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2006-03-29 11:13 AM

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Subject: Running hills vs. flat terrain
I recently started doing 5 mile runs on a regular basis and try to keep different routes when I can. There is one in particular that has a lot of hills, some steep and short, others long and somewhat steady.

My imagination tells me there is more benefit to doing the hills on a regular basis as opposed to running flat all the time (strength building, endurance increase, etc.)
On the con side of this, the only thing that comes to mind is maybe the knees take more of a beating going down? (mine did yesterday)


Your views & experience appreciated.


2006-03-29 11:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
Chicago has no hills so at the moment I train on flats.

When I lived in a hilly area one day a week was devoted to hill work. We had a 6 mile run that we did every Thursday. We would warm up to the hill, then run hard up it, then recover for a bit (slow running) then normal pace back. That saved the knees/quads/shins from excess stress on the downs (although we did have a downhill speed workout we did once or twice a year) and got the benefits of the uphill.

Man, I miss that run...
2006-03-29 11:39 AM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
Try to do a mixture of both.
2006-03-29 11:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain

Running up hills all the time can hurt your achilles tendons.  Believe me, I know from experience.  It does also work slightly different muscle groups than running on flat. 

If you're specifically training for a flat race, I would train mostly flat (or vice-versa).  For general training, I try to do a mix of both. 

2006-03-29 11:51 AM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
The terrain in Athens doesn't give me a choice of not having hills, unless I run the same route over and over and over. If you have a race coming up that you know is going to be hilly, you'll need to get in some hill workouts. Plus, it will make you appreciate flat ground so much more! If not, and your knees are bothering you, I'd personally stay flat except maybe one short day a week of hills.
2006-03-29 11:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
I dont have a lot of choice on shorter runs but to hit hilly areas and have had an issue on the back of my knee (kind of feels like a sprain or hyperextension) happen twice in the past.  Dont know if hills are to blame or not but just think it is a weird spot for it to keep happeninig.  I do find that long hill runs are great for short speed runs.


2006-03-29 12:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
Running hills is great for building strength and also can be used in place of speedwork (decreases the pounding the joints take doing speedwork on flats).

When running downhill, don't try to chase HR or go really fast (that will add to the stress on your legs - knees especially) just concentrate on maintaining a smooth easy stride. This can help to build durability provided you don't injure yourself in the process - take it slow and easy.

If this still provides too much stress, try walking down the hills.

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2006-03-29 12:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain

A lot of people underestimate the amount of stress that downhill running has.  You're quads are working a lot harder going down hill because you have gravity + weight.  That's why Boston is such a killer course.  I've heard that if you aren't ready for the down hill, it becomes a VERY long race. 

I've been doing squats and lunges getting ready for it.  Also, we have a "hilly" 5 mile loop in a park that I try and pound out to get my legs use to it.  The first couple of times, my knees and quads were killing me.  Just be smart about it and your body will adjust.  I personally think that if you train on hills, the flats are much easier.

2006-03-29 1:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
I use to run hills several times a week - but I believe it was contributing to some ongoing lower leg pain I was having. I know approach them like speed work. Now, I typically do a hill workout once a week. It definately helps....I have ran many races that were not flat and I know the training was beneficial. Just be careful on how much you do. And the previous post about downhill running is very true it can be extremely hard on your legs.

2006-03-29 3:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
After seeing what Connemara has to offer...I think I'm better prepared to handle hills than I thought. I like the challenge of hills...it's like playing a game to see if I can keep my HR in check and what have you. But at the same time, the flats make me feel like I was just set down on earth to run, and I fall into this great pattern and what have you.
2006-03-29 10:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain

I run a hilly course about once/week, maybe once every other week it just depends on other factors (time of day increases traffic, mostly).   Later in the season I'll replace the moderate hilly run with hill repeats, maybe.  I don't plan to do any hilly races this year.

 If you are going to specifically train on hills I would say do it no more than once/week, and make it your "short run".  My typical hill repeat run isn't more than 35 min, and it takes about 7 minutes running time to get to the hill.  Also if  you are in your first season I would absolutely leave it out for this season, as it's very stressful on your joints/tendons and will increase your risk of injury.

I feel that hill training improved my running.  Especially since I really really hate speedwork and never do it.



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2006-03-29 11:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Running hills vs. flat terrain
Thanks all for your input. Pretty much as I expected that hills do, do a number on the lower half of the body. I'll try to keep them to a once a week set up then.
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