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2005-12-16 10:14 AM

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Subject: Running your Dog
I am taking in a 2.5 year female lab from a friend to see if I want to keep her or not.  I want to be able to take her running with me.  She hasn't really been run before, so I don't want to hurt or injure her.  Can anyone give me any guidance and let me know what's the best way to break her in for running?  Should I just start walking her for awhile and then layer try running a little bit?  I know labs love to run but I don't know how much is too much for them- especially when starting out.


2005-12-16 10:18 AM
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Work on her base for the first few sessions, steadily increasing as the weeks go on.

I would not recommend any sort of tempo or interval work for the first few months as her system may not be up for it .......

Oh wait, you're talking about the lab.

Start with playing "fetch" and see if she digs that. It is a good way to build the fitness, and if she will not get it and doesn't have fun with it, then she is a defective lab.

My weimaraner can run me into the ground ........ she's an absolute fitness beast!
2005-12-16 10:31 AM
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I have two Golden Retrievers who love to run.  The recommendations I have gotten from the Vet and the trainer is to run them on soft surfaces and bring water for them.  Since the dog is 2 1/2 you don't need to worry much about growth plate development or any of the other problems associated with running younger dogs.  I have a good sized yard and my dogs already run a lot so I don't tend to worry about time running as much as I do temperature and availability of water.  I also give doggie massages after a long run.  People may think this stupid or unnecessary, but my vet said it would have the same benefits of humans getting a message.  Good luck with the lab!

Edit: Unless inside or on a track I always have a dog with me when I run. 



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2005-12-16 10:31 AM
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make sure they have something to drink or eat, let them rest during the run if they act like an anchor.  Especially if it's a warm day. 
2005-12-16 10:36 AM
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I plan on bringing water for her when I run.  I have seen some doggie water bottles/cups that people use when they run their dogs.  I'll probably get one of those.  Or I can oder a larger fuel belt and strap it on her when I run since I hate wearing mine.  Then we could split the bottles   She's going to be the best running partner ever!

2005-12-16 10:38 AM
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Many vets and dog books advise against regularly running w/ a dog. Most are not meant to exert themselves for longer periods. I wouldn't take a lab out for more than 1 -2 miles. Given thier propensity to hip displacia excessive runnnig could exasperate the problem. When my lab was younger I took her. I found it very distracting as she wanted to stop to smell everything, stop to releive herself and after 1 mile just stop. She's 12 now and retired!

That being said, my sister has a black lab that loves to run w/ her (only short runs). So really it's up to the dog and the owner. Just keep'em short.


2005-12-16 10:39 AM
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While it has been some years since I have done it, running with a dog is awesome!  It's nice to run with someone who does nothing but smile the whole time

Be careful in that it is pretty easy for a dog to overheat - even out in the cold - and there are no real 'warning signs' that I came across prior to my old roommate's dog lying down and twitching.  The vet said she was okay - just dehydrated/overheated - but boy was that a scary instance!

You're a good friend to take in the 2 1/2 yr old dog.



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2005-12-16 10:47 AM
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runnergirl29 - 2005-12-16 6:14 AM

 I am taking in a 2.5 year female lab from a friend to see if I want to keep her or not.

And later that same morning...

runnergirl29 - 2005-12-16 6:36 AM

I plan on bringing water for her when I run.  I have seen some doggie water bottles/cups that people use when they run their dogs.  I'll probably get one of those.  Or I can oder a larger fuel belt and strap it on her when I run since I hate wearing mine.  Then we could split the bottles   She's going to be the best running partner ever!

It looks like Janelle has a dog.

2005-12-16 11:30 AM
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runnergirl29 - 2005-12-16 10:36 AM

She's going to be the best running partner ever!




You said it. My lab loves to run w/ me. I've never done more than 4.2 w/ him, but it didn't even phase him. The only thing that gets him is the heat. Just work your way up slowly and be conciecious of her needs and you and she will be fine.

After every run w/ my lab I look at him and he looks at me, and then I say "Thanks, for the run Murph. You're a good training partner."

Sometimes I think he knows what I'm saying.....

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2005-12-16 11:57 AM
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I run w/ my lab (Otis) occasionally. It's hard b/c he wants to smell everything....and since he weighs 100lbs it gets a bit tiring trying to pull him away from whatever it is that he is smelling. Normally, I try to keep our runs around 2-3 miles, especially in the summer, b/c I worry a/b his hydration.
2005-12-16 12:11 PM
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My dog will go 2-3 miles pretty well with me.  After that, she's a little pokey. Try a mile or 2 first and see how she does.  If she hasn't been run regularly, she will experience muscle soreness just like people do.

 As far as the sniffing and pottying problems, we you can create "rules" for runs/walks. For example, when I first got my dog, we did not leave for walk until she eliminiated in our yard. Then, off we went!  No need to carry poop then (which is gross). We also have sniffing rules.  You can sniff on certain streets (at beginning and end of workout), otherwise, I keep moving. If she get's yanked/jerked, her own fault. She learned that fast. The first few runs could involve lots of sniffing, but dogs are smart, she'll learn your rules quickly.

I never knew how much I would love having a dog. 



2005-12-16 12:11 PM
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I have 2 mutts also and keep their leashes attached to my belt. Helps with a more natural arm movement. Careful not to trip on the leashes though.
2005-12-16 12:21 PM
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rollinbones - 2005-12-16 9:38 AM

Many vets and dog books advise against regularly running w/ a dog.


