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2011-07-25 8:34 AM

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Subject: Need a new training watch -- your help in picking it out apprecaited
My 1.5 year old cheapo timer only watch gave up the ghost at my race on Saturday. Served me well, but its time to replace it. I'd like to get something that does a bit more. I'm looking for ability to do swim, bike, and run times during training & races. HRM would be good, as would some way to track distances (GPS, I assume). Being a decent watch as well would be nice, but not a requirement. Not looking to spend a ton of cash, either, but want to get something which will perform and be dependable. I've checked out DCRainmakers site, and I'm a bit overwhelmed.  I already have a Cateye wireless bike computer which does speed, distance, cadence, time, total odomer, avg speed. etc, so I'm not sure if I need to replicate that on the watch.

So with all this, what does BT think I should check out? Thanks for your input!


2011-07-25 8:45 AM
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Timex Ironman watch.

No GPS, no HR, but if you're not currently using those, do you really need them?
2011-07-25 8:49 AM
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I have the Garmin 310XT.  I have it set up with the quick disconnect wrist band and use it on my road bike and tri bike.  It is definitely more $$, but you could sell the current bike computer and buy the speed/cadence sensor.  A friend has the Garmin 405 which she likes, but after seeing some of the things my 310 does, she regrets not spending a little more for the 310.

 

2011-07-25 8:55 AM
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I don't know of a watch that meets all those requests.  The Garmin 310xt will do it all, but it's not small enough to actually wear as a watch, nor is it cheap.  If you want cheap, and highly functional- consider the Garmin 305 (it's big and ugly, but it works... not waterproof tho').  the Garmin 210 can be worn like a regular watch- it's small enough, but not really waterproof.

Actually- I think the Garmin Forerunner 60 might be what you're looking for.  It's not GPS, but it's got a footpod for tracking running distance, will work with ANT+ items (HR strap, bike speed/cadence monitor), is waterproof, small enough to be work like a regular watch, and I think you can get them for ~$100.

Check out DCRainmaker's review on it.  Could be the one for you.

2011-07-25 9:03 AM
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The FR60 is definitely a good watch.  That is what I was using before upgrading to the 310.  I upgraded because I wanted some of the additional data from the GPS on the 310. 
2011-07-25 9:21 AM
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http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2010/08/my-2010-athletic-gps-device.html

I have and really like the 310XT.  I haven't had other GPS watches with which to compare it.  I don't have a bike computer, just use the Garmin.

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2011-07-25 9:26 AM
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When I first got into running and triathlons I bought a Garmin 405. It is a good GPS watch but you can't swim with it. It has a touch Bezel which is cool but soon becomes annoying if it gets wet or your finger is wet.

I recently bought the Garmin 310XT. This GPS watch is sweet!

Do yourself a favor and save yourself time, money and frustration, buy the Garmin 310XT and be done.

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2011-07-25 10:45 AM
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Running with a GPS is awesome.  To me, it's like having power on the bike because you can see exactly how fast you're running no matter what you feel like your running.

I'd stick with Garmin or Timex.  I personally have a Timex Global Trainer and really like it.  I think it's a little cheaper than the garmins.

2011-07-25 1:33 PM
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bradaskins - 2011-07-25 9:26 AM

When I first got into running and triathlons I bought a Garmin 405. It is a good GPS watch but you can't swim with it. It has a touch Bezel which is cool but soon becomes annoying if it gets wet or your finger is wet.

I recently bought the Garmin 310XT. This GPS watch is sweet!

Do yourself a favor and save yourself time, money and frustration, buy the Garmin 310XT and be done.

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2011-07-25 2:39 PM
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firegirlred - 2011-07-25 2:33 PM
bradaskins - 2011-07-25 9:26 AM

When I first got into running and triathlons I bought a Garmin 405. It is a good GPS watch but you can't swim with it. It has a touch Bezel which is cool but soon becomes annoying if it gets wet or your finger is wet.

I recently bought the Garmin 310XT. This GPS watch is sweet!

Do yourself a favor and save yourself time, money and frustration, buy the Garmin 310XT and be done.

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2011-07-25 2:58 PM
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Scout7 - 2011-07-25 9:45 AM Timex Ironman watch. No GPS, no HR, but if you're not currently using those, do you really need them?

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The Timex Ironman is great because it has a decent amount of memory storage; you could go a few days without having to delete it. It also has a countdown timer. I use it for running splits and swimming, although I'm such a slow swimmer I'd best be served wrapping a calendar around my forearm.

For GPS/HR info you can snag a Garmin 305 for cheap off Amazon, that's still a pretty decent watch for the money.



2011-07-25 6:29 PM
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Don't forget there are several different softwares that work with smartphones to do the gps, Blue tooth HRM.  These work great on a bike and run.  Many of these softwares are free.  I use Endomondo which works most of the time. I then listen to my music through my bluetooth hedphones.  Every mile I run, Endomondo stops the music and tells me my total time, split time, and distance.

 

Its not perfect as sometimes the gps gets confused and tells me things like I just ran 208 miles in 37 minutes.   There are others that work with iphones etc.

2011-07-25 6:49 PM
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For me, I decided that I'm best off with a timex IM watch with HRM and a garmin 500 edge cycling computer.

