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2011-09-09 10:44 AM

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So I got invited by one of my friends to go to a Seattle Sounders match tomorrow. I have never been a big sports fan, whether it is soccer, football, baseball etc. but given the friend I am going with and the way Seattle loves this team I am expecting a good time. However - other than some obvious things, like putting the ball in the goal to score and not using their hands to play (except the goalie) what are the rules I should care about or know about? What constitutes an illegal tackle or move? is there an offsides rule? what constitutes a red card vs a yellow?

I tried to do some reading on the rules last night but they get pretty involved in the rule book/text I was reading so I am hoping someone(s) on here can spell them out plainly.

Happy Friday COJ!



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bel83 - 2011-09-09 9:44 AM

So I got invited by one of my friends to go to a Seattle Sounders match tomorrow. I have never been a big sports fan, whether it is soccer, football, baseball etc. but given the friend I am going with and the way Seattle loves this team I am expecting a good time. However - other than some obvious things, like putting the ball in the goal to score and not using their hands to play (except the goalie) what are the rules I should care about or know about? What constitutes an illegal tackle or move? is there an offsides rule? what constitutes a red card vs a yellow?

I tried to do some reading on the rules last night but they get pretty involved in the rule book/text I was reading so I am hoping someone(s) on here can spell them out plainly.

Happy Friday COJ!

 

Yellow Card - Warning for a dangerous play typically. 2 yellow's and your gone.

Red Card - Flagrant foul automatic ejection.

Off Sides - When the ball is kicked, all of the attacking players must be in front of the last defender, ie the defender needs to be between the goalie and the attacker. Once the ball is kicked, it doesn't matter. There are some exceptions to this rule, but this is the jist of it.

Corner kick - anytime the ball rolls out of the end line last touched by an defensive player, it's a corner kick.

Goal kick - same as above but offensive player is last to touch.

 

Slide tackles are acceptable as long as you get the ball. If you don't get the ball it's a foul.

 

That's about it I think.



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There's not a whole lot more. Normally legal tackles are the ones that go for the ball.  If they go for the other guy's leg, it's a foul.  Two yellow cards make a red card.  A red card is expulsion.  A red card can be given directly for very obvious anti-sportsmanship behavior, but are rare.  Yellow cards are given for excessive violence, wasting time, things like that.  The offside rule is probably one of the most complex. Basically an offside happens when the player is beyond the last non-goalie player.  However this only counts when the passer kicks the ball.  If the ball is already in motion, the player can move closer to the goal to catch the pass.  One important aspect is that the goalie can't catch a pass from a team mate with his hands (unless it was headed).  Other than that, it's pretty straight forward....
2011-09-09 11:28 AM
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The one offsides exception that comes up the most - but usually only at lower levels, not any pro levels - is about the mid line.

Basically, there is no offsides if all the players are on the defending side of the field.  i.e. a forward could be hanging out alone by the center line - all the defenders are closer to the opposing goal.  As long as the forward is on his defence's side of the center line, he can never be offsides.

Like I said, doesn't happen in the pros.  Occasionally in high school and lower though when defenders are more interested in scoring than in playing defence.

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One team kicks the ball one way and the other team kicks the ball the opposite way. They attempt o kick said ball into a goal at the far end of the field. Players fall down alot in attempt to get a free or penalty kick. They have orange slices at halftime. Sometimes the fans will riot, mostly in foreign countries because we here in America have another form of FOOTBALL we watch.Tongue out
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it sounds so simple! why do fans get so upset all the time then? It seems like that would not make much sense if the rules are so straightforward!


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and the way Seattle loves this team I am expecting a good time.

You will be surprised at the fans at a Sounders game.  It's not like any other sporting event around here.  Get a good night's sleep before you go.  Prepare to be on your feet / jumping / chanting the entire game and it'll be loud.  They sell out nearly all their games, with higher attendance than any other team in the league, by a fair margin.

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spudone - 2011-09-09 9:58 AM

and the way Seattle loves this team I am expecting a good time.

You will be surprised at the fans at a Sounders game.  It's not like any other sporting event around here.  Get a good night's sleep before you go.  Prepare to be on your feet / jumping / chanting the entire game and it'll be loud.  They sell out nearly all their games, with higher attendance than any other team in the league, by a fair margin.

In my life I have been to exactly 1 professional sports game (a mariners game 2 years ago where I was also in a private box - got invited by a good friend luckily!) so I will have nothing to compare it too. My only issue is that I get claustrophobic in large crowds so I am hoping that will not happen here  but my friend assures me it will be fine. If not - well, there is always beer

 

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You also have to call the referee and his mother all insulting names you know, Tongue out

most fans complains are with the Off Sides calls, it is a very dificult call to make.

 

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ricmachado - 2011-09-09 11:36 AM

You also have to call the referee and his mother all insulting names you know, Tongue out

most fans complains are with the Off Sides calls, it is a very dificult call to make.

 

 

I'll help you out with my personal favorite ref insult overheard when I was just a little kid of 12.

 

Get off your knees ref, you're blowing the game.

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Don't forget, there must be at least 13 fake injuries and fouls per side.



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Just cheer when your friend cheers, get mad when your friend gets mad, and remember phrases like "Wow...awesome" or "horrible...simply horrible" and use them at the right time. If somebody says "Did you see that?", guage if it was said in excitement or is an upset manner and then simply respond with "I can't believe that just happened" (that's a universal phrase.....but inflection will be needed....)



  • .....and drink beer.....



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    spudone - 2011-09-09 11:58 AM

    and the way Seattle loves this team I am expecting a good time.

