Sexual abuse charges Rock Penn State University (Page 13)

Nice post Left Brain.

I'm not worried about anyone further trying to protect Sandusky. That ship sailed. But now, the circle-the-wagons mentality that led to rioting at JoePa's dismissal, that's the stuff that sticks. Now we have McQueary saying he met campus police in a very off-the-record situation. They say they knew nothing.

So we have two possible scenarios, both very easy to believe. #1 - McQueary is now sweetening his story due to public outrage. Says he did more. #2 - The campus police never made official record of this conversation, because that's what campus police often do to keep things quiet.

As much as I am inclined to believe #2, and it it makes for a good conspiracy, the lack of mention of reporting in the grand jury report leads me to think #1 is much more likely. Granted, I have been reminded that grand jury reports are never the complete set of information in a case, but you'd think if you were the guy who caught a child rape, you'd LEAD WITH THAT. To now say "oh but I did stop it and call police" - really? Why didn't you say that before?

I'm going with scenario #1. The initial reports were that he did not stop, he closed the door to the locker room and went home and consulted his dad, then talked to Joe Paterno the next day. I think now that he is taking heat for not  doing more at the time he is saying he did to try and save face. I would like to think that if he did do more it would have been in the grand jury report.

I'm also going with scenario #1. Imagine you had seen what he reportedly saw, and then stopped it and notified the police along with your boss. When the news reports start to come out and make it look like you simply walked away, never notifying anyone beyond your boss and father, wouldn't you try to clarify the record ASAP? I would hope most people would stop the abuse at the time, and would be horrified to have any lingering impressions that they did not take vigorous action.

Also, as far as the "old boy network", don't you think McQueery has been a beneficiary of this all along? How was the system manipulating him before (except to tell him to keep his trap shut and he would get to follow in JoePa's place). And remember it is not just a single witness or victim being reported. There were numerous victims. If Sandusky DOES manage to avoid a criminal suit, he will surely be sued and lose a civil suit which has a lower burden of proof (c.f. OJ Simpson).

There are numerous victims, which is the point I was trying to toss in. So even if his testimony doesn't help, it won't hurt, and it won't be simply one kid saying "this is what happened to me", but a string of kids. How many kids do you think it would take sitting in succession in the witness box with similar tales of being groomed and ultimately abused to convince a jury that something happened?

The New York Times article that I cited in the previous page of posts claimed that he spoke to the police in 2010, after the police contacted him due to rumors that were brought to their attention. They were already investigating Sandusky at the time. So, if the article is true, he did tell the police himself ... after the police contacted him 8 years after the fact.

He also said something like "I made sure it stopped" which can mean he stopped it or Sandusky stopped after he saw McQueary.

I was in a relationship with a manipulative dissembler, someone who took no responsibility for his actions and lack of actions. I recognize when words are used to misrepresent, provide false cover while not technically being a lie. Prevaricate. McQueary's choice of words struck me as being intentionally misleading - while his words were not inaccurate, they give a false appearance, if the NYT story is accurate.

We are in the stage now where there is not as much information coming out so the rumors start to circulate.  I read in the NY time that a source with knowledge of the Grand Jury report had said that what McQueary stated in his email is in line with his Grand Jury testimony.

One thing to keep in mind is that all the information collected during the Grand Jury testimony doesn’t make it to the report.  So in reality we have to wait to see those details.

My personal opinion is that he never expected to be feeling this much Heat and that know he is trying to manipulate the situation to his favor.  Hopefully in the process he doesn’t put the trial in jeopardy, but we have to wait and see.

Definitely agree.  And thanks Left Brain.

Looks like Paterno has lung cancer.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57327897/joe-paterno-has-lung-cancer-son-says/?tag=breakingnews

I'm glad he didn't face his accusers today. Hearing his lawyer speak it sounded like he was going to put the accusers on trial, that irritates me.

Absolutely a circus.  I didn't realize it was starting tomorrow.