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2012-03-23 3:20 PM

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Subject: metronome and training?

 I don't know if this has been asked, I tried the search function but got bupkis.

I recently downloaded a metronome app for my zune(sorry ifolks), and have been running with it, I started at 80 BPM for every strike of my right foot, and that seemed too slow, so I wnet to 82, then 84 and was comfortable.  I gave it a whirl on 90, the other day, and wow!  It feels like my quads expolded, two days after, I did get a 2 mile pool session in. 

I am currious who uses a metrenome when biking or running, and at what level doy you like to train?(  I am targeting 90's run and bike.)

And if you do use a metronome, what would you adjust(from you current level), 1 or two BPM at a time?

Thanks,

Andrew



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2012-03-23 3:31 PM
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2012-03-23 4:11 PM
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Subject: RE: metronome and training?

I tried using a metronome app once, just to see what kind of tempo I was hitting.  I can't say that it was that enlightening.  It was more of a "golly, gee.  I guess my cadence IS over 180".  But then, I've got really stubby legs, so a high cadence is par for the course.

But I digress.

If you're concerned with maintaning a specific cadence, I'd recommend other apps, such as Cadence.fm.  You input your desired cadence, and the app will then play songs with the same beat.  It's kinda cool.  That said, I don't get too whipped up over maintaining a certain turnover.

On the bike, a normal cruising tempo for me is around 92-95rpm.  I usually just lock in my RPE and shift when that cadence either gets too easy or too difficult to maintain.  After a while, I can just go by feel and be fairly spot on.

 

2012-03-23 5:26 PM
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Another alternative is Podrunner - mixes of electronic music with a specific cadence for each session.  Each is about an hour long.  http://www.djsteveboy.com/podrunner.html

They're mp3 files, so you can save them to your computer and add them to your Zune. 

2012-03-24 7:51 AM
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The only experience I have with a metronome is during the last 3 races I was in(2 irondistances and 1 HIM) and there was a 73 year old lady wearing one on the run. I could hear it a mile away as she was sneaking up on me and then at least 15 min later as she passed me. I hated every second of that run cause I KNEW she was coming, dang it, and I KNEW I could never catch her. Drove me nuts....really!
2012-03-24 10:06 AM
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Subject: RE: metronome and training?

Thanks for the input, I would liek to find a water proof one, but I think just pacing my strokes while in the pool helps.  I am more concerned about the run and bike, as I fear come race that I will run out of gas at T2.



2012-03-25 1:36 AM
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I have a Finis Tempo Trainer. I used it a couple times running (clipping it to the back of my cap), found out that my cadence at my comfortable pace (5:45min/km) is 165. Tried to use it to increase my cadence to 180 but gave up after a couple of tries, the beeps annoy me.

Btw, it displays beats (or strokes) per second, so you will have to convert to per minute rate, e.g. .33 bps = 180 bpm. I printed a table I created on MS Excel.

2012-03-25 5:05 PM
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I have a playlist of 180bpm music and just run to it.

I'm pretty sure a metronome would drive me nutso.

2012-03-25 8:54 PM
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For what it's worth...I have my cross country teams practice with a metronome at 180bpm several times early in the season...and then again late in the season.  180 is the magic number...not matter what your pace.
2012-03-26 7:06 AM
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runninirish - 2012-03-25 9:54 PM

For what it's worth...I have my cross country teams practice with a metronome at 180bpm several times early in the season...and then again late in the season.  180 is the magic number...not matter what your pace.


Magic how? And why 180?

To the OP... Run what you feel is comfortable. As you run more, you will develop the stride rate and length that works for you.
2012-03-26 7:19 AM
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180 is a target because it translates to faster turnover and shorter stride length. Both things that benefit runners and keep you injury free. Shorter stride length should equate to your fore foot landing under your weight and not in front of your weight. You foot landing in front of your center of mass and your weight impact would in effect be like applying brakes while you are running. (the feel of this is magnified if you run down hill). This can not only slow you down but also damage knees and hips.

Subsequent to you training your cadence/turnover to be closer to 90 (right foot strikes for example), when you do elongate your stride in a sprint finish, for example, you will be elongating a faster turnover and covering more ground. This is due to the neuro-muscular benefits of the higher cadence.

I regularly look at my watch and then count right foot strikes up to 15 and look back to the watch to see that it is 10 seconds later.

Good luck. 



2012-03-26 7:19 AM
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Subject: RE: metronome and training?
For big clydes like me, walking is comfortable.
For me using cadence has been really helpful in shortening my stride and increasing my pace. I have noticed less stress on my knees and hips because I'm running with better form.
I agree with ditching the metronome and finding music that matches your desired cadence.
2012-03-26 8:07 AM
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