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2011-08-26 11:04 AM


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Subject: Swimming with a straight back
lately I was swimming when someone said to me that I was swimming with a hollow back, it was true, because after that I tried to swim with a straight back, I was only able to do this with squeezing my butt and I felt I was gliding trough the water faster, so it was holding me back. So, my question is.. Does someone know some kind of trick to keep my back straight in the water? Cause when I squeeze my butt I'm not able to use my feet well.


2011-08-26 11:11 AM
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dimi - 2011-08-26 12:04 PM  Cause when I squeeze my butt I'm not able to use my feet well.

I don't have any specific advise for you.  I just find this statement, in isolation, funny.  

2011-08-26 11:58 AM
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dimi - 2011-08-26 12:04 PM  Cause when I squeeze my butt I'm not able to use my feet well.

I don't have any specific advise for you.  I just find this statement, in isolation, funny.  



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2011-08-26 12:18 PM
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Build up that core strength! It takes some work from your core to hold the correct swimming position.

(you can build this in and out of the water - through s/b/r and through core strength training)

2011-08-26 2:08 PM
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More core work, using a pull buoy at all?  What about any kicking drills?
2011-08-26 2:24 PM
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I imagine stretching out further and reaching further ahead of me.  I guess it's mental for me but it helps. 



2011-08-26 3:53 PM
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Some people find it helpful to think in terms of pushing your chest down or swimming downhill.
2011-08-26 6:38 PM
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You need to have your upper back generally straight, but your lower back needs to be relaxed/loose. I feel like there's a hinge in my back about 4 inches above my belt/suit line, if that makes any sense. So try swimming with your upper back straight, but maybe not tensed all the way down to your butt. In fact, keeping your back straight really shouldn't involve kerning your body tense, or your butt clinched, it's just like standing with good posture.

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2011-08-26 9:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Swimming with a straight back
Where is your head position when you swim?  Are you looking forward, or are you looking down?  I find if you look down and keep your chin tucked a little bit so there's a straight line from your neck, to the back of your head (but you obviously don't want your chin touching your chest- it should feel natural and comfortable),  that the rest of your body should follow suit.  Maybe spend some time practicing doing a "dead man's float" with some light kicking, to get used to good body position. 
2011-08-27 5:00 AM
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As the above poster mentioned, I think you probably need to work on your head position (looking down, not out in front). I've been swimming forever, but somehow developed that "head up" habit in the 20+ years between age group and master's swim--probably from mostly swimming in crowded pools or open water where I tended to look ahead all the time to avoid obstacles. What really helped me was doing kick sets, esp. freestyle, with flippers, arms at sides or out in front, head down in the water (no board). Try looking ahead, then looking down. You can really feel the effects of bad vs. good head position on how cleanly and quickly you glide thru the water.

It also helps if you wear a swim cap-- I find that both with myself and the kids I coach, esp. girls, hair, even fairly short hair often gets into eyes and encourages a swimmer to look forward and that possibly leads to arching the back a little. I've never heard of squeezing the butt--in fact, I can't say I've ever thought about my butt in the water!

2011-08-27 8:46 AM
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First, I am curious if you have a gymnastic background using the term "hollow" back.  I had never heard it until my daughter was heavy into gymnastics.

I created a straight line with tape on the carpet in our workout room.  I then practice streamlining on my side on the tape.  This is where you are on your right side, right arm straight out in front of you, left arm on top of your side with your fingers extending towards your knee.  It is the position right before rotating and doing a pull with your right arm.

When I first started really swimming my instructor asked me to get into this position on the side of the pool.  So I thought I did.  He indicated, no, I want you to be straight.  Wow!  I thought I was and he was full of it until I got home and put the tape down.  

Over the next 1+ year and doing a lot of swimming I now can lay on the tape and be perfectly straight.  Well on one side.  I have a problem on the other side.  Plus I also now swim straight. 

I am not a swimming expert.  But I don't believe you want your back completely straight.  I think you want it hunched some.  Hunched but still able to be straight on the line I explained above.  You will need a fish to help you with that aspect.

 



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