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2012-04-20 6:18 PM
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adamisr - 2012-04-20 6:09 PM

Why do I have a feeling they will cancel the bike part?

This looks pretty (very) bad. 

http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/USLA0338?phenomena=WI&significance=Y&areaid=LAZ062&office=KLIX&etn=0003

 

That's the advisory from the NOAA/NWS that I have been telling people about all day.  Nice that weather.com finally put something up there... not that they changed their forecast.

Everyone just wants to look at The Weather Channel's website (weather.com) which has a forecast very different than NOAA/NWS or Weather Underground (which uses the NOAA/NWS forecasts). Weather.com's forecasts are usually best case scenario which is probably unrealistic 90% of the time.  That advisory is what made my final decision to bail on the race.  No way the swim happens if the conditions are nearly as bad as the advisory and I'd agree the bike could be in jeopardy as well.



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2012-04-20 6:45 PM
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I have a wheelcover from Wheelbuilder.com, used it last year in the high winds and will do again this year.
2012-04-20 7:11 PM
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GMAN 19030 - 2012-04-20 6:18 PM
adamisr - 2012-04-20 6:09 PM

Why do I have a feeling they will cancel the bike part?

This looks pretty (very) bad. 

http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/USLA0338?phenomena=WI&significance=Y&areaid=LAZ062&office=KLIX&etn=0003

 

That's the advisory from the NOAA/NWS that I have been telling people about all day.  Nice that weather.com finally put something up there... not that they changed their forecast.

Everyone just wants to look at The Weather Channel's website (weather.com) which has a forecast very different than NOAA/NWS or Weather Underground (which uses the NOAA/NWS forecasts). Weather.com's forecasts are usually best case scenario which is probably unrealistic 90% of the time.  That advisory is what made my final decision to bail on the race.  No way the swim happens if the conditions are nearly as bad as the advisory and I'd agree the bike could be in jeopardy as well.

In my opinion the weather.com is always the worst case scenario not the best. 3/4 of the time it shows thunderstorms and we rarely get any. It doesn't matter at this point. I'm already here so it will be what it will be. Wish everyone best of luck no matter what the race turns out to be.
2012-04-21 7:24 AM
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Have they ever cancelled an event due to high wind? Riding the bike is not fun into 35MPH winds...but it is doable. Just curious if it's actually considered "safe" enough or anyone has seen them cancel due to wind. Still hoping I get to do my first HIM (optimistic eh...or dreaming maybe)!
2012-04-21 9:34 AM
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Tri-a-betic - 2012-04-20 4:27 PM Is anyone considering using a disc? I have a shollow front wheel (40mm) im going to go with and im thinking maybe a disc with that may work....but if not I just have to use the rear 40mm as well. Really want to use the disc but not sure how it will turn out.

Tri-a-betic and other DISC Wheel Riders: 

Disc's in High Winds are usually not allowed.  See history of this at Kona.  Also, that solid wheel acts like a sail... so when you're hit with a 35 MPH Wind gust it is strong enough to topple you over. 

I would go with a shallow wheel.  I'm riding Zipp 303's.

2012-04-21 9:59 AM
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FYI for bike check-in


New Orleans, LA – Due to expected rain and high winds later today, the Blue Angels air show will change its start time to noon. The show will end at 2:00 PM. The schedule is still subject to change based on changing weather conditions.


2012-04-21 11:00 AM
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CarlaLThompson - 2012-04-21 9:34 AM

Tri-a-betic - 2012-04-20 4:27 PM Is anyone considering using a disc? I have a shollow front wheel (40mm) im going to go with and im thinking maybe a disc with that may work....but if not I just have to use the rear 40mm as well. Really want to use the disc but not sure how it will turn out.

Tri-a-betic and other DISC Wheel Riders: 

Disc's in High Winds are usually not allowed.  See history of this at Kona.  Also, that solid wheel acts like a sail... so when you're hit with a 35 MPH Wind gust it is strong enough to topple you over. 

I would go with a shallow wheel.  I'm riding Zipp 303's.

The reason they don't allow discs at windy races like Kona is not because of the disc but because of what front wheel people use in combination with the disc.  Without getting into a whole bunch of science about it, the disc helps stabilize the bike in all conditions.  The problem is the front wheel.  The deeper the front wheel, the more difficult the handling.  Basically the rule is in place as a stupid-o-meter because people will use a too deep front wheel with the disc which can and will cause handling issues in high crosswinds.

It's cycling urban legend that the disc causes the problem.  That defies scientific explanation.  It may sound back asswards but it's the truth. 

The disc is fine.  Run a more shallow wheel on the front if concerned about the wind.



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2012-04-21 11:44 AM
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swim cancelled
2012-04-21 12:01 PM
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Blue Angel air shows have been cancelled for both today and tomorrow.
2012-04-21 4:01 PM
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GMAN 19030 - 2012-04-21 11:00 AM
CarlaLThompson - 2012-04-21 9:34 AM

Tri-a-betic - 2012-04-20 4:27 PM Is anyone considering using a disc? I have a shollow front wheel (40mm) im going to go with and im thinking maybe a disc with that may work....but if not I just have to use the rear 40mm as well. Really want to use the disc but not sure how it will turn out.