If you have a breed that loves to run, like a lab, that's just crazy talk. A housemate of mine would go running with her lab and then go mountain biking with her because if she didn't run a few hours a day the damn dog would pace the house all night!

Now I have a Newfie who will go all day at a swift trot, hauling a load, but is NOT a runner. I wouldn't even try.

2005-12-16 12:25 PM
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One of my running partners has a springer that she takes running with us. They both started running at the same time, so the dog built a base along with her. They've been running together for about 3 years now and this dog is a beast. I have never seen a dog with muscle tone like that.

As was said before, just remember that your dog is new to running and should be treated like any other new runner. Shorter runs at first with rest days to help recovery. Also realize that just like you, an athletic dog is going to need a different diet. If he's already not on a premium food, such as Nutro, Pro-plan, Eagle, ect (no I don't consider Iams or Eukanuba premium), then it's time to switch. The more you get into it, I would even switch to a High energy or premium performance food (Nutro has a great one) that will have the right protein to carb ratio that he needs for his less then sedentary lifestyle.

Slovegreen is completely right about rules too. You may even consider taking an obediece class with him to teach him the rules of walking on a leash. Basicly the big things he should learn are to stay with you (not pull), stop and sit when you stop (helpfull for road crossings), to ignore other people/dogs/wild animals/piles of stinky stuff on the ground, and to come to you he's called (in case he manages to get off the leash). I used to work as an obedience training instructor, so if you'd like any advice on anything, just let me know
2005-12-16 12:46 PM
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I love running with my dog! She's a lab/golden mix and loves to run. Plus, she helps me up the hills. Make sure to "listen" to her when you run. Rylie (that's her at left) kept pulling to the side once when we both first started running, and I thought she just wanted to sniff stuff. But she had to go to the bathroom. She usually doesn't try to pick up scents when we're running, unless I'm having a really slow day
2005-12-16 1:01 PM
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watergirl - 2005-12-16 1:46 PM I love running with my dog! She's a lab/golden mix and loves to run. Plus, she helps me up the hills. Make sure to "listen" to her when you run. Rylie (that's her at left) kept pulling to the side once when we both first started running, and I thought she just wanted to sniff stuff. But she had to go to the bathroom. She usually doesn't try to pick up scents when we're running, unless I'm having a really slow day

What's the farthest distance you've run her?  Just curious.



2005-12-16 1:21 PM
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How does running affect their pads? My dogs pads look "dry." Like dry skin on hands...
2005-12-16 1:24 PM
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So far, about four miles. But right now that's about as far as I can go. She's a great help this time of year because it gets dark so early. When is your first run?
2005-12-16 1:26 PM
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My dog has had problems w/ his pads becoming dry and then cracked. A vet told me to use neopsorin if the pads crack and to keep him off his feet as much as possible. If the pads are just dry, it could be the colder weather. Just monitor them closely and he should be fine.
2005-12-16 1:32 PM
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CLLinIA - 2005-12-16 1:21 PM

rollinbones - 2005-12-16 9:38 AM

Many vets and dog books advise against regularly running w/ a dog.


If you have a breed that loves to run, like a lab, that's just crazy talk.



I have to disgree with that. Most dogs love to eat too. i wouldn't let them eat all day either. I did say each dog is different and I think, like us, in moderation it won't hurt.

As to Labs specifically, they are sporting dogs bred to hunt. They can walk and track all day, jump incredibly high and swim better than most dogs. The are fiercely loyal and obedient to a fault. Smart, not necessarily. They can be trained and conditoned to do almost anything. Running, sure. Simple enough and they'll probably enjoy most if it. Problem comes from over excertion/dehydration. They will literally run themselves into the ground if they thinnk it's making their owner/trainer happy. All they want to do is please. I personally wouldn't/don't do it. I'd just ask dog owners to be prudent cuz dogs are people too!
2005-12-16 1:51 PM
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dogs will run themselves into the ground, but so will many people. Training a dog as a running partner is almost exactly like training a human.

Just as you couldn't run 3 miles when you first started without injury, neither can your dog. Just as you need proper hydration and nutrition, so does your dog.

I would take him out on shorter runs once or twice a week. Maybe do a route that loops where you do 2 miles, pass back by your house then do some more, so you can take your dog out for 2 miles, then drop him off and finish the run alone. As he gest stronger, obviously he can run further. Just keep in mind the hydration/nutrition issues so that he is capable of building a base. It probably would also be good to put him on glucosamine


2005-12-16 1:59 PM
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Remember the dog may let some rip during your run so be prepared.

runnergirl29 - 2005-12-16 10:36 AM

I plan on bringing water for her when I run.  I have seen some doggie water bottles/cups that people use when they run their dogs.  I'll probably get one of those.  Or I can oder a larger fuel belt and strap it on her when I run since I hate wearing mine.  Then we could split the bottles   She's going to be the best running partner ever!

2005-12-16 2:01 PM
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I"ve heard of some people letting their drink drink a little bit of a sports drink. Is this safe?  I mean I know water is the way to go but would a little bit of a sports dirnk hurt them?  Just curious.
2005-12-16 2:39 PM
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Dogs eat dog food and drink water only! Well, a little beer now and again never hurt anybody
2005-12-16 2:40 PM
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Gotta love Dog talk, it put me over 600 posts. Thanks Janelle!
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