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2012-02-09 9:49 AM |
Veteran 253 Omaha, NE | Subject: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions Looking to get some swim questions answered, as I'm really new to swimming as a sport. Thanks for your help, and sorry if it's too long!! 1.) How do I figure swim times, and how often should I check this as a measure of my improvement? Right now, I don't time individual 100's, 200's, etc, I just time my entire time in the water, breaks, moving the rope, etc included. I figure that when I swim in a race, I won't be taking breaks, so it's better just to include it all. My times seem really slow, right now I'm ok with that, but just curious as to how everyone else times their distance? Oh, and I know about the big clock, but the one time I tried using it, I was so focused on proper form and counting laps that it was hard to keep track of what time I started, without having to start at the top and take longer breaks than I wanted! 2.) Are you supposed to stretch after swimming? I never do, except for about 2 minutes in the water after I'm done swimming. 3.) When I speed up, breathe on my non-dominant side, or bilateral breathe, I tend to swallow water. Is there an easy way to fix this? 4.) I currently swim 3x a week, but thinking I should swim more, is it better to add a little distance each day, or add another day, or both? A little background...no formal swim training, maybe some as a kid, don't remember. I've done two sprints, and will admit that I swam freestyle with my head above the water the entire time. In Jan, started swimming "for real" with my head in the water, so I'm proud of the progress I've made so far. Now that I have increased my endurance in the pool, I'm going to do some private lessons, to work on form and weaknesses. Oh, and please don't tell me I'm not really swimming unless I do flip turns, yet. ---Ali |
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2012-02-09 10:02 AM in reply to: #4037829 |
Veteran 222 | Subject: RE: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions Uh oh... You said flip turns... I find 3x a week to be plenty of pool time for me. It allows me plenty of time for improvement but you will find some fast folks swim less, and slower folks swimming more. Too much more time in the pool takes away from run and bike time in my schedule. I aim now for 2000-2500 per session. Do avoid swallowing water is simple. Don't breathe when your mouth is under water :-) you just need to generate the muscle memory in your recovery stroke, rotation and timing to avoid that. |
2012-02-09 10:05 AM in reply to: #4037829 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions First, congrats on putting your head down! That's half the battle well done on all the work you've put in. As far as times/timing, it's a good idea to know what kind of a pace you can hold over the course of a workout. In other words, even if it's very difficult, could you hold the same time for a 100 toward the end of your workout as the beginning? Other than that, at this point, I really wouldn't worry too much about timing each part, the whole vs. the parts, etc. ... just swim. A lot. And it sounds like you're already doing workouts that are broken up into intervals, which is good. So just keep an eye on some of the repeats throughout your workouts to see whether you're falling off pace quite a bit or not. Stretching is a very individual thing. There is no "supposed to." Do it after if you like it and it seems to help. Don't if not. If it's logistically possible, better to add a fourth swim. You can go far and do a lot with three swims, but you're more likely to get more swim volume in if you add a fourth, and as a newcomer, you'll probably be able to hold and push your form better with four slightly shorter workouts than three longer ones. Also, for the long term, you'll plateau pretty quickly on three (maintenance) but probably be able to continuously improve on four. You'll figure out how much you can handle adding to the four, how often, and if you want more help structuring the workouts, you know to come back here and ask As for swallowing water--definitely something going on with your form. I'd pay real good attention in your swimming lessons (when are they starting) and ask the instructor about this. |
2012-02-09 10:37 AM in reply to: #4037829 |
Veteran 253 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions Thanks for the responses so far!! I should clarify, that I swallow water when I'm talking a breath (when my head is out of the water), not when I'm breathing out underwater. --Ali |
2012-02-09 10:40 AM in reply to: #4037829 |
Master 1460 Burlington, Vermont | Subject: RE: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions After 4.5 months of swimming from pretty much no formal background, I no longer swallow (all that much) water when I breathe on my dominant side. I can't recall when it stopped happening, but I noticed the improvement a few weeks ago. It still happens on my weak side, but I've only recently started paying more deliberate attention to my bilateral breathing. I just tell myself that it'll improve just like my dominant side did. I think the muscle memory mentioned above is a great point. Eventually, your body knows it doesn't like that and the timing just works itself out.
ETA: I don't log a time/100 in the log. I put down total yardage covered through all sets and drills and note the time (usually 60 minutes, sometimes 65). I leave the pace blank. Edited by BernardDogs 2012-02-09 10:43 AM |
2012-02-09 11:01 AM in reply to: #4037829 |
Extreme Veteran 640 | Subject: RE: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions just subbing to thread as I am in the same boat as you. started in earnest 3.5 weeks ago so I'm struggling with the same issues as you are. i can say that i'm seeing improvement at my 3x week schedule. i'm lucky that i have a garmin 910xt to help with the data logging so i don't have to worry about times. |
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2012-02-09 11:22 AM in reply to: #4037829 |
San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions IMO, swimming is more about being comfortable in the water, especially when it comes to breathing. I am more of a 1-sided breather but if necessary I can breath on the other side. I had the same issue of sucking in water when I tried to breath on the non-dominant side. I fixed it by trying to exhale more forcefully as my head exits the water and dipping my chin down towards my armpit. It works for me but maybe is not for everyone. As for timing your swims, get a cheap wristwatch that has a stopwatch feature at Target or Wal-Mart. I use a Timex Ironman watch that cost me a whopping $20. Start the timer at the beginning of the swim and stop it at the end. If you want to get fancy you can even use the lap timer and stop it everytime you stop for a breather. Its much easier than the "big clock" at the end of the pool. Use that when you start working on intervals. Best of luck! It only gets easier! |
2012-02-09 11:24 AM in reply to: #4037829 |
Regular 549 | Subject: RE: Swim times, stretching, and other silly newbie swim questions I started swimming for my first sprint two weeks ago. I am up to 700m, swimming 100's continuously with a break between each 100.. I keep track of my total time in the water (breaks and all) like you are doing. I think the same way.....its all cumulative. I think as long as you are consistent with how you log times to track progress. |
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