Tri-a-betic and other DISC Wheel Riders: 

Disc's in High Winds are usually not allowed.  See history of this at Kona.  Also, that solid wheel acts like a sail... so when you're hit with a 35 MPH Wind gust it is strong enough to topple you over. 

I would go with a shallow wheel.  I'm riding Zipp 303's.

The reason they don't allow discs at windy races like Kona is not because of the disc but because of what front wheel people use in combination with the disc.  Without getting into a whole bunch of science about it, the disc helps stabilize the bike in all conditions.  The problem is the front wheel.  The deeper the front wheel, the more difficult the handling.  Basically the rule is in place as a stupid-o-meter because people will use a too deep front wheel with the disc which can and will cause handling issues in high crosswinds.

It's cycling urban legend that the disc causes the problem.  That defies scientific explanation.  It may sound back asswards but it's the truth. 

The disc is fine.  Run a more shallow wheel on the front if concerned about the wind.

GMAN - Thanks for the insight on the Disc's

I'll have to read up on this as I would be interested in the physics behind it all.

 

2012-04-21 5:20 PM
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Took this video in transition and then helped re-build it! Whoops!! Crazy wind!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgH3dr-QTnA



2012-04-21 7:29 PM
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spuphal - 2012-04-21 6:20 PMTook this video in transition and then helped re-build it! Whoops!! Crazy wind!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgH3dr-QTnA
Will be quite a party tomorrow once the winds really pick up....Hope everyone out there was alright.
2012-04-21 8:15 PM
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Yo its going to be a draft fest tomorrow going out. Those bridges are going to be packed
2012-04-21 8:18 PM
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I'm #1397 tomorrow, Team RWB tri kit, P2 with rear disc cover, say hi. See you guys out there
2012-04-21 9:11 PM
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Bib #1566 Team RWB relay. Stop by and say hi!

2012-04-22 5:18 PM
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I had a rough day out there, those winds wrecked me. Did a 5:09. My one goal going into the race was a sub 2 hour run split and I managed a 1:56 so happy I achieved that. I was that dork with the cameraman following me.

How did you guy's race go?



2012-04-22 5:27 PM
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Hey all!

I did okay with a 5:26, 1st half of the run I was on a great pace for a 2:10 run but 2nd half died when my knee starting hurting.  I am very happy with my bike time, gotta love those tail winds!

Overall a good day and am quite happy.

2012-04-22 6:32 PM
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4:20 with a bike avg of 22 which I was happy with considering how windy it was. I think the wind cost me about 1-1.5mph with the same effort. Beautiful day temp wise and actually felt kind of hot on the run.
2012-04-23 10:35 AM
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Not a bad day here best him run fore ever and avoided all of the bike wrecks so it aw a good day. To bad it was not a full him I would have beat my pr by 45 min. Not sure of If i will race here again parts of the bile course where very dangerous.
2012-04-24 10:33 AM
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Well, it was just a long training day for me.  My run training isn't where it needs to be this early in the season, so that was a huge implosion...legs fell off about mile 5 of the 2nd run.  Had a good bike for me. No crashes.  Wind was ...um...windy!   I liked the run course, except I don't do well on concrete, so my knees and feet were not super happy.

Wonder what a mess the bike would have been if we had to deal with airshow car traffic? Glad it was cancelled.

And can race directors not ever get the mileage right on where aid stations are going to be?  Indicated with course revision that aid was at miles 11/26/41....actual was more in the neighborhood of 18/30/41?   Not a huge deal, but not hard for them to get that right. 

2012-04-24 11:56 AM
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spuphal - 2012-04-21 6:20 PM Took this video in transition and then helped re-build it! Whoops!! Crazy wind! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgH3dr-QTnA
Wow, this video is crazy! Thanks for posting!


2012-04-24 12:36 PM
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Hey all!

one question, for those that did the 2011 race would you say the wind was stronger this year?  Trying level set as I look at my times. 

As for the temps, yeah a little warm but compared to 2010 it was wonderful.  I think last year was a little cooler.

2012-04-24 7:03 PM
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One more question (I posted this in the Louisana forum but will post here also):

Anyone have info on the where they are moving the swim to?  I am assuming that means the bike and run will change also?

2012-04-25 5:09 AM
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So, is anyone going to sign up for next year's race for $150? I am already in for Muncie and Augsuta so I won't be able to get that $50 off
2012-04-25 6:03 AM
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jillian_o - 2012-04-25 5:09 AM So, is anyone going to sign up for next year's race for $150? I am already in for Muncie and Augsuta so I won't be able to get that $50 off

My BF and I are tempted....we had fun, in spite of the issues. At least we have a few days to make the decision.

The $50 off prob isn't going to work for me for other races due to my work and other race schedule, though Augusta looks tempting. Have you done that one before?

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