    You will be surprised at the fans at a Sounders game.  It's not like any other sporting event around here.  Get a good night's sleep before you go.  Prepare to be on your feet / jumping / chanting the entire game and it'll be loud.  They sell out nearly all their games, with higher attendance than any other team in the league, by a fair margin.



    X2. A Sounders game is an event. Enjoy and GO SOUNDERS!!

    One important part of the rules that I think has been missed is that a foul results in a "free kick". This means the team that was fouled gets to place the ball at the spot of the foul and kick it unencumbered by the defense. It the fould occurs in the offensive end relatively close to the goal this creates a scoring opportunity. If the foul occurs inside the larger box surrounding the goal, then a "penatly kick" is given. The ball is placed on the spot and only the goalie is allowed to defend. These fouls are judgment calls and can create some of the controversy you alluded to.

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    When the riots start, rip a seat out of the stands and throw.

     

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    bel83 - 2011-09-09 12:13 PM 

    If not - well, there is always beer

    Sorry, no beer. Unlimited orange slices and CapriSuns tho!

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    and the way Seattle loves this team I am expecting a good time.

    You will be surprised at the fans at a Sounders game.  It's not like any other sporting event around here.  Get a good night's sleep before you go.  Prepare to be on your feet / jumping / chanting the entire game and it'll be loud.  They sell out nearly all their games, with higher attendance than any other team in the league, by a fair margin.



    X2. A Sounders game is an event. Enjoy and GO SOUNDERS!!

    One important part of the rules that I think has been missed is that a foul results in a "free kick". This means the team that was fouled gets to place the ball at the spot of the foul and kick it unencumbered by the defense. It the fould occurs in the offensive end relatively close to the goal this creates a scoring opportunity. If the foul occurs inside the larger box surrounding the goal, then a "penatly kick" is given. The ball is placed on the spot and only the goalie is allowed to defend. These fouls are judgment calls and can create some of the controversy you alluded to.

    And then there are direct and indirect free kicks.  Direct free kicks can go from the kicker directly to the goal.  Indirects have to hit a teammate first.  Don't worry too much when one happens vs another, but just know that they exist.



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    And don't be upset if the game ends with no score, it still can be a great game.

     

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    also, at the pro level, only 3 substitutions per game per side.
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    Two yellow cards make a red card.  A red card is expulsion.  A red card can be given directly for very obvious anti-sportsmanship behavior, but are rare.

    One more tidbit:

    When you lose a man on a red card, you can't substitute someone in to replace him -- you play short the rest of the game.

    Also there's one more pure red card offense - deliberately fouling to prevent a goal.  Usually that's a slide tackle from behind or grabbing a jersey or anything that impedes progress if the shooter has no players left to beat besides the goalkeeper.  Another variation of this is a deliberate handball to stop the ball from going in.

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    Have fun! Wish we had a pro team here.
    I wonder if you will have figured out the "off side rule" by the end of the game?  
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    I have a rules question also. My kid was playing goalkeeper in his U-8 league this morning and he made a save at the goal line. He picked up the ball and was carrying it closer to the top of the penalty area to kick it out when the ref stopped him and made him go back and kick it from inside the smaller box close to the goal opening. I thought the keeper could handle the ball
    Anywhere inside the penalty box, so I'm not sure why the ref brought him back inside the goal box. Can someone clarify this rule for me?


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    bradword - 2011-09-09 3:49 PM Don't forget, there must be at least 13 fake injuries and fouls per side.

    LOL! Yes, you must have lots of Academy Award winning death scenes.

    Anyway, I'm a huge fan (also played for years and have a couple years of assistant refereeing under my belt), so I say that in jest, even though it's quite true. I find that most who don't know much about it are mostly concerned when the whistle is blown for fouls and the offside call.

    Pretty accurate rundown on yellow/red cardable offenses. You can be in an off-side position without being penalized. It's when you make a play for a ball passed while you are in the off-side position that the off-side call is made. This is why you'll see players too slow to get back in on-side position make it very obvious they're not involved in the play, and why if there are players in an off-side position off-sides is not called. In that case a player was able to run onto and receive the ball from an onside position. Many times that's missed because everyone's focused on the off-side player waiting for the whistle to blow.

    Anyway, I'm very jealous! Enjoy! Just jump, holler, wave a scarf in the air, and boo/cheer with the crowd and you're good.



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    jmk-brooklyn - 2011-09-10 6:01 PM I have a rules question also. My kid was playing goalkeeper in his U-8 league this morning and he made a save at the goal line. He picked up the ball and was carrying it closer to the top of the penalty area to kick it out when the ref stopped him and made him go back and kick it from inside the smaller box close to the goal opening. I thought the keeper could handle the ball Anywhere inside the penalty box, so I'm not sure why the ref brought him back inside the goal box. Can someone clarify this rule for me?

    He can/should be allowed to handle the ball anywhere inside the penalty box.

    Sometimes, some rule changes are made in younger leagues, but I had never heard of this one.

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    jmk-brooklyn - 2011-09-10 5:01 PM I have a rules question also. My kid was playing goalkeeper in his U-8 league this morning and he made a save at the goal line. He picked up the ball and was carrying it closer to the top of the penalty area to kick it out when the ref stopped him and made him go back and kick it from inside the smaller box close to the goal opening. I thought the keeper could handle the ball Anywhere inside the penalty box, so I'm not sure why the ref brought him back inside the goal box. Can someone clarify this rule for me?

     

    I know when I played soccer around age 7-8 the goalie was only allowed to take 4 steps with the ball when they picked it up in our league. Might be a similar rule?

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    So what did you think of the game?
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