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2006-05-16 3:28 PM


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Subject: couple questions from newbie.
hi,
I am just about to start training for my first tri.
the thing is money-wise I cant really get a bike right now, but I need to start cause its ALL I can think about.
Are the bikes at the gym at all useful or are they counter-productive...meaning the recumbant and the upright?
Also, I dont really understand the jargon used for swimming programs.
I understand things like 4x 50' or 200's, but all the rest of it is chinese to me.
can somebody please explain it to me...like what are ladders, do you need to do anything besides free-style. I just dont want to wing it, id like to have a plan and do it properly.
thanks for any help,
rob


2006-05-16 3:55 PM
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Subject: RE: couple questions from newbie.
Before I got my trainer this spring, I used the uprights at the gym a lot over the winter - I can't speak for anyone else, but it certainly did not seem to hurt my training by any means and I didn't have any problems switching back over to my regular bike when I got the trainer for it and also out on the road.
2006-05-16 4:21 PM
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Subject: RE: couple questions from newbie.
I did a lot of spin classes over the winter as, basically, my only bike training. Though it's not the same as "real" riding, it's better than not riding. And I think I came into this season a lot stronger for it.
2006-05-16 5:24 PM
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Rob, 

For a newbie best thing is to just get in the time and build your volume, so yes, if you don't have a bike, a stationary will be just fine until you do. 

One tip for the swim, make sure you can float on your back easily, so that you can take a break if you need to.  If you want to fork out the cash, I recommed getting the Total Immersion book and DVD.  It helped me out a lot.

Ladders are like this 1x50 1x100 1x150 1x200 1x150 1x100 1x50...  Again, just get in the time and you'll do fine.  I only freestyle, but others like to do a bit of everything, which isn't a bad idea.

 Good luck,

 Avshin

2006-05-16 5:24 PM
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Welcome,

You're going to love triathlon. I'm still really new at this myself, but here's my 2 cents. I trained on a stationary bike over the winter, then wrecked my bike a month and a half ago and just got a new bike a week ago or so. I trained on the stationary bike during my time without a bike as well. I think that it's better than not riding, although there is a definite difference between the stationary and getting out on the road. I recommend asking all of your questions on this site, there's a lot of people here that have been around for quite a while and know a lot. Also, I bought and read Triathlete Magazines Complete Triathlon Book. You can find it in many large book stores and on Amazon.com. I found that very helpful in preparing to train and race my first biathlon and then triathlon. Good luck! Happy triing.

Drew

2006-05-16 10:43 PM
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Subject: RE: couple questions from newbie.

Biking on a stationary bike is not quite the same - but at least you're doing about the same motion.  I'd do the upright, not the recumbent (more in the bike position)

Specify what your issues are with the swimming terms - there'll be at least one person who's heard it before.

A ladder is simply going up in yardage and then going back down.

So, 50,100,150,200,150,100,50 - you may have a certain rest between each set, or x50 could be kick and the x00 could be swim, etc. etc. There are many options.

Or say, 100,200,400,600,400,200,100.

The main idea is do it in sets, but when you are doing say the 200 that is a continuous swim, no stopping.



2006-05-16 11:52 PM
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Subject: RE: couple questions from newbie.
I did 90% of my bike training for my first triathlon on an upright stationary bike at the gym. Like you, I didn't have a bike and when I did get one, I didn't feel comfortable riding in traffic, so I still mainly used the statonary at the gym.

I did fine and actually finished around mid pack overall for the bike leg.
2006-05-17 8:11 AM
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Subject: RE: couple questions from newbie.
wow..you guys are very helpful.
I am really intersted in builiding up a base first.
another question though on the swim, when you say just kick..is it simply what it says..am I not using arms, again I feel kinda ignorant asking the question, but I never really swam in this type of way.
thanks for all the help.
rob
2006-05-17 9:35 AM
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tri-n-06 - 2006-05-17 7:11 AM

another question though on the swim, when you say just kick..is it simply what it says..am I not using arms, again I feel kinda ignorant asking the question


Yup, at least, when I say kick, I mean kick. With a kickboard of course. Don't feel ignorant, there's still plenty that all of us are learning about tris. Maybe not about the jargon, but at least about ourselves. Keep on firing questions if you have them.

2006-05-17 9:48 AM
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If you don't have a bike, then the stationary bike in the gym will work to help you build endurance, and strength. There is a difference between the upright and the recumbant in what muscles it is focusing on, so I would try to use the upright as it will translate more to the type of riding you will be doing when you get your bike.
2006-05-17 10:09 AM
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Subject: RE: couple questions from newbie.
You can also do the kick sets without a kickboard. I like to do just the kicking portions of the backstroke, freestyle, breaststroke, and butterfly. I'll do 25 or 50 yards of each as part of my warmup. They're also good between bigger swim sets.

I don't think you asked, but just in case, here is some other swim jargon you might see:
4x100 on 2:00 means to start your 100 on every interval of two minutes
4x100 with 10" means take a ten second break in between each 100.

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2006-05-17 10:30 AM
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Subject: RE: couple questions from newbie.
Not going to re-state what's already been said. Just WELCOME. Let us know when you are doing your first tri and how you did. This sight is excellent and people are always willing to help.
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