also know there is no way she will ever face-off President Obama in the general election. He won't have it that easy.

There is simply no way she would survive the primaries. Sarah is all about Sarah's cult of personality; she has no policy chops, no consistent positions, no IDEAS. She is Narcissus Incarnate and could not possibly sustain her attention long enough to 1) pursue the nomination or 2) survive the scrutiny, questioning, debates, and long and arduous process. Nor would she deign to do the hard and serious work of seeking donations from serious people with serious bank accounts.

Mitt Romney's great challenge will be to minimize his obvious and deep disdain for having to share a debate stage with her without coming across as too paternal or unlikable. For once, I will actually feel sorry for the guy as he attempts to respond to her nasally nonsense while containing and masking his contempt for her.

Nice example of what is wrong with this country. Looking for wishy washy watered down candidates to pull the "centrist" vote. What exactly is the difference between a "centrist" Republican and the wishy washy watered down "centrist" Democrat we have in office right now? Hummm centrist big government... centrist big business..... such a hard hard decision.... so many differences....

For the record, not sure what happened, but I quoted TriRSquared, and it showed up as his post. It was not his, it was mine. Carry on.

People trying to compromise is what's wrong with this country? No, what is wrong with this country is the mindset that it's "Us against them" and the idea that Centrism and compromise are the problem, as opposed to the solution. It's the pack mentality of narrow-minded individuals who believe that politics is a zero-sum game, as opposed to a scenario where neither party should be happy with the results but still able to have a friendly discussion at the end of debate.

Maybe sorta kinda off-topic, but (this is COJ! If it's all not off-topic, what would it be??? )

On a little-little scale, COJers have a hard enough time reaching majority, much less a working majority, much less an approximate consensus, on anything political. I think the different viewpoints and the right to articulate them is awesome and marvelously U.S. American.

Unfortunately, we then bemoan politicians who can't seem to get anything done ... small wonder? The judicial system is adversarial, and the political system in many ways is, too.

So we elect a bunch of people, throw them together in Congress, have a wickedly polarized and essentially bipartisan process to elect a President, then expect the President to be fair, neutral, and work for the good of the whole nation?

... she does seem to really pizz off the average liberal voter IMO. So much so that they can never resist taking time from their busy days to point out her shortcomings and let everyone know how dumb they've been told she is.

Compromising on how to run this country into the ground is not a solution to me. You show me any "solutions" that have come out of Washington in the last 20 years. Nothing but partisan politics and the extremes of both parties driving this country off a cliff. Come election time they prop up some puppet that is likable enough to get elected..... Problem is none of them are LEADERS.

The President is largely a meaningless figure head.. Meanwhile the Legislature keeps writing checks we can't cash. Partisan politics rolls merrily along. Any time either side gets a win, they write checks and blame the other guys... then the other side wins and they write a bunch of checks real quick before the other side takes back the check book.

What we need is a Legislature that will take away their own power and take back all the money that has been handed out. That of course will never happen. Because every 4 years the voting public votes for who they think will give them the most. So you want to sit here and tell me that compromise is the solution. Ya... that's working so well for us.

Ya, that would be a refreshing change.

Look at the topic... that fact that that nim rod Palin was thrust upon us for consideration to possibly lead the most powerful nation on the planet.... after BRIEFLY serving on the PTA, being a mayor in a po-dunk town, and getting elected to run Alaska.... the largest state in the nation... but on the bottom of the list in every thing that matters, budget, economy, citizens, work force for the state.... And why.. .why was she thrown out on stage????

Because a weak politician.. who I happen to respect as a a man.... compromised on what he thought would get him into the Big Chair. Not the best decision for the country... but what he though was the best (desperate) decision to get him into the WH.

Pretty sad.

Exactly... that's why I didn't vote for him. His lack of accomplishment as a Senator has been great experience for his lack of accomplishment as a President. But he was the man the "people" wanted... pulled in all those great "centrist" votes.

The sad thing is.... the people that approved of Palin were never going to vote Obama to begin with. McCain gained nothing. Half the people that voted FOR McCain voted neither for Palin or McCain but against Obama. And Partisan politics rolls merrily along.

The only people that could actually do some good will never be elected. Ron Paul is a great example. Worse yet is if he was even elected... Congress would just wait him out for 4 years and he would not accomplish one single thing. No... I don't have a very positive outlook for our political future.

Why do you think conservative pundits point out how dumb they think she is?

Is it possible that people - liberal or conservative, including the conservatives on this board - observe her and draw their own conclusions that she dumb? Why do you assume that people need to be told what they can see for themselves?

Again, not a fan of Palin, but the same could be said of our current President.

Interest, I didn't see it.... internet gremlins.... anyway thanks for posting the clarification. 

This one has been beat to death in the new the last few days.  I said she has "some" good points... this was NOT one of them...

And I'm sure as hell not voting for her....just trying to be fair.

Palin campaigned on the Real America nonsense; those are her words. I've never heard Candidate or President Obama claim there are Real Americans (and by implication, non-Real Americans).

So, no, the same could not be said of President Obama.