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2011-12-22 7:17 PM

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WTH ? He also wishes the son "every success". Seriously ???? He should take Sean Penn with him and share in the mourning for the Dear Leader.... and take Chavez too.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/dec/21/ex-...

How about a letter to the people of NK for all the oppression and hell they have been through. Complete and total tyranny and poverty is what they have experienced.

John McCain actually had a nice comment: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2011/12/mccain-kim-jongil... Not a huge fan of McCain but he nailed this one. Agree 100 %.

In some sick way, maybe this is "proper" diplomacy ?


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2011-12-22 8:39 PM
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tri42 - 2011-12-22 8:17 PM WTH ? He also wishes the son "every success". Seriously ???? He should take Sean Penn with him and share in the mourning for the Dear Leader.... and take Chavez too. http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/dec/21/ex-... How about a letter to the people of NK for all the oppression and hell they have been through. Complete and total tyranny and poverty is what they have experienced. John McCain actually had a nice comment: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2011/12/mccain-kim-jongil... Not a huge fan of McCain but he nailed this one. Agree 100 %. In some sick way, maybe this is "proper" diplomacy ?

Does urinating on the grave serve any purpose?  Since we haven't read the complete letter/message, it's probably not fair to pass judgement on his "condolences," right?  Jimmy Carter seems like a guy who's not to keen on human rights abuses, and perhaps he sees a path to change in N. Korea is possible with a change in leadership.  Perhaps with the old tyrant out of the way, perhaps, just perhaps, there is a chance for positive change.

(btw, the McCain link didn't work for me) I take it John said yes to my 1st sentence's question.  

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tri42 - 2011-12-22 8:17 PM WTH ? He also wishes the son "every success". Seriously ???? He should take Sean Penn with him and share in the mourning for the Dear Leader.... and take Chavez too. http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/dec/21/ex-... How about a letter to the people of NK for all the oppression and hell they have been through. Complete and total tyranny and poverty is what they have experienced. John McCain actually had a nice comment: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2011/12/mccain-kim-jongil... Not a huge fan of McCain but he nailed this one. Agree 100 %. In some sick way, maybe this is "proper" diplomacy ?

Does urinating on the grave serve any purpose?  Since we haven't read the complete letter/message, it's probably not fair to pass judgement on his "condolences," right?  Jimmy Carter seems like a guy who's not to keen on human rights abuses, and perhaps he sees a path to change in N. Korea is possible with a change in leadership.  Perhaps with the old tyrant out of the way, perhaps, just perhaps, there is a chance for positive change.

(btw, the McCain link didn't work for me) I take it John said yes to my 1st sentence's question.  



I'm hoping that's what he's thinking. Perhaps some hope. But the Dear Leader deserves no sympathy ever.
2011-12-22 9:32 PM
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In what capacity was Carter writing the letter? If it was as a private citizen, it would be a bit looney. But I suspect it is more to try to work with diplomatic communications. In which case, making nice sounds is the appropriate action. Do we really want to make the north koreans even more paranoid about the west?
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gearboy - 2011-12-22 10:32 PM In what capacity was Carter writing the letter? If it was as a private citizen, it would be a bit looney. But I suspect it is more to try to work with diplomatic communications. In which case, making nice sounds is the appropriate action. Do we really want to make the north koreans even more paranoid about the west?

Exactly.  Let's face it, the North Koreans are just a tad bit detached from what the rest of the world considers "reality."  A good analogy would be coming upon a demented patient in a hospital spewing nonsensical ramblings about the water fountain being God.  Do you a) tell the crazy guy he's crazy and make him angrier and more likely to lash out?  b) ignore him, and hope he doesn't lash out?  or c) from a safe distance, establish a dialogue in the hopes that he is less likely to lash out in the future?    I'll choose c.  

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