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George W. Bush: The Good Things (Page 6)
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 2006-01-31 11:53 AM in reply to: #335646 |
Got Wahoo?  5423   San Antonio |  Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good ThingsNow you've gone and pissed of Garyellendana! |
| 2006-01-31 12:00 PM in reply to: #335650 |
Expert 1279  Northern VA | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things tmwelshy - 2006-01-31 12:53 PM Now you've gone and pissed of Garyellendana! LOL, I'm not pissed, I just like the idea of deciding what to do with the money I earn (what little I have). As many people have noted, there are too many abuses with our welfare system. Even with charities that I contribute to, I'm concerned that funds are not going to those who truly need/deserve them.
Edited by glf33 2006-01-31 12:02 PM |
| 2006-01-31 12:09 PM in reply to: #333173 |
Master 4101 Denver | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things Poor choice of words on my part. I'm not a commie. Really. |
| 2006-01-31 12:09 PM in reply to: #335155 |
| Elite 2458 Livingston, MT | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things Brett - 2006-01-30 4:03 PM ChuckyFinster - 2006-01-30 5:54 PM It would seem that TurboTax is not doing me any justice then. If you're clearing 500 large a year I would invest in a CPA and not use just TurboTax
bts Oh brother I wish. But I'm not dropping 40% of my reportable income, I'm only dropping about 20% which means there has got to be more loopholes that TurboTax is not finding that I should be taking advantage of. |
| 2006-01-31 12:18 PM in reply to: #335665 |
Got Wahoo? 5423 San Antonio | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things drewb8 - 2006-01-31 11:09 AM Poor choice of words on my part. I'm not a commie. Really.
I dated a communist once. Violent as hell, but there are some things you jsut have to do when the chance arises - movie star, world leader, communist.
*sigh* ....I miss her.... |
| 2006-01-31 1:01 PM in reply to: #333173 |
Master 4101 Denver | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things If only you went out with Gorbechev instead you could have ticked off two at the same time... |
| 2006-01-31 1:14 PM in reply to: #335726 |
Got Wahoo? 5423 San Antonio | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things I was always attracted to that red splotch.... |
| 2006-01-31 1:37 PM in reply to: #335726 |
Elite 2421 | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things drewb8 - 2006-01-31 12:01 PM If only you went out with Gorbechev instead you could have ticked off two at the same time... He actually spoke at M.U. a few months back... he's much shorter than I pictured... Appologies, hijack over... let the hippies and the backwood's hillbillies commence their battle...
bts Edited by Brett 2006-01-31 1:42 PM |
| 2006-01-31 2:55 PM in reply to: #335590 |
| Elite 2458 Livingston, MT | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things tsmith - 2006-01-31 8:10 AM Our system is really a heirarchy. Each sucessive level is dependent on the one below it to provide various types of labour, either intelectual or physical. This heirarchy rests on the the very bottom which are the guys who usualy do day labour maybe painters--my experiance, I work in construction, either way the idea is aplicable across the board. Without the people that work for us, most of us would not have what we do. You are looking at the hierarchy from the bottom up. If you start from the top you will see that each level is dependent on the one above it such that a Construction worker like yourself has a job because someone took personal initiative and great deal of risk to invest in a business opportunity that allowed for you to work. Construction workers do not secure their own work. Construction workers risk nothing other than their health when they go to work. If the project fails, the construction worker doesn't care, he moves on to the next gig. The investor is the one that takes it in the shorts. You despise the people that take the biggest risks and provide for your livelihood and you put the common worker on a pedestal. The common worker is just that, common. They are owed only what they have earned and nothing more. The ideas that you espouse only benefit me. Sure, I have to pay more in taxes to keep the masses at bay, but in the end your way of thinking only secures a brighter future for me. FWIW, I am self made. I have only a community college AA degree that I earned while working fulltime and going to school parttime all the while with a child and wife to support. My formal education outside of my formative years has done very little for me and my self-education has done wonders. My parents are dirt poor, but I'm blessed by the fact that my father taught me to work hard and keep an eye out for opportunity. I encircle myself with like minded individuals. The number of "friends" that I have I can count on my fingers of one hand. Success breeds success and when you constantly succeed, you start to wonder why those that aren't successful can't succeed. I've given it a lot of thought and in the end, it's what's between the ears and not what's in the wallet that makes someone a winner. |
| 2006-01-31 3:25 PM in reply to: #335841 |
Veteran 171 Decatur GA | Subject: RE: George W. Bush: The Good Things In my previous posts on this topic I mentioned the that the relationship does go both ways. Its not a top down or bottom up issue, the fact is that in most cases neither would be around without the other. I'm not spouting off any progressive liberal ideas here, all I'm sayin is that I think that a tax system that resembles the one we have is appropriate. I'm not advocating raising taxes, perhaps spending the money more efficiently, but certaintly nothing drastic. I realize that there are flaws that have been pointed out and do need to be corected. I do not believe that indescriminate handouts are good, in fact I think that they are probably the worse thing that we could possibly do. I absolutly understand where you are coming from talking about the risk involved. I work in construction managment for a large commercial construction company in Atlanta. I am the one that manages each project and is ultimantly reponsible for the money made or lost during construction. All I am saying is that our wonderful capitalist system is not without flaws. We need to realize that as much opertunity as it presents for a large section of society, it also mandates that some people will have to live at the poverty level. I believe that we need to be greatful for the system we have; count our blessings that we have the opertunity that we do; and remember that not everyone in America is able to be sucessful. It is these people that I believe we owe help. |
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