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 2012-02-04 11:19 PM in reply to: #4028098 |
Coach  9167     Stairway to Seven |  Subject: RE: What Running Technique Works for You?Factors affecting running economy in trained distance runners. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15233599 ... A number of physiological and biomechanical factors appear to influence RE in highly trained or elite runners. These include metabolic adaptations within the muscle such as increased mitochondria and oxidative enzymes, the ability of the muscles to store and release elastic energy by increasing the stiffness of the muscles, and more efficient mechanics leading to less energy wasted on braking forces and excessive vertical oscillation. Interventions to improve RE are constantly sought after by athletes, coaches and sport scientists. ... Edited by AdventureBear 2012-02-04 11:20 PM |
| 2012-02-04 11:40 PM in reply to: #4029982 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: What Running Technique Works for You? AdventureBear - 2012-02-04 10:19 PM Factors affecting running economy in trained distance runners. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15233599 ... A number of physiological and biomechanical factors appear to influence RE in highly trained or elite runners. These include metabolic adaptations within the muscle such as increased mitochondria and oxidative enzymes, the ability of the muscles to store and release elastic energy by increasing the stiffness of the muscles, and more efficient mechanics leading to less energy wasted on braking forces and excessive vertical oscillation. Interventions to improve RE are constantly sought after by athletes, coaches and sport scientists. ... This, combined with the abstract above, leads one to wonder what Pose actually teaches? It proposes less braking force and less vertical oscillation...which in this review are stated to improve running economy... Things that make you go Hmmm |
| 2012-02-05 9:47 AM in reply to: #4029992 |
Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: What Running Technique Works for You? AdventureBear - 2012-02-05 12:40 AM AdventureBear - 2012-02-04 10:19 PM Factors affecting running economy in trained distance runners. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15233599 This, combined with the abstract above, leads one to wonder what Pose actually teaches? It proposes less braking force and less vertical oscillation...which in this review are stated to improve running economy... Things that make you go Hmmm... A number of physiological and biomechanical factors appear to influence RE in highly trained or elite runners. These include metabolic adaptations within the muscle such as increased mitochondria and oxidative enzymes, the ability of the muscles to store and release elastic energy by increasing the stiffness of the muscles, and more efficient mechanics leading to less energy wasted on braking forces and excessive vertical oscillation. Interventions to improve RE are constantly sought after by athletes, coaches and sport scientists. ... I'll probably get flamed for this, but IMHO following the 'pose' method is more likely to do more harm than good, even setting aside the (very real) danger of injury, especially to calves and Achilles tendons. When I've looked at some of their 'before and after' video, I've often found myself thinking that the 'before' is probably better... (And the analysis of the 'before' almost always incorrectly equates heel striking with overstriding.) Yes, there is some focus on eliminating braking forces and reducing vertical oscillation, and yes these are generally good things to do, but the method achieves those things in a way that kills speed and probably economy. The most notable is an artificially shortened stride, but I also often see 'pose' runners doing weird things with the recovery part of the stride, with an exaggerated flexion at the knee so that while they are running 9:00/mile, the recovery part of the stride looks more appropriate to 6:00/mile. Add to that a shortened stride and it almost looks like they are riding a bicycle sometimes. OK, I've probably already upset the faithful, so I won't go on to say what I really think... |
| 2012-02-05 10:05 AM in reply to: #4028098 |
Member 448 Clemson, SC | Subject: RE: What Running Technique Works for You? When it comes to detecting and eliminating excess braking forces, I've found that minimal footwear out on some sandy or leaf covered trails provides immediate feedback. You'll feel yourself skidding on the strike and be able to correct yourself pretty intuitively. I never noticed that with traditional shoes because the padding doesn't allow your to feel what is going on. |
| 2012-02-05 10:17 AM in reply to: #4028098 |
Master 1460 Burlington, Vermont | Subject: RE: What Running Technique Works for You? You'll get no flame from me, Experior. And I'd still like to hear from the OP about how your current form and foot strike would be defined ... and why you want to change it. I'm really not trying to start something ... just looking for a more complete conversation on the matter. |
| 2012-02-05 10:33 AM in reply to: #4030233 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: What Running Technique Works for You? Experior - 2012-02-05 8:47 AM The most notable is an artificially shortened stride, but I also often see 'pose' runners doing weird things with the recovery part of the stride, with an exaggerated flexion at the knee so that while they are running 9:00/mile, the recovery part of the stride looks more appropriate to 6:00/mile. Add to that a shortened stride and it almost looks like they are riding a bicycle sometimes. OK, I've probably already upset the faithful, so I won't go on to say what I really think... I'd agree with this. In sprinters that high knee recovery helps keep the lever short and speed up the next foot strike (increasing frequency while also lengthing stride). It comes partly from thinking about it, but it also comes partly from teh stored energy in the posterior leg muscles...the elastic recoil in the calf/achilles for example at full extension. At a 9 min mile that energy is much less than at a 6 minute mile or 100 m sprint! |
| 2012-02-06 7:24 AM in reply to: #4028098 |
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