Reason I went with this is because I wanted a watch I could wear all the time.  At work, in the shower, swimming, biking, running, etc.  If I have a watch specific for training that is not suitable for everyday use, that increases the chances that I'll forget it at home.  I also didn't want something I constantly need to charge the battery.

I use a garmin 500 computer only because I have a power tap, and I needed a computer that could read power.  If I didn't have a powertap, I would simply use a cateye computer. 

ETA: I do forget my 500 at home sometimes...



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2011-07-26 9:36 AM
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I have a Timex IM women's watch... I use it for swimming. It's about $30.00, if you Google it, you might be able to find one cheaper on eBay or something.

I have a Garmin 310xt as well. I use it for everything else. EVERYTHING.

 

2011-07-26 9:46 AM
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Since you're "not looking to spend a ton of cash" consider the FR305 which does damn near everything the 310xt does. And does it well, at one-third the cost.
2011-07-26 9:50 AM
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Whizzzzz - 2011-07-26 10:36 AM

I have a Garmin 310xt as well. I use it for everything else. EVERYTHING.

 



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2011-07-26 4:04 PM
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Pretty happy with my Timex Global trainer. It does everything the Garmin 310XT does. you can get good deals on Ebay. If anything goes wrong with the device, from my own experience, Timex will exchange it. BTW the GPS chipset in the Timex and Garmin is the the same.
2011-07-26 4:16 PM
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I've got the Garmin FR305.  Gives me splits every mile for run and bike.  When I head out for a run with an unknown distance or my route changes, the Garmin GPS picks it up so I have all the data when I get home.  Very simple to program and download to PC.  You can view splits on the watch itself w/o connecting to PC.

I swim laps in a pool so I have little use for it there.  Open water swims are infrequent, those I just swim for a fixed time at a solid effort.  Swim progress can be assessed in the lap pool.  If you only swim in open water that's a different story, 305's not waterproof.

Garmin customer service is exceptional also.

2011-08-04 12:25 PM
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I got my wife the FT60 from Polar, she loves it for her indoor workouts and tracking calories. I love the outdoor workouts more, and wanted something with GPS - so for my b-day she got me the Timex Global Race Trainer. So far its been two months of basically using it several times daily and I absolutely love it. Yeah its huge, but unless I'm doing pushups I don't notice it. Some complain (in online reviews) that the Timex takes forever to get GPS signal, but I learned that if you take it off your wrist, turn it on and lay it down, it will get signal very quickly. I usually get get a minute or two of stretching in while it acquires the signal. When its on your wrist and you are moving, good luck. I used it in my tri on Tuesday in Multisport mode and it worked flawlessly. Plus we got it at REI on sale for under $200, normally its about $300.
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tri808 - 2011-07-25 6:49 PM

For me, I decided that I'm best off with a timex IM watch with HRM and a garmin 500 edge cycling computer.

Reason I went with this is because I wanted a watch I could wear all the time.  At work, in the shower, swimming, biking, running, etc.  If I have a watch specific for training that is not suitable for everyday use, that increases the chances that I'll forget it at home.  I also didn't want something I constantly need to charge the battery.

I use a garmin 500 computer only because I have a power tap, and I needed a computer that could read power.  If I didn't I don't have a powertap, so I would simply use a cateye computer. 

ETA: I do forget my 500 at home sometimes...

So far I love my Timex IM watch, it's easy to use, works great with the HR monitor it came with(which by the way, I do believe it compatible with other HRM apps and such) and it was relatively inexpensive, about $100.

2011-08-04 1:02 PM
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Go with the Garmin 305 for the function vs $. 

I want something like the forerunner 210 but when you swim with it, currently not waterproof.



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I was expecting to see a comment on the new Polar RCX5. It is advertised as recording HR data during the swim. That would be a very unique feature in the HR/GPS industry. I have put off purchasing a 310XT or a Global Trainer in hopes that one or both companies will soon release an updated version that will allow for swimming data. Anyone used the RCX5? Any of you 310XT or Global Trainer user able to get HR while swimming? I don't mind using multiple instruments in training, but on race day I want to strap it around my wrist before the swim and not have to touch anything till after the race. Until more manufacturers step up and make a complete package product, I will just have to use multiple cheap devices, or use nothing at all for races. I am currently purchasing a Sigma Sport Onyx Pro HR monitor and use my phone for GPS. I have been using the Sigma PC14 for about the past 10 years, but it finally gave up last week. My hopes are to get another season or two from the new Sigma and then buy a swimming HR/GPS unit once they have had a chance to perfect the technology.
2011-08-04 2:07 PM
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Another side question, do the 310XT or Global Trainer have replaceable straps? I break at least two a year, and really prefer to make my own leather straps.
2011-08-04 2:25 PM
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I saw several mention the Timex Ironman, and I agree as I have one.  Has the HR feature, but I don't use it.  I run known distances so I don't need GPS (Cateye on the bike, all info I need)  You can swim with it and keep laps.  Very simple.  Brother-in-law has a 405 that gives him a lot of trouble and it can't get in the pool.  The only reason you would need a GPS is if you wanted to know your current pace all the time.  I think you can become overly dependent on that info.
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I ended up getting a Timex Ironman 100 lap watch. On sale for about $40. I'll wait and ask Santa for the Garmin 310
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